do people actually still not like the English?

rob316

I mean normal people not jumped up idiots.

I was talking to a guy today not old either and he just had such venom against the english. Hated everything to do with them.

I just find it ridiculous in this day and age.

is this a touchy issue? Shut it down mod if it is.

MJ23

rob316 wrote: »

I mean normal people not jumped up idiots.

I was talking to a guy today not old either and he just had such venom against the english. Hated everything to do with them.

Was he wearing a Man Utd jersey?

SureYWouldntYa

bet he supported Man United and all he talks about is English football

rob316

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

bet he supported Man United and all he talks about is English football

He wasn't unfortunately. I just find it stupid to hate a nation of people based on the past. Especially when irish society is so heavily influenced by the english.
im not talking about Churchill, the crown etc im talking about hating regular english people.

this guy is a business man and won't deal with any english companies.

SureYWouldntYa

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

bet he supported Man United and all he talks about is English football

Probably the same person on the barstool watching an international match England V ???
and wanting ??? to win regardless of who ??? are while wearing his Man U shirt.

SimonLynch

Northern English and southern English don't really like each other much, midlanders are tolerated despite their 70s haircuts and silly accents :-)

Irishmale0399

Wouldnt say i hate them.....however they can be right arrogent pricks when they want to be.

Live in Germany and went shopping with the wife and kids on Saturday in a big Dutch outlet village. On leaving a shop i overheard a young father wisper to his son....."****in Nazis everywhere" and pointed to my son. I cooly turned asked him in my best German accent what his job was, his reply with a smile was I am a British soldier....my reply with a smile on my face was, my son was born in South Armagh, has an Irish Passport so be careful boy or else you may not leave the the shopping center alive. His jaw dropped and the wife was full of sorrys.

On the other hand.....I am sure he hates the Paddys......like the Dutch hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Dutch, Belguims hate the Dutch, Germans hate the French.......... You will always find a few haters everywhere.

Manach

Current English- Grand.
Historical English - there were a tad overbearing over here.

Karl Stein

I'm always wary of making blanket statements about tens of millions of people but I'm going to go ahead and say the English are a grand bunch of lads.

SweepTheLeg

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

On leaving a shop i overheard a young father wisper to his son....."****in Nazis everywhere"

Disgusting parenting.

Victoria Fortescue

rob316 wrote: »

I mean normal people not jumped up idiots.

I was talking to a guy an idiot today not old either and he just had such venom against the english. Hated everything to do with them.

I just find it ridiculous in this day and age.

I've taken the liberty of fixing that for you Sir.

Vinz Mesrine

I find it an easy way to distinguish between idiots and regular people. Hate the English / Brits because of 800 years? You sir are an idiot.

anncoates

I like them except anybody currently starring in benefits street on channel 4.

WeHaveToGoBack

I think most people, myself anyway, who "dont like England" or the British, don't hate every single person, but the idea of the UK and its people.

For example, I dont like Britain, but that doesn't mean I would never go to England.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

rob316 wrote: »

this guy is a business man and won't deal with any english companies.

Probably not a good one if he lets his judgement be clouded by hate.

I've never understood the anti-Englishism and for me most of the reaons given are done through confirmation bias. They alread hate them now they've just got to find reasons to jistify the hate.

"They always think they're going to win the World Cup" - no more or less than we do. I don't think I've ever seen a major soccer tournament where English fans thought they were genuine contenders. Not actual favourites, mind - just contenders.

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Wouldnt say i hate them.....however they can be right arrogent pricks when they want to be.

Live in Germany and went shopping with the wife and kids on Saturday in a big Dutch outlet village. On leaving a shop i overheard a young father wisper to his son....."****in Nazis everywhere" and pointed to my son. I cooly turned asked him in my best German accent what his job was, his reply with a smile was I am a British soldier....my reply with a smile on my face was, my son was born in South Armagh, has an Irish Passport so be careful boy or else you may not leave the the shopping center alive. His jaw dropped and the wife was full of sorrys.

On the other hand.....I am sure he hates the Paddys......like the Dutch hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Dutch, Belguims hate the Dutch, Germans hate the French.......... You will always find a few haters everywhere.

Hardly representative, to be fair..? And his hate is hardly based on his nationality.

Vinz Mesrine

WeHaveToGoBack wrote: »

I think most people, myself anyway, who "dont like England" or the British, don't hate every single person, but the idea of the UK and its people.

For example, I dont like Britain, but that doesn't mean I would never go to England.

So you hate the actual land? The grass, rock and muck etc?

PizzamanIRL

I had a dislike towards the English in general when i learnt about the history of it all in secondary school. Just being a silly teenager.

Any English person i know or encountered have been completely sound.

downonthefarm

That **** is so old now,
The ones who really ****ed us over were our own people

MonaPizza

rob316 wrote: »

I mean normal people not jumped up idiots.

I was talking to a guy today not old either and he just had such venom against the english. Hated everything to do with them.

I just find it ridiculous in this day and age.

is this a touchy issue? Shut it down mod if it is.

