WWE Network Thread

Monokne · 26-03-2021 7:19pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I wonder how many US fans will start using VPN's to get our version of the Network now.

https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1375316140134522881?s=20

They have made the same edits to the network versions.

Monokne · 27-03-2021 1:14am

WWE Network News got some updates and clarifications on the Peacock move, for anyone who may be watching through that on here. The synopsis is that all the content including territorial stuff and hidden extras is scheduled to move across.

We’ve had discussions with both representatives of Peacock TV and WWE Network to get some clarification or confirmation on a few matters.

Peacock is reviewing all WWE content in order to make sure it aligns with Peacock’s standards and practices. This helps explain why the programming will be taking so long to move over from one streaming service to the other. And of course, this is why certain moments have been edited off of WWE Network.

A hot button issue among many subscribers, especially on this site, is whether or not territorial footage will be coming over. It was stated without any hesitation or disclaimer that all the territory footage on the WWE Network will be moved over. Of course, this isn’t accounting for anything needed to be censored, though there was no mention of any of the territory or classic footage needing edits specifically. In regard to the short form content on WWE Network including the “More From” and general extras, this content is all set to be added to the archives in the coming future.

Regarding the mass of content being transferred over, we did inquire about a larger and more complete “Recently Added” section or page of some kind to keep subscribers informed of what has been moved over in full. As of now, we have no information regarding this.

Itssoeasy · 27-03-2021 1:29am

Monokne wrote: »

WWE Network News got some updates and clarifications on the Peacock move, for anyone who may be watching through that on here. The synopsis is that all the content including territorial stuff and hidden extras is scheduled to move across.

Standards and practices ? Its late era WCW again. While I can understand peacock having to vet the content I don’t see why wwe and wwe network outside of peacock need to adhere to the same standards. I mean after seven years if something isn’t edited off wwe network then they don’t see an issue with it.

Agent Coulson · 27-03-2021 1:49am

The WWE getting Peacock to do all the hard work editing the content for it to be PG ready for when they sell it to 3rd parties around the world and cease operations of the Network.

The Network costs the WWE money selling the content to 3rd parties to stream saves them that cost of the Network and makes them huge money on the content instead of having a loss making/break even at best service.

Monokne · 27-03-2021 1:19pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Standards and practices ? Its late era WCW again. While I can understand peacock having to vet the content I don’t see why wwe and wwe network outside of peacock need to adhere to the same standards. I mean after seven years if something isn’t edited off wwe network then they don’t see an issue with it.

I wondered if it was a technical issue in terms of the file being streamed from the same location, ergo it will be the same in both places.

Agree it would be redundant to edit their own versions separately.

Monokne · 27-03-2021 1:21pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The WWE getting Peacock to do all the hard work editing the content for it to be PG ready for when they sell it to 3rd parties around the world and cease operations of the Network.

The Network costs the WWE money selling the content to 3rd parties to stream saves them that cost of the Network and makes them huge money on the content instead of having a loss making/break even at best service.

That's wrong mate. It makes good money, check the quarterly reports.

Certainly, the Peacock deal is making them a lot more money, mind you.

Itssoeasy · 27-03-2021 2:20pm

Monokne wrote: »

I wondered if it was a technical issue in terms of the file being streamed from the same location, ergo it will be the same in both places.

Agree it would be redundant to edit their own versions separately.

Well it being in the one place but wwe could have put the disclaimer back that they had which I felt was perfectly worded to separate the content from the company.

But wwe have edited stuff prior to it going on the network and as they’ve gone along so my point was the music and shows that have been edited are presumably how wwe wanted it. I don’t have an issue with the Vince promo being cut but whole matches is a bit too far.

Agent Coulson · 29-03-2021 9:11pm

Just reading there that the Peacock edited Network will be replacing the content on the Network all over the world.

Hope you call kept your physical copies.

Monokne · 29-03-2021 9:44pm

That's actually already been happening. Thought folk would have noticed.

Save your blackface Piper everyone

Cherry_Cola · 29-03-2021 9:48pm

Haha before I moved to the States I sold about 4000 DVDs from my collection. Should have held on.

Monokne · 29-03-2021 9:52pm

Cherry_Cola wrote: »

Haha before I moved to the States I sold about 4000 DVDs from my collection. Should have held on.

I f*cked mine in the bin.

Mind you, I didn't have four thousand.

Itssoeasy · 29-03-2021 10:37pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Just reading there that the Peacock edited Network will be replacing the content on the Network all over the world.

Hope you call kept your physical copies.

That’s already happened with wrestle mania 6 and that Vince promo.

Agent Coulson · 01-04-2021 4:00pm

One of the most memorable moments of the Attitude Era has been removed the DX parody of the Nation of Domination.

beakerjoe · 01-04-2021 4:07pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

One of the most memorable moments of the Attitude Era has been removed the DX parody of the Nation of Domination.

