Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

maximus15

connolly was always going to get off after the keane incident, the only farce bout it is why not let him off after the first appeal instead draggin it out til this late!!

I just hope this hasn't added more fuel and today wil be another battle full of tusslin and off the ball muck!
Both teams just need to let the football do the talking and the winner deserve their place in the final and not another aftermath of pure controversy where a ref decision has won the game instead of a moment of brilliance!!

Im pretty sur i will be wrong bout the football winnin out!!

rebel girl 15

DRP statement

“The Panel’s decision related to lack of fair procedure afforded to Mr. Connolly at an early stage in the GAA’s internal disciplinary process which unfairly hindered the preparations for, and presentation of, his defence. Mr Connolly was thus free to play in the replay of the above match on 5 September.

So long story short, he got off on a technicality. Two weeks until the full report is on the website, but it basically says that the CCCC or CHC didn't do something correctly and that is the reason he got off

CurryFlavoured

Ref needs to put a foot down early. Not giving out yellows for the sake of it but stuff like off the ball grappling we saw so much of last week - yellow each. None of that crap about being lenient early in the game. No suspensions in the dirtiest game of the year where 3-4 could've been banned is a joke.

Dublin need to be far far more disciplined.

Kavrocks

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

For those of you in the know about appeal hearings , would Connolly have to attend each of those hearings the last few nights? Can't think of a worse way to prepare for today's match.

I'm fairly certain the player has to attend. At least they have to attend the CHC, the DRA could be different as it is independent of the GAA and is more like a courtroom. The Dublin - Armagh appeal was put back a week because Liam Rushe's appeal was also to be heard the same night but he was away on holidays and couldn't attend.

rebel girl 15

maximus15 wrote: »

connolly was always going to get off after the keane incident, the only farce bout it is why not let him off after the first appeal battle full of tusslin and off the ball muck

It never ceases to amaze me about people who have no clue about the disputes procedure yet come out with comments like above that Connolly was always going to get of because of Keane. Many posts like this across facebook and other media. The situations are two completely different cases yet people are blinded by something.

Keane did not get off, the red card was downgraded to a yellow card by the CHC, the first appeals committee leaving him free to play the next game.Big difference to Connolly who looks like he has his case struck out on a technicality I.e. they are not saying he shouldn't have gotten red for his actions after the CHC and the CAC both upheld the ban.

The farce is in three committees correctly suspending a player following a red card and it to be thrown out on a technicality.

rebel girl 15

Kavrocks wrote: »

I'm fairly certain the player has to attend. The Dublin - Armagh appeal was put back a week because Liam Rushe's appeal was also to be heard the same night but he was away on holidays and couldn't attend.

Depends on what stage it is

Kavrocks

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Depends on what stage it is

Yeah I just came back to edit my post. Laptop battery had died before I had time to complete it. As I mentioned in the edit. I am not sure how it works with the DRA as it is separate to the GAA and takes a different approach to the CHC and CAC, which he should have attended.

Dyr

He'll be playing with the eyes hanging out of his head after those late nights

Eddie will probably give him the line in the first 15 minutes now :pac:

Dyr

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

DRP statement



So long story short, he got off on a technicality. Two weeks until the full report is on the website, but it basically says that the CCCC or CHC didn't do something correctly and that is the reason he got off

In any appeals process, technically innocent is the best sort of innocent.

CurryFlavoured

Do we trust Connolly to keep his cool v Keegan? Those 2 clearly don't get on and Dermo is much more likely to lose his ****. Just play football that's all I ask.

tritium

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me about people who have no clue about the disputes procedure yet come out with comments like above that Connolly was always going to get of because of Keane. Many posts like this across facebook and other media. The situations are two completely different cases yet people are blinded by something.

Keane did not get off, the red card was downgraded to a yellow card by the CHC, the first appeals committee leaving him free to play the next game.Big difference to Connolly who looks like he has his case struck out on a technicality I.e. they are not saying he shouldn't have gotten red for his actions after the CHC and the CAC both upheld the ban.