How could you not like this:


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My name is URL

WeHaveToGoBack wrote: »

For example, I dont like Britain

What, as a landmass? I suppose it is quite sinister looking... like it's about to pinch Ireland on the bum or something.

Tombi!

I'll say the same thing I say when someone from outside of UK/Ireland asks: some people do understand the history and that's there motivation. But it's more akin to "I don't want anything to do with the British; just give back Northen Ireland". Most people don't.
However, the majority of the "anti-English" people have no clue about history and just claim it because they're idiots.

Tombi!

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I find it an easy way to distinguish between idiots and regular people. Hate the English / Brits because of 800 years? You sir are an idiot.

Well that's a bit unfair. I mean if you say you hate modern Britain, yeah sure. You can call them idiots then.
But to say you hated the historial things they did here isn't really idiotic at all.

mathepac

anncoates wrote: »

I like them except anybody currently starring in benefits street on channel 4.

An Irish bird features in the series ... "Holy Mary, mother of god send me down a couple of bob ... "

_Redzer_

I don't care where someone is from, if I dislike them it's got nothing to do with their nationality.

1huge1

You might as well say you hate the Irish while your at it, the amount of ''English'' people of Irish descent is massive, Irish people have played a large part in shaping the Britain of today. Thankfully though, over the past 10-15 years, I've noticed that the anti English sentiment has reduced massively.

rob316

It went like this.

Customer: im looking for x product?
Me: oh my supplier in ireland is out of that let me check the uk sir.
customer: the uk! Can't anyone get something not from the tans, sick of giving the queen my money.
me: excuse me are you serious?
Customer: yes dead serious like any self respecting irish man should be.
Me: right well glad you got over the last 800 years you had zero to do with.
Customer: nothing to do with, cocky arrogant *****. They fed on blood of our slaughtered and we bow to them today. There useless excuse for football and there rubbish television and ideology forced on us.

Rather than engage this moron anymore I asked him to leave and he did.

thecatspjs

I support Man Utd but I'm not particularly fond of the English national team.

Does this make me a bad person? Am I allowed to do this?

Rabelais

As a pure Celtic son of Róisín I spit on the ground whenever I have to go to Perfidious Albion to deal with those unholy goons. With their Tesco's and their Debenhams and their Wayne Rooney's.

rob316

thecatspjs wrote: »

I support Man Utd but I'm not particularly fond of the English national team.

Does this make me a bad person? Am I allowed to do this?

Don't think.many are fond of the english football team mainly due to to media in england.
Most of us watch there players week in week out and I would have no problem with them winning a major tournament.

somuj

thecatspjs wrote: »

I support Man Utd but I'm not particularly fond of the English national team.

Does this make me a bad person? Am I allowed to do this?

Yes. Yes it does make you a bad person. You shall be hung drawn and quartered at the tower of London and your limbs sent to every corner of the country.

thecatspjs

somuj wrote: »

Yes. Yes it does make you a bad person. You shall be hung drawn and quartered at the tower of London and your limbs sent to every corner of the country.

****, I thought as much.

*goes to get a GAA jersey and cancel Sky Sports subscription*

Red Crow

I don't hate the English. I think the typical user of After Hours would be far more painful to listen to than the English.

The Golden Miller

Ah, another thread set up to bash the non-existent celtic jersey wearing armchair republican, nationalism, Sinn Fein and everything else related. The unbelievable irony of people like the OP, who feel the need to keep bashing nationalism and everything related and giving out about it with the most smug condescending attitude, yet they are the ones with the biggest chip on the shoulder themselves. How many pro-nationalists threads actually get set up compared to anti Sinn Fein ones, anti Gerry Adams, pro partition ones. You lot of revisionists need to get a fcuking life. No one ever had a problem with the common English person, sure we all have relations there. It was the British government the people hated, their security forces and the monarchy and what they did and represent. Not the English people. But lets not let that stop another nationalist bashing sessions, full of armchair republican stereotypes. Bunch of fcuking losers

Peanut Butter Jelly

Maybe it doesn't count, but I don't like the monarchy. They are a direct representative of Henry II and that's why I don't like them. However, I see Harry and William as possibly the first generation of the monarchy I could like. They seem much more down to earth than Elizabeth and Phillip/Charles/whoever's next.

As a people, I don't mind the English at all. They're fairly sound as far as I can tell and I don't hold any grudge against them. However, if they brought up the history of their invasion to make a mockery of Ireland, or to insult someone, obviously that would change my opinion.

cmore123

I've been over there about half a dozen times on hols. With a single exception, who was drunk, I found the whole lot of them to be absolutely lovely. I received help and friendship everywhere I went. When I meet one of them here, I am pleased to offer the same.

