Commercial Rates in City to drop by 20%

Sully

7upfree wrote: »

It's one thing a private citizen posting anonymously (and in fairness Sully you've been dropping enough hints regarding my gender and job yourself here - breaking, no doubt, several boards rules in the process) but a publicly elected representative (if it is true) posting under a nom de plume???

Not acceptable really.

I have (genuinely) no idea if Smiley is a politican. Fully entitled to comment if he is as he is doing so in a private capacity and has nothing to do with Waterford City. Plus rumour mill suggests Damien is leaving FG.

As for yourself, several people pointed out your gender and we post in similar areas so it's kinda hard not to know publicly disclosed information about people. But I'm not going to publicly name you or suggest you reveal your identity nor other people with political links who I know post here.

7upfree

Sully wrote: »

I have (genuinely) no idea if Smiley is a politican. Fully entitled to comment if he is as he is doing so in a private capacity and has nothing to do with Waterford City. Plus rumour mill suggests Damien is leaving FG.

As for yourself, several people pointed out your gender and we post in similar areas so it's kinda hard not to know publicly disclosed information about people. But I'm not going to publicly name you or suggest you reveal your identity nor other people with political links who I know post here.

As a mod you're not supposed to. But my own opinion is that ANY public representative should post under their actual name - given that they are elected by the people.

As I said already I have no political agenda. I merely highlight discrimination against this City. However, there are people posting here with political agendas. Some of these attempt to ridicule those who choose to highlight said discrimination.

This is not right. If you're an elected rep then at least have the balls to declare yourself. It is bad enough that the City has been steamrolled without this type of carry-on ensuing.

Put up or shut up.

7upfree

jennygirl wrote: »

and btw - This City of ours is what we make it
if your not happy - petition a local councillor - thats what they are paid for
Make an appointment to see the City Manager - he's well paid for that.
dont wait for other people to do it, stand up, be positive about our city,make a difference, and support all our retailers, festivals, events by going to them, not slandering them. the far away hills may be greener, but our city is loved by a few of us and thousands of tourists!

Jenny - I check most of the above boxes. But as for positivity: do we sweep the discriminatory approach to Waterford City under the carpet in order to "remain positive"? Really?

Sully

7upfree wrote: »

As a mod you're not supposed to.

News to me. What you choose to put in the public domain on Boards can be seen by absolutely anybody and everybody. I don't particular care who I know and don't know, but it's a bit rich for you to be complaining about privacy and then trying to 'out' other posts identity.

But my own opinion is that ANY public representative should post under their actual name - given that they are elected by the people.

Well, that's again their own choice. Their posting in a personal capacity and in this case does not represent Waterford City. There are lots of politicians on Boards posting away, i'd wager. There are also (even in this forum) people posting who have strong connections to TDs / Cllrs. That's their business, their fully entitled to engage in discussions as long as it's just not 'promoting' the individual.

As I said already I have no political agenda. I merely highlight discrimination against this City. However, there are people posting here with political agendas. Some of these attempt to ridicule those who choose to highlight said discrimination.

But you ridicule people who disagree with you and claim they are associated with a political party. Not everybody agrees with your POV. Welcome to life.

jennygirl

7upfree wrote: »

Jenny - I check most of the above boxes. But as for positivity: do we sweep the discriminatory approach to Waterford City under the carpet in order to "remain positive"? Really?

much of the good things going on in the city are not reported. Everyone talks about the shops closing - not about anyone opening, of which there are a few. We got substantial monies from Government - but we prefer to grumble that others got more - look to the positives, and petition everyone to make it a better City.
Everyone says what a city night life we have, but if people support the bands, clubs, bars, festivals - there will be a lot more of them!

Psychedelic

O Riain wrote: »

My attitude is starting to change with regards to Fine Gaels downgrading of our city BUT there's still a lot more for them to do and it doesnt excuse the political bombarding they did on the front page of the paper.

ALSO!!

A month ago it was reported that the IDA were applying for planning permission for 25,000 square foot advanced technology buildings for Limerick and Waterford. What do I read recently in the paper? Only that Cork and Galway are getting them too.

It seems like 1 step forward 20 steps back all the time.

Waterford Today made the decision to put the Mayor's press release on their front page, hardly a "political bombarding" by FG. It was big news so fitting for front page coverage and it was totally appropriate for the Mayor to be the one issuing that piece of news. It does have some FG self-backslapping but in fairness they are the people who helped make that rates reduction possible. What's your opinion on the four councillors (SF, WP, Ind) who actually voted against such a positive Budget?

The IDA advance building is going ahead in Waterford. Cork and Galway are not getting one: "[The IDA] is also considering facilities in Galway and Limerick and will continue “to assess the requirements in other regions on an ongoing basis”.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ida-to-build-regional-manufacturing-bases-1.1643410

Hoffmans

dress it up how you like but fact is domesticwatercharges are forecast to pay for this sham rates baloni ..


That's if anyone pays them seeing theconsultant cronies have got a 50 million head start on Irish water

jennygirl

Hoffmans wrote: »

dress it up how you like but fact is domesticwatercharges are forecast to pay for this sham rates baloni ..


That's if anyone pays them seeing theconsultant cronies have got a 50 million head start on Irish water

whats that got to do with Commercial Rates. Commercial rate payers pay crazy water rates and have done for years. 4 Years ago we were paying .023 per q metre for water. The The Powers that be decided to charge for Water in and Water our. Even though they cannot measure Water Out! Thats the future of Domestic Water Rates!

7upfree

jennygirl wrote: »

much of the good things going on in the city are not reported. Everyone talks about the shops closing - not about anyone opening, of which there are a few. We got substantial monies from Government - but we prefer to grumble that others got more - look to the positives, and petition everyone to make it a better City.
Everyone says what a city night life we have, but if people support the bands, clubs, bars, festivals - there will be a lot more of them!

What you're misiing, jennygirl, is that we got a few cents, while others got hundreds of millions. Parity with our peer cities is what it's about.

7upfree

Sully wrote: »

News to me. What you choose to put in the public domain on Boards can be seen by absolutely anybody and everybody. I don't particular care who I know and don't know, but it's a bit rich for you to be complaining about privacy and then trying to 'out' other posts identity.

Again, as a moderator, you should lead by example.

Sully wrote: »

Well, that's again their own choice. Their posting in a personal capacity and in this case does not represent Waterford City. There are lots of politicians on Boards posting away, i'd wager. There are also (even in this forum) people posting who have strong connections to TDs / Cllrs. That's their business, their fully entitled to engage in discussions as long as it's just not 'promoting' the individual.

Indeed. 'Promoting the party' seems to be the order of the day. As I said already - no balls. If I were a public representative I would have my own website, fully transparent, and post under my own name on forums such as this. I think it is the courageous ting to do if you truly wish to serve your public.

Sully wrote: »

But you ridicule people who disagree with you and claim they are associated with a political party. Not everybody agrees with your POV. Welcome to life.

Lol! Right back at ya boy! You have a great track record in it yourself. The difference between you and I is that I see political parties for the leeches that they are. If they reward Waterford I will give them the credit they are due.

While they continue to discriminate against this city and its populace then I - and others like me - won't give you and yours an easy ride. Perhaps when you mature a little you will look back and realise just how silly you were to defend a shower that will go just as quickly as they arrived.

7upfree

Psychedelic wrote: »

Waterford Today made the decision to put the Mayor's press release on their front page, hardly a "political bombarding" by FG.

While there wasn't a mention of the city's 1100th birthday - or even a picture from Saturday night on the front page. Merely political BS of the highest order.

Cabaal

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