The farce is in three committees correctly suspending a player following a red card and it to be thrown out on a technicality.

Maybe, but given the (albeit brief) explanation given so far it appears that the technicality prevented him from having a fair shot at his appeal. If that's the case then someone dripped the ball and hard to to throw it out

(Though the cynic in me thinks its a bit convenient)

In my mind the Keane situation is actually more farcical and convenient. The idea of downgrade to yellow and pretend there was still some kind if censure frankly stinks

Paranoid Mandroid

Wow the carry on is laughable around here. Connolly is playing, silly getting off but thats how it is. 15 v 15 let's go can't wait

CurryFlavoured

I'd probably drop Rock now that Connollys available.

ThunbergsAreGo

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

I'd probably drop Rock now that Connollys available.

Could be a game laden with frees if the referee clamps down

Bret Hart

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Do we trust Connolly to keep his cool v Keegan? Those 2 clearly don't get on and Dermo is much more likely to lose his ****. Just play football that's all I ask.

Dermo will take Keegan to the cleaners today. He'll be disheartened to hear that all his hard work of last week on Connolly all came to nothing and he'll have no clue now what to do.

Slattsy

This ref is very whistle happy lads. I'd want Rock on. Unfortunately it means COC has a purpose other than running round like a headless chicken and chatting in officials ears all game.

CurryFlavoured

Bret Hart wrote: »

Dermo will take Keegan to the cleaners today. He'll be disheartened to hear that all his hard work of last week on Connolly all came to nothing and he'll have no clue now what to do.

That's wishful thinking. Dermo's yet to have a big performance against Keegan who IMO is one of the best footballers in the country. It'll be very tense between the 2 I just hope that Connollys interested in football and not fighting.

Hammer Archer

Right, any more crap from either side will see at least a ban til after the weekend. It's Saturday morning and I'm sick of warnings being ignored so just think before you post or you're gone.
Report any offending posts. Reacting to posts with personal abuse will also earn you a ban.

Kavrocks

So who is going in early today to see Aslan before the game? I'd rather see the ladies game beforehand, it should be a good game too.

Bret Hart

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

That's wishful thinking. Dermo's yet to have a big performance against Keegan who IMO is one of the best footballers in the country. It'll be very tense between the 2 I just hope that Connollys interested in football and not fighting.

He'll not get dragged down to Keegan's level again this week,I'm sure of that. We've too see yet if he'll start and if not,what a sub we've got too bring on if the game is going against us.

not yet

Logic dictates that Mayo will bottle it on more time, Dublin by 3-5.

Paulzx

As a GAA fan I hope today we see a real game of football that keeps us on the edge of our seats with end to end action and stunning scoring...........not foul play, off the ball ****e and macho posturing.


As a Dublin fan I hope to see a Blues win and just as importantly an end to the crap the Dublin players got up to last week. Their lack of discilpine and stupid behaviour was indicative of how a team that is seriously inferior skill wise to their opposition behaves. It is baffling when you consider the skill levels and abilities of the Dublin team that they should behave this way. They have no deficit to make up so why lower ourselves and behave like this?

This game could either be the game of the year or a serious damp squib. Hopefully it will match the Dubs V Kerry semi in 2013

Ace2007

It's like most things associated with the GAA, they try to cut corners and think they will get away with it - when independent committee get involved and look at how the GAA went about their business - they saw that it wasnt being done right - hence he got off on a technicality.

Whether you think its right or wrong - Connolly deserved a fair and balanced hearing by the books - which obv didn't occur.

Blame those in the CRC and CHC

but1er

Gerrup!!!

happyoutscan

If Connolly doesn't start - and I don't think he will - then he's some sub to bring on whether you're up or down. If he can keep his head he'll be a boost.

CurryFlavoured

happyoutscan wrote: »

If Connolly doesn't start - and I don't think he will - then he's some sub to bring on whether you're up or down. If he can keep his head he'll be a boost.

