Referee Mark Clattenburg investigated for abusive language

CSF

keeponhurling wrote: »

Do you really think refs are told "If a player gives you abuse you must take it - do NOT give them a booking or send them off" ?

Although I do admit that at times it might appear that way

Not in those words, but referees who are seen to book more than others for dissent would be considered less able to control a game without using cards than other refs. They all referee the same ub the Prem because it's what is expected of them.

Unearthly

Ridiculous thing to report him over. Glad the premier league dismissed it.

Southampton win the 2014 precious award already

theoneeyedman

keeponhurling wrote: »

Do you really think refs are told "If a player gives you abuse you must take it - do NOT give them a booking or send them off" ?

Although I do admit that at times it might appear that way

It certainly appears that way......see the likes of Rooney (and he is not alone, I'm just using him as an example) fcuking and blinding at referees with impunity. It seems rich for players to complain when they get the slightest bit of cheek back in their direction. It's not professional on clattenburgs part, but Southampton need to man the **** up and quit embarrassing themselves with complaints like this.

Richard Hillman

If somebody said to Howard Webb "You've become very different now that you've reffed the World Cup final". Would Howard Webb make a complaint or book the player? Not a hope.

It is like a case of a student giving a teacher grief but when the teacher decided to give something innocous back, the student runs home to the parents and they are at the principals office the next day.



PS: I agree with micing the refs up to TV. I dont have a clue why they wont do it. I think they are still afraid of the repeat of the David Elleray thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnQ16KFDoA4

It is interesting from the video that it was just the Arsenal players giving the abuse and they were the ones that didnt know the mic was on the ref. The Milwall players didnt seem to say anything. The same with the end of the video when George Graham shut his mouth when he remembered about the mics and the camera.

Players and clubs are very concious about their public images nowadays. I feel you would rarely see refs being abused if the refs were mic'ed up. I think that would also filter down to lower level football and most importantly junior football thus increasing the amount of people willing to take up refereeing.

Richard Hillman

#ThingsThatUpsetAdamLellana is trending on Twitter :pac:

Too Tough To Die

Richard Hillman wrote: »

If somebody said to Howard Webb "You've become very different now that you've reffed the World Cup final". Would Howard Webb make a complaint or book the player? Not a hope.

It is like a case of a student giving a teacher grief but when the teacher decided to give something innocous back, the student runs home to the parents and they are at the principals office the next day.



PS: I agree with micing the refs up to TV. I dont have a clue why they wont do it. I think they are still afraid of the repeat of the David Elleray thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnQ16KFDoA4

It is interesting from the video that it was just the Arsenal players giving the abuse and they were the ones that didnt know the mic was on the ref. The Milwall players didnt seem to say anything. The same with the end of the video when George Graham shut his mouth when he remembered about the mics and the camera.

Players and clubs are very concious about their public images nowadays. I feel you would rarely see refs being abused if the refs were mic'ed up. I think that would also filter down to lower level football and most importantly junior football thus increasing the amount of people willing to take up refereeing.

At first glance i thought you said mincing the refs up and thought of this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-3cuCEt9k8

brevity

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

At first glance i thought you said mincing the refs up and thought of this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-3cuCEt9k8

:pac:

Reekwind

bucketybuck wrote: »

Well you say that, but time and again we hear the complaint that referees are too stand-offish, that the best ref's are the ones that communicate and talk to the players.

I know I always preferred the ref's that actually spoke to me and acknowledged my existence, as opposed to the ones that just ignored you if you tried to ask them why something happened

A ref can be informal and approachable (although personally I don't like that at the professional level) without making snide personal remarks

abff

If I was a Southampton fan, I would be very very embarrassed by such a ridiculous complaint. Seriously??? Have you nothing better to do?

Professional Griefer

Can't blame them for standing up for their player, be it wrong or wrong.

abff

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Can't blame them for standing up for their player, be it wrong or wrong.

I think you can blame them if they end up making fools of themselves and of him.

Rascasse

abff wrote: »

If I was a Southampton fan, I would be very very embarrassed by such a ridiculous complaint. Seriously??? Have you nothing better to do?

As a Saints fan I can assure you it is extremely embarrassing to see this on the news. It is simply a problem with Cortese and the way he runs the club. Clattenburg joins the list of St Mary's persona non grata (over various periods) with Lawrie McMenemy, Le Tiss, the Daily Echo, the head of a supporters club and every sports photographer in the world.

He's brought us billionaire owners in the Liebherr family and success year after year, but he really needs to pick his battles. Nonsense like this could unsettle players and do the team no favours with refs in the future.

GavRedKing

According to the BBC Sport Twitter page, Clattenburg has being cleared over the incident.

LuckyLloyd

Step One: only Captains can speak to referees, approaching the ref unsolicited without the band is an automatic yellow card;
Step Two: refs now get mic'ed up;

Simple and uncontroversial changes that would have a huge positive effect.

Richard Hillman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Step One: only Captains can speak to referees, approaching the ref unsolicited without the band is an automatic yellow card;
Step Two: refs now get mic'ed up;

Simple and uncontroversial changes that would have a huge positive effect.

That's too much common sense for FIFA's liking.

Oranage2

It's this not getting blown out of proportion ,it was one incident!