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Celbridge, a nice place to live?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭vektarman


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Is the train within the Dublin area commuter belt?

    Yes Moonbeam, it's the last stop on the commuter belt on the South/West line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    cgarvey wrote: »
    In order:
    • It has a train station (with decent car park), that has a regular commuter service. No DART (yet, at least; some of the works have been completed), but there's still a regular service. There's a free feeder bus for most services to/from the village.
    • Doesn't need a bus terminus. There are plenty of sheltered bus stops, RTPI signs, and regular bus stops. The service is a reliable (in my experience) twice hourly service. Also cheap given that we're not paying the outer-suburban rate (just the over 13 stages rate).
    • Nitelink has never failed me. Great value for a fiver (and is direct, not the windy regular 67 route). Never any hassle on any I've got, either.
    • No swimming pool is probably the most legitimate argument you have. Although there are options nearby if you are committed. Plenty of towns of Celbridge's size don't have a pool, but it would be nice alright.
    • Cinema is a 20 minute bus journey away (Liffey Valley)
    • Plenty of recycling options (regular recycling bins plastered all over the village). If it's larger WEEE/oil/wood stuff you want, most towns and villages don't have such a facility.
    I think you're demanding more than is sustainable for a small town like Celbridge, and exaggerating the lack of public transport options.

    1. Hazelhaltch is not within walking distance of most of the town, hence it's called Hazelhatch and had Celbridge tacked on at a later date. Maynooth and Leixlip both have train stations that cover the majority of their populations.
    2. Not having a bus terminus means it bus times can be unpredictable as they have to travel from another town. Maynooth and Leixlip both have bus termini, so bus departures are predictable down to the minute.
    3. There are 1.5 and 2 hour gaps in the 67N schedule. No Nitelink between 12 midnight and 2am on nights when standard pub closing time is 12:30am. Leixlip has Nitelinks at 12, 1, 2, 3, and 4am. Indeed many people get the 1am to Leixlip and a cab from there to Celbridge or Maynooth.

    4,5 and 6 apply to Leixlip and Maynooth too. North Kildare is one of only 4 DED's in the country that doesn't have a swimming pool.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    n97 mini wrote: »
    1. Hazelhaltch is not within walking distance
    2. Not having a bus terminus means it bus times can be unpredictable
    3. There are 1.5 and 2 hour gaps in the 67N schedule.

    Well they can hardly move the village or the train station, can they?! That is why there's a free bus shuttle service (or a car park, if you want to drive, or a decent footpath/cyclepath). Not much more any one can do there.

    Terminus for 67 is 10 stops away in the next town over. In all my time getting the 67 (bar when there's road works on the r405/Maynooth road), the only unreliability is when the the outbound 67 is delayed (you know when you're waiting for your bus to town in Celbridge and you see the 67 pass towards Maynooth, you're in trouble!). Having said that RTPI makes that a moot point now. I don't see how the terminus would help any of that.

    I see what you mean on the Nitelink gap (and have actually been caught out by it more than once), but I can't think of the last time I was in city centre and left a pub at "standard" closing time (given that so few of them don't have extended licences). If there was demand for one every hour, I've no doubt the premium bus service would be available. Still, if you were to leave at the "standard" drinking up time, you've only an hour to wait. Queuing in Supermacs/Charlies/Subway beside the Nitelink can take the bulk of that away. So Nitelink isn't as frequent as other close by more-populated centres.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭RayCon


    n97 mini wrote: »
    No Nitelink between 12 midnight and 2am


    I got caught out by that recently ... :mad: - did it not used to be 12.30am / 2am / 3am ?

    Oh and as for Celbridge - moved there in 2000 - love the place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    RayCon wrote: »
    I got caught out by that recently ... :mad: - did it not used to be 12.30am / 2am / 3am ?

    Oh and as for Celbridge - moved there in 2000 - love the place.

    Celbridge and Maynooth are served by the same nitelink and I have got that 12:30 before. When did it change?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭kildarecommuter


    Celbridge is also served by Bus Eireann 120 route which is great use it all the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,886 ✭✭✭cgarvey


    RayCon wrote: »
    I got caught out by that recently ... :mad: - did it not used to be 12.30am / 2am / 3am ?

    Yup, but it's changed for a good few months now. All the Dublin Bus apps (the non-official ones) still have 12.30. So when you're trying to be good™, you can still get caught out!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Celbridge and Maynooth are served by the same nitelink and I have got that 12:30 before. When did it change?