I never considered it but seeing its so late you're probably right. Can you imagine the roar (/boos) if he comes off the bench?

Paulzx

happyoutscan wrote: »

If Connolly doesn't start - and I don't think he will - then he's some sub to bring on whether you're up or down. If he can keep his head he'll be a boost.

I'd be very surprised if he didn't start

Brusna

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Do we trust Connolly to keep his cool v Keegan? Those 2 clearly don't get on and Dermo is much more likely to lose his ****. Just play football that's all I ask.

If both teams do that there will be one hell of a show today, can't wait.

Paulzx

If Connolly doesn't keep his cool today after all thats gone on this he's a cabbage. I don't care what gets thrown at him by Mayo he needs to prove today that he has a functioning brain cell and keep his head.

He knows he's going to be under the microscopic from the very start. Play football, ignore the crap and walk away.

If he gets involved today I'm washing my hands off him

Ace2007

Paulzx wrote: »

If he gets involved today I'm washing my hands off him

One problem with that and we've seen it countless times before - if any Mayo played Drags him to the ground off the ball - more than likely referee will just give both yellows- rice and repeat with different mayo lad and who knows what will happen

Paulzx

Ace2007 wrote: »

One problem with that and we've seen it countless times before - if any Mayo played Drags him to the ground off the ball - more than likely referee will just give both yellows- rice and repeat with different mayo lad and who knows what will happen

That's outside of his control. Throwing a dig when he's dragged to the ground is inside his control. He really needs to be cute today

Ace2007

Paulzx wrote: »

That's outside of his control. Throwing a dig when he's dragged to the ground is inside his control. He really needs to be cute today

I know yea but let's just say Mayo try to above in first 10 mins and referee gives 2 yellows that means he has to avoid the rest of the game with out doing anything that deserves a yellow.

Referee has to make some sort of statement earlier otherwise we'll get the same again today as last sunday

CurryFlavoured

Paulzx wrote: »

If Connolly doesn't keep his cool today after all thats gone on this he's a cabbage. I don't care what gets thrown at him by Mayo he needs to prove today that he has a functioning brain cell and keep his head.

He knows he's going to be under the microscopic from the very start. Play football, ignore the crap and walk away.

If he gets involved today I'm washing my hands off him

Problem is we've been here many times before. He might keep his cool today given how lucky he is to be playing but he's bound to let us down again at some stage.

Ace2007

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Problem is we've been here many times before. He might keep his cool today given how lucky he is to be playing but he's bound to let us down again at some stage.

Given how good he is - it's worth the risk

Ger Brennan was another hot head but we weren't reliant on him so where able to survive without

Paulzx

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Problem is we've been here many times before. He might keep his cool today given how lucky he is to be playing but he's bound to let us down again at some stage.

I know. I absolutely love him as a player for his ability and the way he can play but he drives me insane with the unpredicability of his temprament. To be fair to him he's kept his nose clean for the last few years and had copped on.

Paulzx

Ace2007 wrote: »

Given how good he is - it's worth the risk

Ger Brennan was another hot head but we weren't reliant on him so where able to survive without

and Ger Brennan couldn't score points with left or right foot from hand or the ground:D

CurryFlavoured

I think he'll always have a good chance of doing something silly in a big tense game, and this might be the most intense he'll ever play given the buildup. If he crosses the border at all he'll get the line, that's why it might not be the worst thing to bring him off the bench. I'd love to see Connolly play well and show no zero response to being wound up but I might be dreaming.

Slattsy

Hopefully he gets some protection from the ref and linesman this time around.

rebel girl 15

Ace2007 wrote: »

It's like most things associated with the GAA, they try to cut corners and think they will get away with it - when independent committee get involved and look at how the GAA went about their business - they saw that it wasnt being done right - hence he got off on a technicality.

Whether you think its right or wrong - Connolly deserved a fair and balanced hearing by the books - which obv didn't occur.