You can see why. While Ive no problem with it, I can see why its gone.

sirmanga · 01-04-2021 5:21pm

Nothing should be removed from the Network.

If Peacock feel the need to put up a warning for certain content, then so be it. But this erasing of history is just weird. Where will it end? Things change over time, and it's part of the experience watching something old and seeing just how different attitudes were back then.

Who's to say that in 20 years time the word "idiot" will be highly offensive and the Network would have to purge most of Jericho's promos from his most recent WWE run.

Look, if the Network survived up until now while featuring a man who killed his own wife and child, then I think Roddy Piper in blackface won't make much of a difference.

And besides, none of this offensive content is advertised to sell the Network. It's not featured in the homepage. You'd have to activately seek out content to be offended by. Which is what Peacock are doing. Pathetic.

Monokne · 01-04-2021 5:42pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

You can see why. While Ive no problem with it, I can see why its gone.

This is my take home on all of this.

I understand the people who don't feel that history should be retconned.

However, to me that is not what is happening. Peacock and WWE are choosing not to offer offensive content for streaming. I don't have an idea in my head that I have a divine right to see this for my fiver a month or that somehow (and this is where other people seem to be coming from) they are now pretending it didn't happen.

All of this removed content was a part of wrestling history in January 2014, before there was a WWE network. It is still a part of wrestling history now.

Do I personally think it should be removed? No.

But am I annoyed I can't see wrestlers doing black face in the 1990's on the network anymore? Eh...no!

Don't know why anyone would be.

beakerjoe · 01-04-2021 6:36pm

Monokne wrote: »

This is my take home on all of this.

I understand the people who don't feel that history should be retconned.

However, to me that is not what is happening. Peacock and WWE are choosing not to offer offensive content for streaming. I don't have an idea in my head that I have a divine right to see this for my fiver a month or that somehow (and this is where other people seem to be coming from) they are now pretending it didn't happen.

All of this removed content was a part of wrestling history in January 2014, before there was a WWE network. It is still a part of wrestling history now.

Do I personally think it should be removed? No.

But am I annoyed I can't see wrestlers doing black face in the 1990's on the network anymore? Eh...no! Don't know why anyone would be.

Sure if I really REALLY wanna check out Piper in half n half or DX in black face in 98, I can check it out on youtube.

Monokne · 01-04-2021 7:23pm

Exactly. Or buy a DVD or blu ray

sirmanga · 01-04-2021 8:23pm

I just don't understand this erasing stuff. Why? In case it offends someone? Big deal. Being offended is part of the risk of being alive.

All these things are part of wrestling history. And they should be viewed in the context of history.

It's just funny that nobody is demanding they remove footage of a double murderer using a hold which he also used to kill his 7 year old son in real life. But a fake Scot painting his face black is where some people draw the line?

LineOfBeauty · 01-04-2021 8:40pm

Personally I don't care about that stuff because it's pro wrestling and if you watch pro wrestling you understand what it is.

But, nobody can react with shock to this. Peacock is big boy stuff, owned by a big boy company. The moment this was in the works that was it for the Network and having that entire vault at your fingertips. You'll never have that again in America, or here when they sell it off. And any non fan browsing about, who came across virtually any of the territory stuff, or a whole range of WWF/WWE stuff and basically all of ECW was going to post about it and cause an uproar. Peacock have tried to get ahead of it but in doing so they've created a mountain of work for themselves and have basically bought a library which they can never show in its entirety, or even half of the stuff on it because, why would they? They're there for the current WWE product, the live ppvs and the dumb talk shows. That's it.

sirmanga · 01-04-2021 9:20pm

Who is deciding what is offensive anyway? What's the criteria? Will all Hulk Hogan stuff be erased? What about Nick Dinsmore playing Eugene? Will it just be blackface stuff that's erased? If so, why?

What if I'm offended by the jokes about Shawn Michaels' receding hair line? Maybe I found that traumatic. Why should I have to listen to that hateful talk as a bald man?

What about Mike Tyson at Mania 14? After all, the man is a rapist. Why should survivors of sexual assault have to see that when watching WWE on Peacock?

My point is, you can't erase all offensive content. It's impossible. There'll always be someone offended by something.

Loughc · 01-04-2021 9:27pm

sirmanga wrote: »

My point is, you can't erase all offensive content. It's impossible. There'll always be someone offended by something.

This is true. Most of the current product offends all of my 5 senses.

sirmanga · 01-04-2021 9:32pm

Loughc wrote: »

This is true. Most of the current product offends all of my 5 senses.

Whenever WWE buys AEW I'm going to be lobbying Peacock to remove Young Bucks content due to the offence caused by their rubbish matches and selling.