    Prolly around the same time Leixlip lost its half hourly service and went hourly. 67n is now 12, 2, 3.30 and 4.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    ant25 wrote: »
    Thinking of moving to Celbridge and wondering about the area. Saw some old boards messages which say some bad thngs about but have spoken to people who say nothing but good things. Any honest ideas would be very welcome :)

    Isn't it all about what you are looking for and what your expectations are?

    I lived close to Ballyfermot before moving to Celbridge back in 2005.
    There is no comparison between the two places in my experience.
    I live in Castletown and it's wonderful. I have fantastic neighbours.
    I commute to work (Ballyfermot) by car via the motorway, there is no traffic problem. I can do the journey in 15/20 mins.
    Liffey Valley is a 15 minute ride away.
    If you do any form of exercise then the grounds of Castletown house are fantastic and right on my doorstep.
    I would not hesitate recommending Celbridge as a place to live.

    But, as has been said, if you move to Castletown, don't get a house near the Castletown woods.
    Teenagers spend most of their summer nights in there drinking and would keep you awake at night.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    The NUIM pool now has some public hours and there are numerous private pools around too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    The NUIM pool now has some public hours

    Is there a link anywhere to the times? I'm refusing to pay to join the Glenroyal as I consider it overpriced and they charge 12e to just use the pool if not a member.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh




  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Paranoid Mandroid



    cheers for that. Do you know what the length of the pool is? I didn't see it on your link. Cheers.

    I've been using the Clondalkin pool. Takes me less than 15 mins to drive to (hazelhatch). Not ideal but that's the best option unfortunately. The times really do suit if you have a kid, early mornings or late evenings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01



    Is it lanes?

    Ohh and many thanks for the link. Pity there wasn't even an hour once or twice during the week as well for the public.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    There are swimming lessons during the week that are open to the public.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    cheers for that. Do you know what the length of the pool is? I didn't see it on your link. Cheers.

    I've been using the Clondalkin pool. Takes me less than 15 mins to drive to (hazelhatch). Not ideal but that's the best option unfortunately. The times really do suit if you have a kid, early mornings or late evenings.

    18M pool from what I recall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    No idea about length, or lanes - only googled it when Moonbeam mentioned it. Not entirely sure where on the old campus it is. Am going to go and have a look this weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    No idea about length, or lanes - only googled it when Moonbeam mentioned it. Not entirely sure where on the old campus it is. Am going to go and have a look this weekend.

    When you go in the main gate keep to the left and follow the road around. You can't really miss it then. It is on the left.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    ah, I know where you're talking about. Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 dubtravel


    Hi,

    What is the commuting time to Dublin City Center on the bus?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    dubtravel wrote: »
    Hi,

    What is the commuting time to Dublin City Center on the bus?

    about 40-50 mins for the 67x express buses depending on traffic

    far longer for the usual 67 (in rush hour)

    The Bus Eireann is usually quicker but is more expensive


  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭kildarecommuter


    dubtravel wrote: »
    Hi,

    What is the commuting time to Dublin City Center on the bus?

    Bus Eireann 120 route is between 25-40 ish mins depending on traffic


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    The best thing anyone can do is pay the extra few euro for the Bus Eireann! The 67 is a nightmare. :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭kildarecommuter


    A single fare is 95c dearer than Dublin Bus to city centre


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 ant25


    Hey thanks for all the posts its all great to know, so keep them coming.
    I have another question: apparently stippling (plaster affect on ceilings) tiny points all across the plaster work on the ceiling can have WHITE ASBESTOS in it especially if done before 1980s. Anyone know if Dara Court estate's ceilings have asbestos in them??


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Celbridgeguy


    Hi Ant, I love in Celbridge,..I was born here and im going to go through all the replies here and give my honest opinion.