Blame those in the CRC and CHC

You do realise that both the heads of the CAC and CHC are practising lawyers and also former secretaries of the DRP? Its not they are lads just brought in off the street to adjudicate on the matter. Problem is that the GAA rule book isn't good enough, and too often players get off on technicalities

Slattsy

Tech na cal ity - my favourite sequence of 4 words in the English language.

Godge

Slattsy wrote: »

Hopefully he gets some protection from the ref and linesman this time around.

100% agree.

How he got a red card after being dragged to the ground and put in a headlock is beyond me.

If they changed the rule to a red for serious foul play, then Keegan would have got the line as he deserved.

Ace2007

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

You do realise that both the heads of the CAC and CHC are practising lawyers and also former secretaries of the DRP? Its not they are lads just brought in off the street to adjudicate on the matter. Problem is that the GAA rule book isn't good enough, and too often players get off on technicalities

No I didn't actually, but the DPA are independent body and are probably not even looking at what Connolly did or didn't do. They are looking at the process of the CHC and CRC.

People get off on technical reasons everyday of the week - it's not right but that's just the way it is

Mountainlad

Ace2007 wrote: »

No I didn't actually, but the DPA are independent body and are probably not even looking at what Connolly did or didn't do. They are looking at the process of the CHC and CRC.

People get off on technical reasons everyday of the week - it's not right but that's just the way it is

You can't defend the indefensible by saying that's just the way it is. If that was the common mindset what a terrible, terrible world we would live in.

Wacker The Attacker

Slattsy wrote: »

Tech na cal ity - my favourite sequence of 4 words in the English language.

It's a sequence of 4 syllables.

I hate to point out another technicality

Wacker The Attacker

The dream is for Dublin to be 7 points ahead with 10 minutes to go and to kep playing their game this time around. We'll win by 10 instead of drawing.

Alternatively Diarmuid Connolly doing a repeat of Stephen Cluxtons free in the 2011 all ireland final will be equally annoying for the culchie folk.

Ace2007

Mountainlad wrote: »

You can't defend the indefensible by saying that's just the way it is. If that was the common mindset what a terrible, terrible world we would live in.

It is the world we live in - bit OT, but how many times have we seen something caught with x amount of drugs, but because the warrant was out of date, they got off, or folk get off drink driving cause of a technicality?

I'm not saying it's right, but why do the Powers of be not follow procedures and ensure they don't leave themselves open for a successful appeal. More than likely the guys where too tired, because they chose to have the appeal so late, and maybe have missed something or just didn't something wrong.

But why not just play the game fairly, our best 15 against your best 15, and play football - don't engaged in off the ball fights or dragging guys down - Had the Mayo lad just concentrated on football, none of this would have happened.

Mountainlad

Ace2007 wrote: »

It is the world we live in - bit OT, but how many times have we seen something caught with x amount of drugs, but because the warrant was out of date, they got off, or folk get off drink driving cause of a technicality?

I'm not saying it's right, but why do the Powers of be not follow procedures and ensure they don't leave themselves open for a successful appeal. More than likely the guys where too tired, because they chose to have the appeal so late, and maybe have missed something or just didn't something wrong.

But why not just play the game fairly, our best 15 against your best 15, and play football - don't engaged in off the ball fights or dragging guys down - Had the Mayo lad just concentrated on football, none of this would have happened.

Your bias is just unbelievable. I'll say no more

CurryFlavoured

3.5 hrs to the game, no team announced! Is this a first?

I know the announced team means hack but its still weird.

Ace2007

Mountainlad wrote: »

Your bias is just unbelievable. I'll say no more

Maybe you have the blinkers on?
Do you not agree that the Mayo Lad was in the wrong initially and had he concentrated on the ball, that none of this would have happened. Let's see if your man enough to admit that?

corny

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

3.5 hrs to the game, no team announced! Is this a first?

I know the announced team means hack but its still weird.

In for a penny, in for a pound. They probably won't name a team.