LineOfBeauty · 01-04-2021 10:23pm

sirmanga wrote: »

Who is deciding what is offensive anyway? What's the criteria? Will all Hulk Hogan stuff be erased? What about Nick Dinsmore playing Eugene? Will it just be blackface stuff that's erased? If so, why?

What if I'm offended by the jokes about Shawn Michaels' receding hair line? Maybe I found that traumatic. Why should I have to listen to that hateful talk as a bald man?

What about Mike Tyson at Mania 14? After all, the man is a rapist. Why should survivors of sexual assault have to see that when watching WWE on Peacock?

My point is, you can't erase all offensive content. It's impossible. There'll always be someone offended by something.

You can be offended by all of those things. But it'll be things like racism, homophobia and sexism I'd imagine that will be the ones that are scrubbed.

LineOfBeauty · 01-04-2021 10:24pm

sirmanga wrote: »

Whenever WWE buys AEW I'm going to be lobbying Peacock to remove Young Bucks content due to the offence caused by their rubbish matches and selling.

Swear some day we're gonna jump into what people think selling actually is and we're gonna work it out once and for all.

Itssoeasy · 01-04-2021 10:36pm

Loughc wrote: »

This is true. Most of the current product offends all of my 5 senses.

Ha! That’s funny Loughc.

Monokne · 01-04-2021 10:36pm

sirmanga wrote: »

I just don't understand this erasing stuff. Why? In case it offends someone? Big deal. Being offended is part of the risk of being alive.

All these things are part of wrestling history. And they should be viewed in the context of history.

It's just funny that nobody is demanding they remove footage of a double murderer using a hold which he also used to kill his 7 year old son in real life. But a fake Scot painting his face black is where some people draw the line?

They are still part of wrestling history. These companies just don't want to broadcast them at the risk of offending people.

Monokne · 01-04-2021 10:39pm

sirmanga wrote: »

Who is deciding what is offensive anyway? What's the criteria? Will all Hulk Hogan stuff be erased? What about Nick Dinsmore playing Eugene? Will it just be blackface stuff that's erased? If so, why?

What if I'm offended by the jokes about Shawn Michaels' receding hair line? Maybe I found that traumatic. Why should I have to listen to that hateful talk as a bald man?

What about Mike Tyson at Mania 14? After all, the man is a rapist. Why should survivors of sexual assault have to see that when watching WWE on Peacock?

My point is, you can't erase all offensive content. It's impossible. There'll always be someone offended by something.

Content that could be considered racially insensitive appears to be what Peacock, and other streaming services, are eliminating. Netflix has removed episodes of certain shows for the same reason, amongst other platforms. It's just a hot button topic.

PTH2009 · 02-04-2021 5:21pm

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1061692124317471

Wasn't expecting that, Chris Jericho the latest guest on the Stone cold podcast

JP Liz V1 · 02-04-2021 5:24pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1061692124317471

Wasn't expecting that, Chris Jericho the latest guest on the Stone cold podcast

That should be interesting

https://twitter.com/WWENetwork/status/1378014457469763584

CastorTroy · 02-04-2021 5:44pm

And on Mania weekend

Loughc · 02-04-2021 5:47pm

WWE opening the forbidden door :pac:

Lithium93_ · 02-04-2021 5:49pm

Probably be a standard fluff interview, would've been better off on Austin's podcast where it could've been a no holds barred chat.

How much control does Austin actually have over Broken Skull Sessions?

Loughc · 02-04-2021 5:51pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Probably be a standard fluff interview, would've been better off on Austin's podcast where it could've been a no holds barred chat.

How much control does Austin actually have over Broken Skull Sessions?

Should draw a big audience on peacock for them as everyone will be interested if they mention AEW.

Lithium93_ · 02-04-2021 5:54pm

Loughc wrote: »

Should draw a big audience on peacock for them as everyone will be interested if they mention AEW.

Assuming they do mention AEW.

Necro · 02-04-2021 5:55pm

sirmanga wrote:

It's just funny that nobody is demanding they remove footage of a double murderer using a hold which he also used to kill his 7 year old son in real life. But a fake Scot painting his face black is where some people draw the line?

Tbh, I can't watch Benoit anymore anyways so if he got removed from the Network it would make no earthly difference to me.

ThePott · 02-04-2021 5:58pm

"So Chris, how's retirement going?"

02-04-2021 6:17pm

People waiting for a big discussion on AEW will be disappointed I think.

I'd say it'll be this towards the end of the interview..

Austin - "What are you up to these days, Chris?"

Jericho - "I'm still wrestling these days, Steve"

Austin - "That's cool man. Anyway thanks for being my guest on the broken skull sessions"

Loughc · 02-04-2021 6:25pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Assuming they do mention AEW.

That’s why I said if. But that’s the controversy element they will use to hook people in. It’s a clever move on all accounts.

