Sunderland v Manchester United | Capital One Cup | 19:45 | Sky Sports 1

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Well I enjoyed that, except for the part where I nearly got hit by a flare, where they showed it on the tv was not where it landed!

Ki was the best player on the pitch once again, the luck went with Sunderland for the first time in a long time.

Roll on Old Trafford.

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v3ttel wrote: »

No. No he didn't.

Video here: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9106046/capital-one-cup-manchester-united-boss-david-moyes-slams-referee-after-sunderland-defeat

He said "I mean, our crowd were unbelievable tonight.The crowd were fantastic. The support they gave the team and me especially, was terrific"

Also said "the players did well enough to get a result" a few seconds after that.

What do you expect the manager to say in any case? "We were shocking. I desperately need to sign 4 world class players"

Have to say the United fans were immense. They sang their hearts out, and supported Moyes big time.

Shocking the amount of seats Sunderland couldn't sell.

niallo27

Shankly Gates wrote: »

Good penalty

The Sunderland player was a good 4 or 5 yards in the box when it was taken.

Bridge93

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Have to say the United fans were immense. They sang their hearts out, and supported Moyes big time.

Shocking the amount of seats Sunderland couldn't sell.

I agree it looks really bad on tv for a cup semi final. There were even less against Chelsea. Serbs they only sell out or get close when Newcastle are in town.
Think part of the problem is the stadium is far too big. A 49,000 sweater stadium is way too big for a town with Sunderlands population size and the fact they are a lower half team, it is very difficult to fill.

K4t

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Ki was the best player on the pitch once again, the luck went with Sunderland for the first time in a long time.

Roll on Old Trafford.

kryogen

K4t wrote: »

.....and an 18m signing sitting on the bench who was and still is touted by many as one of the top attacking midfielders in europe.

Either conversion rate you are using has this wrong you know, he was 12 million pounds, which worked out to 16million euro

Just to pick up on your point that Valencia didnt cost 18 million, you are right, was about 18.9 million euro (or 16.5million pounds)

zefer

v3ttel wrote: »

No. No he didn't.

Video here: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9106046/capital-one-cup-manchester-united-boss-david-moyes-slams-referee-after-sunderland-defeat

He said "I mean, our crowd were unbelievable tonight.The crowd were fantastic. The support they gave the team and me especially, was terrific"

Also said "the players did well enough to get a result" a few seconds after that.

What do you expect the manager to say in any case? "We were shocking. I desperately need to sign 4 world class players"

Thats not what was on the bbc website last night but whatever.

and yes, it would be refreshing if he came out and said the players werent good enough, need to do better

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Bridge93 wrote: »

I agree it looks really bad on tv for a cup semi final. There were even less against Chelsea. Serbs they only sell out or get close when Newcastle are in town.
Think part of the problem is the stadium is far too big. A 49,000 sweater stadium is way too big for a town with Sunderlands population size and the fact they are a lower half team, it is very difficult to fill.

The derby wasn't even a sell out this season which says a lot.

The Chelsea cup game cost me a tenner to get in, last night was 20.

I don't know if it being so close to Christmas, and with the Villa game, the Carlisle game and last night being so close made it a money issue for some, added to the fact it was on the tv and the recent weather.

Not trying to make excuses, Either ways i am not a Sunderland fan, but I have a season ticket and even I was disappointed with the turn out last night.

Paully D

On the game - delighted to come away with the win. There weren't many clear cut chances and a draw probably would have been a fair result. I think the penalty was outside the box too from what I have seen. I don't understand Moyes' comments on the referee at all though, he wasn't going to give the penalty until the linesman flagged, Rafael should have walked and a large number of 50/50 challenges went the way of Manchester United. I'd imagine he doesn't really believe much of what he said anyway and is using it as a diversion tactic.

Regarding the comments on the crowd, I think the fact that 31,000 is seen as a poor crowd is testament to just how good our support is.

Our average home attendance this season ranks only below that of Manchester United/City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Newcastle, all clubs who (with the exception of Newcastle, tut they have challenged for titles in the past and played European football only two seasons ago) have enjoyed a long period of success or who have become successful recently, while the most we have had to shout about since 1973 is a 10th place Premier League finish a few years ago.

There were three home games on in the space of 5 days and in an area with the highest unemployment rate in the UK, people can't afford to go to all of them and many will have had to choose between that and the league game of which a lot will have season tickets meaning the league game will win over.

It's also worth noting that the television cameras face an area of the ground that is always lesser filled and the stand where the television cameras set up is generally always pretty full, as it was again last night. It does look terrible and the club have enquried before about changing the cameras to the opposite stand, but it's not possible due to the direction the sun when it shines which would result in it being a nightmare for viewers at home.

Those that were there were excellent though and so were the Manchester United fans minus the imbecile that threw the flare and the other few who broke seats and fixtures around the concourse.

Overall, it's game on for the second leg!

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Bit of good news,

The Man Utd fan who threw the flare at Sunderland fans has been identified.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/police-identify-manchester-united-fan-who-threw-flare-at-sunderland-supporters-during-cup-clash-1-6360630