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The Middle Distance Thread
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From my own experience
800m
Have only ran one but the first half lap felt so easy (65s). Really felt more like a 70s lap and busted a gut on the 2nd lap but still only ran 2.10. I think it would be very hard to negative split here but personally I think I'd have to go for as even pace as possible.
1500/Mile
Haven't ran a 1500 yet but have ran a couple of miles. I would say I've negative splitted them all and like to pick it up on the second last lap and really go for it from far out due to lack of a kick. 2nd lap I think is the most crucial here because you don't want to be pushing too hard but you don't want to leak time either. Took me a few races to judge this right.
3000
In a similar manner to the mile, I like to pick it up from half way or 4 laps to go and then steadily increase the effort each lap. Again its easy to lose valuable seconds on the the second and third laps. You're not fresh like the first lap and its too far out to think about getting in to real discomfort. If you can have someone call out your lap splits to keep you honest then this is a great help. You normally get this at the graded meets.
Interesting sample from 3k time trial we used to do every month down the club (in the glory days, when we used have a track :rolleyes:) Maybe a bit of an extreme example but don't think I could have ran a much faster time on the day.
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Ooooh, a 1500 to kick things off. Was secretly hoping for a 3k like last year when I still have a bit of endurance from the XC but I won't complain.
Look forward to seeing you out there Sacksian. What grade for the 1500 are you thinking? Looks to be a bit of overlap between the A and the B in previous results for in and around the times we'd be anticipating. To be honest, I'm still not sure what that is for me
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Chivito550 wrote: »Seems like my multiple suggestions of putting the 100/400/1500 on one programme, and 200/800/3000 on the other were graciously ignored. Won't bother giving feedback in future as it seems to be a waste of time.
I can't see why they wouldn't go for this
. Seems the only sensible option. The last thing you want is two events next to each other in distance taking place on the same night. 0 -
KielyUnusual wrote: »I can't see why they wouldn't go for this. Seems the only sensible option. The last thing you want is two events next to each other in distance taking place on the same night.
Exactly. It's how the interclub season was structured in Melbourne and it's so damn simple it's ridiculous. It's seems like suggestions fall on deaf ears when it comes to athletics here. Frustrating.0 -
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KielyUnusual wrote: »Ooooh, a 1500 to kick things off. Was secretly hoping for a 3k like last year when I still have a bit of endurance from the XC but I won't complain.
Look forward to seeing you out there Sacksian. What grade for the 1500 are you thinking? Looks to be a bit of overlap between the A and the B in previous results for in and around the times we'd be anticipating. To be honest, I'm still not sure what that is for me.
To be honest, KU, I’m just going for whatever grade you’re not in - I’m thinking a sit-and-kick in grade D might be the confidence booster I need?! But I wouldn’t be surprised to see two full ‘A’ races.
Road relays are the weekend before, so I’ll see what sort of condition my condition is in. Hamstring willing, I may even do the 200m!0 -
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Nice to have a 1500m at the first meet, means you can see exactly where you are and what you need to do to get to where you want to be!
Yeah, I think a 1500 will be good as an indicator of what shape you're in (a 3k might be even better but personally I probably would have chickened out and gone for an 8 if that option had been there!).
Still 5 or weeks to go but it's pretty non-stop once it starts...0 -
I think the Bs were won in around 4:20 last year, is that right?
I've run 4 1500s, I think, 3 Championship (all after an 800 a few hours earlier) and one National League so I'd like to experience a faster race where I could be dragged around to a quicker time.
Looks like the B's are generally won in 4.10 to 4.20 and the last 4-5 in the 'A' race would be in the 4.10 to 4.20 bracket too. Think I'll go for the 'B' race anyway. Going out too fast would kill me at this stage of the year. Must chat to the coach about getting some proper middle distance work done. Need some sharpening up, big time 0 -
KielyUnusual wrote: »Looks like the B's are generally won in 4.10 to 4.20 and the last 4-5 in the 'A' race would be in the 4.10 to 4.20 bracket too. Think I'll go for the 'B' race anyway. Going out too fast would kill me at this stage of the year. Must chat to the coach about getting some proper middle distance work done. Need some sharpening up, big time
Well, you have 5 weeks so see how your training goes - and the road relays - but you're probably selling yourself a bit short. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see you under 4:15 first time out and even much faster wouldn't surprise me. No pressure!
Your xc races and training shows that, aerobically, you're in great shape. That's the hard part! But you'll know more yourself once you've done a couple of 1500 sessions - and you'd expect them to be faster than your equivalent training last year so you have the speed, you just need to put some race pace work in; that and the races themselves will sharpen you up.0 -
KielyUnusual wrote: »Ooooh, a 1500 to kick things off. Was secretly hoping for a 3k like last year when I still have a bit of endurance from the XC but I won't complain.
Look forward to seeing you out there Sacksian. What grade for the 1500 are you thinking? Looks to be a bit of overlap between the A and the B in previous results for in and around the times we'd be anticipating. To be honest, I'm still not sure what that is for me.
Same day as my local County 5k road race, which is a mad quick course and loadsa local rivalry etc Ughhhhh. But track wins every time ha. Don't thin I've ever done an A 15 before but probably time to step up the grade.0 -
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