The White Wolf · 02-04-2021 7:02pm

Jericho showing he's the cutest fcuker in the business yet again. Still keeping WWE sweet.

beakerjoe · 02-04-2021 7:49pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

Jericho showing he's the cutest fcuker in the business yet again. Still keeping WWE sweet.

Hes been criticising WWE at times, but always says hes still on good terms with Vince.

Im curious how the deal came about.

Realisticly its a win win situation. Gets eyes on WWEs show, it doenst affect AEW in anyway I can see. Its not like Jericho is turning up in NXT while a AEW show is airing.

Im surprised at WWE.... they usually like to erase talent that work with a rival... esp one so instrumental in AEWs success. Why the change? Who organised it, who greenlight it?

I imagine it will not mention AEW in the slightest though

beakerjoe · 02-04-2021 7:51pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Probably be a standard fluff interview, would've been better off on Austin's podcast where it could've been a no holds barred chat.

How much control does Austin actually have over Broken Skull Sessions?

See Austins own pod doesnt make it controversial.

An AEW talent on a WWE show is unprecedented. Its the hook. We are all curious to see how WWE handle it.

JP Liz V1 · 02-04-2021 8:22pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

Jericho showing he's the cutest fcuker in the business yet again. Still keeping WWE sweet.

HOF next year?

The White Wolf · 02-04-2021 8:23pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

HOF next year?

I don't know but it's a given he'll be there one day and doing TV appearances. He's a smarter version of Flair.

sirmanga · 02-04-2021 8:33pm

This just goes to show how little of a threat Vince thinks AEW poses.

Besides, any WWE fans who don't watch AEW are hardly gonna be inspired to upon watching this interview when they see a haggard, over the hill, overweight guy who used to be a big star for WWE. It'd be like a former Man United player being interviewed on MUTV talking about how great it is to be playing in the league in Qatar for 500,000 a week.

Which is what AEW is, basically. A league that hardly anyone watches, with massive money behind it, being run by a giddy mark who is willing to shell out money for over the hill former premier league stars, and whose home grown talent is subpar to put it kindly.

LineOfBeauty · 02-04-2021 8:34pm

sirmanga wrote: »

This just goes to show how little of a threat Vince views AEW.

Besides, any WWE fans who don't watch AEW are hardly gonna be inspired to upon watching this interview when they see a haggard, over the hill, overweight guy who used to be a big star for WWE. It'd be like a former Man United player being interviewed on MUTV talking about how great it is to be playing in the league in Qatar for 500,000 a week.
Which is what AEW is, basically. A league with massive money behind it being run by a giddy mark who is willing to shell out money for over the hill former premier league stars, and whose home grown talent is subpar to put it kindly.

Kenny Omega as subpar. Jesus wept.

Loughc · 02-04-2021 8:36pm

LineOfBeauty · 02-04-2021 8:37pm

Loughc wrote: »

no stop that!

beakerjoe · 02-04-2021 8:57pm

sirmanga wrote: »

This just goes to show how little of a threat Vince thinks AEW poses.

Besides, any WWE fans who don't watch AEW are hardly gonna be inspired to upon watching this interview when they see a haggard, over the hill, overweight guy who used to be a big star for WWE. It'd be like a former Man United player being interviewed on MUTV talking about how great it is to be playing in the league in Qatar for 500,000 a week.

Which is what AEW is, basically. A league that hardly anyone watches, with massive money behind it, being run by a giddy mark who is willing to shell out money for over the hill former premier league stars, and whose home grown talent is subpar to put it kindly.

I get what you are trying to say, i believe your comparisons dont fit.

WWE certainly feel AEW is a threat. Maybe not an immediate threat but its certainly got their attention.

They wouldn't go two hours on NXT when AEW Dynamite debuted otherwise.

The counter booking on NXT suggests they are worried.

The move from Wednesday to Tuesday nights.

Again maybe not an immediate threat but they certainly are feeling a little worried.

AEW is miles off being the brand WWE is, but are slowly growing and doing probably better than most expected in tehir first 2 years especially with a Pandemic.

J. Marston · 02-04-2021 9:03pm

sirmanga wrote: »

This just goes to show how little of a threat Vince thinks AEW poses.

Besides, any WWE fans who don't watch AEW are hardly gonna be inspired to upon watching this interview when they see a haggard, over the hill, overweight guy who used to be a big star for WWE. It'd be like a former Man United player being interviewed on MUTV talking about how great it is to be playing in the league in Qatar for 500,000 a week.

Which is what AEW is, basically. A league that hardly anyone watches, with massive money behind it, being run by a giddy mark who is willing to shell out money for over the hill former premier league stars, and whose home grown talent is subpar to put it kindly.

Hey now, Britt Baker is pretty good.

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