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kona · 07-01-2014 8:10pm

kryogen wrote: »

Bull****

Why?

kryogen · 07-01-2014 8:11pm

kona wrote: »

Why?

Valencia has been dire. Cleverley is inanimate.

bmcc10 · 07-01-2014 8:12pm

So frustrating looking at United line-ups these days, I've a feeling Valencia will tear Sunderland a new one helps with Raf behind him then he'll be back to usual come the weekend.

Cantona's Collars · 07-01-2014 8:13pm

Jaysus,picking Cleverly & Valencia after the sh1tfest they offered the other day and the pensioner to hold things together:(.Along with Carrick being off form & just back from injury I have very little confidence in us getting a result tonight.

I wonder how long it will take before Carrick get's pissed off passing the ball to Cleverly and instead reverts to constant long diagonals to Valencia which will be equally unproductive.

Pighead · 07-01-2014 8:13pm

Don't know why everybody is so down on Giggs. Ok I realise in the bigger picture it isn't ideal playing a 40 year old but given how poorly the midfield have generally been this season I'm glad to see Giggs in there.

He hasn't started a whole lot over the last month or so but in general he has been decent when he has got a run. Very good against Leverkuson and good against Villa I thought.

kona · 07-01-2014 8:14pm

kryogen wrote: »

Valencia has been dire. Cleverley is inanimate.

That's true , but kagawa has been just as ****e. In fact I'd say worse , everythime he gets the ball he just gets moved off it, at least val battles somewhat, even if they are unbelievably frustrating.

Agueroooo · 07-01-2014 8:14pm

Both teams to score & Sunderland win @10/1 is tempting

kona · 07-01-2014 8:15pm

Agueroooo wrote: »

Both teams to score & Sunderland win @10/1 is tempting

Took it to cover the united bets.

sky88 · 07-01-2014 8:15pm

Would literally rather anyone on that pitch than valancia including lindergard

kryogen · 07-01-2014 8:15pm

Pighead wrote: »

Don't know why everybody is so down on Giggs. Ok I realise in the bigger picture it isn't ideal playing a 40 year old but given how poorly the midfield have generally been this season I'm glad to see Giggs in there.

He hasn't started a whole lot over the last month or so but in general he has been decent when he has got a run. Very good against Leverkuson and good against Villa I thought.

Got taken off at half time he was so bad last time, but I dont mind him playing tonight, we need someone who can pick a pass

KevIRL · 07-01-2014 8:16pm

Getting on Giggs firstgoalscroer @ 16/1 after the bashing on here :pac:

yabadabado · 07-01-2014 8:18pm

Perfect opportunity to play Kagawa in his preferred position tonight. Could have played Giggs in cm with Carrick.

Chagan · 07-01-2014 8:23pm

Would have liked to have seen Zaha get a start ahead of Valencia. Other than that no real surprises, not expecting anything special. United to win 2-1.

Pighead · 07-01-2014 8:24pm

kryogen wrote: »

Got taken off at half time he was so bad last time, but I dont mind him playing tonight, we need someone who can pick a pass

That's true. Although Cleverly, Carrick and Kagawa were equally as dire that day in the opening half. Actually the whole team stank the place out that day in the first half.

Agueroooo · 07-01-2014 8:25pm

I fancy Borini to score in this one. Give him half a yard and he should find space in behind tonight.

Oregano_State · 07-01-2014 8:35pm

FFS just got a stream there and have to deal with the hyperbolic ramblings of Ray Hudson.

I have no idea how he has this job.

kfallon · 07-01-2014 8:36pm

The state of Peter Reid's suit, Christ alive!

niallo27 · 07-01-2014 8:37pm

Sunderland at 5.3 looks like a bit of value.

Owen_S · 07-01-2014 8:37pm

Peter Reid is surprisingly good tonight

Headshot · 07-01-2014 8:37pm

Moyes is lucky that he's playing a dreadful sunderland team tonight, might help get the team back on track some what

Ganymede Glow · 07-01-2014 8:38pm

Utopia Parkway · 07-01-2014 8:45pm

Owen_S wrote: »

Peter Reid is surprisingly good tonight

Better than Andy Cole anyway although it wouldn't be hard.

MagicMarker · 07-01-2014 8:47pm

Giggs behind Welbeck...

kryogen · 07-01-2014 8:49pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

Giggs behind Welbeck...

Just screams potent doesnt it

07-01-2014 8:50pm

Is Evra on strike?

miralize · 07-01-2014 8:51pm

Sunderland have more intensity so far..

Mars Bar · 07-01-2014 8:51pm

Evra and his "positioning"...

Mars Bar · 07-01-2014 8:52pm

shadowcomplex wrote: »

any streams?

Please read the thread on stream requests. Absolutely NO requests for streams are to be made.

JRant · 07-01-2014 8:52pm

Giggs has started up front just behind Welbeck, who along with Cleverley and Valencia are rewarded for playing like drains at the weekend. And we wonder why we're struggling for form.

Thought Chico more than deserved a spot on the team after putting a decent shift in last time out.

JRant · 07-01-2014 8:54pm

kryogen wrote: »

Just screams potent doesnt it

Viagra should sponsor that forward line.

Headshot · 07-01-2014 8:56pm

JRant wrote: »

Viagra should sponsor that forward line.

The forward line is to stiff

kryogen · 07-01-2014 8:56pm

Moyes has an aversion to playing 2 strikers away from home. He actually is clearly not getting that you just cant play 1 of Hernandez or Welbeck up top alone.

Very worrying tbh

Chagan · 07-01-2014 8:56pm

Stadium looks half empty.

super_furry · 07-01-2014 8:57pm

Giggs really is a liability these days.

JRant · 07-01-2014 9:00pm

kryogen wrote: »

Moyes has an aversion to playing 2 strikers away from home. He actually is clearly not getting that you just cant play 1 of Hernandez or Welbeck up top alone.

Very worrying tbh

If giggs swapped with adnan i think we'd get a lot of joy through the middle. Sunderland are set up to block the wide channels