Vinz Mesrine

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Ah, another thread set up to bash the non-existent celtic jersey wearing armchair republican, nationalism, Sinn Fein and everything else related. The unbelievable irony of people like the OP, who feel the need to keep bashing nationalism and everything related and giving out about it with the most smug condescending attitude, yet they are the ones with the biggest chip on the shoulder themselves. How many pro-nationalists threads actually get set up compared to anti Sinn Fein ones, anti Gerry Adams, pro partition ones. You lot of revisionists need to get a fcuking life. No one ever had a problem with the common English person, sure we all have relations there. It was the British government the people hated, their security forces and the monarchy and what they did and represent. Not the English people. But lets not let that stop another nationalist bashing sessions, full of armchair republican stereotypes. Bunch of fcuking losers

Have you ever uttered the phrase "butchers apron" by any chance?

rm234

Definitely think after meeting countless English on trips abroad as well as here, they are a pleasant bunch and we share a lot in common. Also, they have a massive population compared to ours, as well as being culturally diverse and many of them having parents from different cultures, so the only ones worth hating are the BNP/EDL/NF type morons. The only thing that grinds my gears (but understandable, as i said, sharing cultures and that) is when other nationalities think Ireland is British. I don't lose my s**t on them, I just correct them so they know for future reference. Dylan Moran sums up our relationship with them well here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QccLy8498yg

sabat

Jeremy Kyle, John Terry, Danny Dyer, Nigel Farage, Richard Littlejohn, Jeremy Clarkson- what's not to like?

hucklebuck

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I find it an easy way to distinguish between idiots and regular people. Hate the English / Brits because of 800 years? You sir are an idiot.

Or maybe some people hate the Brits because they had British Soldiers kick the door of their house down for being Catholic in the 60's or had a grandparent killed in the 1900's?

It's very easy to say I hate all Brits or people who do hate Brits are idiots but the bigger picture should be looked at.

The Golden Miller

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Have you ever uttered the phrase "butchers apron" by any chance?

Nah man, why would I?

masti123

Well British soldiers have killed alot of innocent people during the Troubles just 30-40 years ago and they still have a presence in Ireland

Courtesy Flush

English people are generally fine. The British establishment has always been the problem

Oakboy

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Ah, another thread set up to bash the non-existent celtic jersey wearing armchair republican, nationalism, Sinn Fein and everything else related. The unbelievable irony of people like the OP, who feel the need to keep bashing nationalism and everything related and giving out about it with the most smug condescending attitude, yet they are the ones with the biggest chip on the shoulder themselves. How many pro-nationalists threads actually get set up compared to anti Sinn Fein ones, anti Gerry Adams, pro partition ones. You lot of revisionists need to get a fcuking life. No one ever had a problem with the common English person, sure we all have relations there. It was the British government the people hated, their security forces and the monarchy and what they did and represent. Not the English people. But lets not let that stop another nationalist bashing sessions, full of armchair republican stereotypes. Bunch of fcuking losers

Thank you! There are too many people like the OP who like to invent characters to smear anyone with a hint of nationalistic outlook. I have never met one person who holds a grudge with the common english person, not one.

Where are all these man united jersey wearing, english loathing, tootless simpletons? Oh yeah that's right, they don't exist

Vinz Mesrine

hucklebuck wrote: »

Or maybe some people hate the Brits because they had British Soldiers kick the door of their house down for being Catholic in the 60's or had a grandparent killed in the 1900's?

It's very easy to say I hate all Brits or people who do hate Brits are idiots but the bigger picture should be looked at.

So hate the soldiers who did it, not the entire nation.

Legs.Eleven

I lived there for over 2 and a half years and my experience there was very positive overall; many of those I worked and lived with were very kind to me.

They're such a diverse lot that I'd say more than any European nationality, you'd have problems generalising about them the most.

The Golden Miller

masti123 wrote: »

Well British soldiers have killed alot of innocent people during the Troubles just 30-40 years ago and they still have a presence in Ireland

Ye but thats all our own fault remember

thecatspjs

rm234 wrote: »

The only thing that grinds my gears (but understandable, as i said, sharing cultures and that) is when other nationalities think Ireland is British. I don't lose my s**t on them, I just correct them so they know for future reference.

Same here, but everyone from everywhere is like that. If someone thought Belgium was a part of the Netherlands or that Albania was Greek I know that they would be quick enough to tell you otherwise. It is nearly always an honest mistake.

My name is URL

sabat wrote: »

Jeremy Kyle, John Terry, Danny Dyer, Nigel Farage, Richard Littlejohn, Jeremy Clarkson- what's not to like?

I quite like 2 of those people.

LordSutch

The English, the Scots, the Irish & the Welsh - all very similar, all interconnected through blood lines, history, geography & culture. nobody minds a bit of ribbing between the four of us on these two islands. Not sure I could 'hate' a whole nationality though.

The Golden Miller

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

So hate the soldiers who did it, not the entire nation.

Thats what he's implying

Vinz Mesrine

sabat wrote: »

Jeremy Kyle, John Terry, Danny Dyer, Nigel Farage, Richard Littlejohn, Jeremy Clarkson- what's not to like?

Eamonn Dunphy, twink, bono, ryan tubridy, daithi o'se. Shall I go on?