    First reply was about drugs, Im in my 20s and have grown up here,..Drugs are on the increase everywhere and Celbridge is the same however it is no worse (and probably a lot better than many other towns of its size). Iv never encountered drugs growing up and I think that has a lot to do with the "circle" you socialise in. im not stupid though Drugs must exist in the area but its easy to avoid. Traffic really isnt that bad at all,..school rush around the bridge at say 8;20ish to 8:50 can be a nightmare but if you work normal hours you will prob leave the town by say 8:10. Iv never felt the gaa thing at all either and im typing this with several friends (all local) and they disagree also so I guess again is the circle you move in. Dara court and castletown are fine,..not the best developements but safe and friendly but MAY need a lot of new insulation etc...teens drink in castletown woods so if you are too close to that it could be a problem. I drank there myself unfortunate to say !! it goes on with ALL teens in ALL towns and honestly I never see this because I dont live near castletown. Hazelhatch side has less teens FOR NOW,...its newer so in about 10 years when the other sides teens are all adults,..hazelhatch will have alot of teens...its just a common cycle in all areas. Aghards (mixed school) scoil na monistreach (boys) primrose hill (mixed) and Bridgids in village (girls) are very very good schools...I cant say too much of the others other than they would have a higher population of foreign nationals. I work in a school and Im not a lover of the educate together schools in general sorry!! The town is not any rougher then Leixlip and has less crime then maynooth (maynooth main street after hours being the main culprit) we have a bigger population then both towns (twice that of maynooth) so per capita the crime is very very low here. Tescos is not 24hours because it was losing money,..never once saw any bad behaviour there, some teens can hang out just outside the main wall until 10:30pm but they are no harm. The nightlink is excellent and onlytakes 30 mins, I go out a lot and have never seen anything scary other than people getting sick the odd time! The train is outside the town but lets face it,...unless you live a 5 min or less walk from a train station you will drive,...whats an extra 3 or 4 mins driving up to it compared to driving from one of the estates far away from the maynooth one for example,..i never got people problem with this. its a good station and handy. Phew,...im gonna post in a few mins (or longer) about what we Decided to buy our home here as opposed to any other are...Ill give you all the pros we found and see how your lifestyle compares.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Johner wrote: »
    The best thing anyone can do is pay the extra few euro for the Bus Eireann! The 67 is a nightmare. :o

    Bus Eireann is much nicer but very unpredictable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 Celbridgeguy


    So now the reasons we Decided to buy here,...a local and a south Dubliner,..our house search areas were,..Celbridge (poss maynooth although we both werent big fans) malahide,..Shankill, Bray, palmerstown, Chapelizod, and a few others,..Leixlip never featured on our search as in our opinion the town has nothing to offer us or a family like ours(no supermarket, less community to name but a few, youbasically have to leave that town for EVERYTHING. Our budget was quite healthy so we are lucky,..In all our searching we could find any other place quite as good a fit for us as here. Here are some of the reasons,..Its as close as you can be to Town but being still detatched and Village like. Well connected to town. Low crime (any crime is mostly assosiated with teens ie:a little vandilism). Tesco, Aldi, Lidl.Supervalu. Castletown house is an amazing amenity and th cafe is really lovely. The Village at Lyons is in Celbridge and we go there regularly,..lovely spot 5 star hotel,cafe and restaurant . the canal is a beautiful thing to have on our doorstep, you can cycle to the south side suburbs in about 90 mins. The area has done WAY WAY better then any other place we can think of as regards the recession,..lots of things closed down but some of the things we did get were,..A new costa coffee shop, New supermarket,..new lovely hotel (formerly the setanta and now reopend and beautiful), Base the bowling alley/play centre etc. I think that is a good sign for the town in general,..more units at supervalu are reserved too so who knows what will go in there! The night life is a little tame,..most pubs are lovely but nothing loud and roudy but maynooth is there for a dance whenever ya like but thats one of the main reasons we avoided Maynooth (also the high chance that one of your neighbours could be students!),...Take a drive up their main street at 3am!! The orchard in Celbridge is a great spot too and they do lovely food. Bus eireann AND Dublin bus is a bonus,..its good to have choice, plus the train. Its 25 mins from city outside rush our and 10 mins from liffey valley so again is a good compromise of being removed but conveinient. Its not perfect and nowhere is but for us its close. we need a very decent restaurant in the town. Celbridge manor are opening a tapas restaurant soon also a pool. there is a pool that does swim classes in St Raphiels. If you have any more questions just ask!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 poppy1974


    Hi all,
    We are looking to move to Celbridge.
    Would you have any idea if The Grove is a nice estate for a young family?
    Any info appreciated


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭2011abc


    Live in Leixlip ,regularly in Maynooth and wife works in Celbridge .Leixlip is a terrific place to raise kids .Would personally far prefer live here than Celbridge . It would be a distant third behind Maynooth in the MCL Triangle .Both the single sex secondary schools there are great however as far as I can tell.And Castletown is nice too but for vehicular access actually nearer to many parts of Leixlip .Would perceive Leixlip to be quite a bit better than other two for lack of crime and anti social behaviour but I guess you can be lucky or unlucky in any of the three.
    I guess all three have their pros and cons .


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