Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14

bren2001

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Ah, well in that case he got me! That's the problem with relying on you guys for info when I'm in work.

He said it. Full quote from the Guardian:

Was United the only option? "Man United is a massive club. In England it is the club with the most fans around the world. It is a big challenge for me. But I think everything is going to be fine, with the players that are going to come in in the summer."

Pro. F

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Ah, well in that case he got me! That's the problem with relying on you guys for info when I'm in work.

Turns out he was telling the truth. Colour me shocked.

Maximus Alexander

Pro. F wrote: »

Turns out he was telling the truth. Colour me shocked.

I can only hope that all those who were outraged about Rooney being made privy to the club's transfer plans are suitably disgusted that Mata was extended the same courtesy.

Nalz

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I can only hope that all those who were outraged about Rooney being made privy to the club's transfer plans are suitably disgusted that Mata was extended the same courtesy.

Moaners some of the posts belong in the PI section on here

Will I Amnt

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I can only hope that all those who were outraged about Rooney being made privy to the club's transfer plans are suitably disgusted that Mata was extended the same courtesy.

There's a difference between being made privy and demanding to know what players were being pursued.
I'd be a little outraged at the latter, no problem with the former if it's used to help negotiations.

Headshot

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I can only hope that all those who were outraged about Rooney being made privy to the club's transfer plans are suitably disgusted that Mata was extended the same courtesy.

You dont know what mata is been told, he could be echoing what Moyes has been saying for some time now about transfers.

Will I Amnt post above is on the money for me

Nalz

Will I Amnt wrote: »

There's a difference between being made privy and demanding to know what players were being pursued.
I'd be a little outraged at the latter, no problem with the former if it's used to help negotiations.

V

Very true, naming names and promising them to players is a bit OTT... then again the world is changing and modern footballers are changing

tallaghtmick

irishfeen wrote: »

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 19s
@WayneRooney, Marouane Fellaini and Robin van Persie all trained today ahead of #mufc vs @CardiffCityFC, David Moyes has confirmed.


Fcuking sweet - this day gets better

Roll on tomorrow and we hate each other after a draw :pac:

Joking Mata anytime think ill throw 5 on that

sReq | uTeK

Headshot wrote: »

You dont know what mata is been told, he could be echoing what Moyes has been saying for some time now about transfers.

Will I Amnt post above is on the money for me

yup, 100% on the money, I know for sure If i was in his position I would want to sign the best years of my life over without questioning what the club will be doing to get themselves out of the situation that they are in now......:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Here is a scenario for you, and lets talk about real world, you're the firms top employee, the company has gone through a bit of a transition period, your contract is expiring soon and offers of work would be easily obtained when you move on, the firm whats to renew your contract, do you happily nod away or ask for clarification of what they are going to do to get out of the slump, you have a wife, kids and all that goes with it to think about........honestly give me a break he's done what ANYONE in his potion would have done.

Maximus Alexander

Will I Amnt wrote: »

There's a difference between being made privy and demanding to know what players were being pursued.
I'd be a little outraged at the latter, no problem with the former if it's used to help negotiations.

Why would it be okay if it were used to help negotiations with Mata, but not so with Rooney? I don't see anything, apart from the full page hyperbole in the tabloids, to suggest it went any differently.

There's a good chance that both players simply said something along the lines of "I want to know what the club's plans are for the next couple of years before I will consider putting pen to paper".

Choosing to believe there is any difference between the two strikes me as deliberately looking for a stick to beat Rooney with.

bucketybuck

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I can only hope that all those who were outraged about Rooney being made privy to the club's transfer plans are suitably disgusted that Mata was extended the same courtesy.

I'll stand over anything I said because it applied to any player at the club.

Not that I was disgusted or outraged in the first place, I just have an opinion, not that this forum likes other peoples opinions all that much.

sReq | uTeK

bucketybuck wrote: »

I'll stand over anything I said because it applied to any player at the club.

Not that I was disgusted or outraged in the first place, I just have an opinion, not that this forum likes other peoples opinions all that much.

But you've criticized Moyes whilst pertaining Ferguson always put the club 1st over his personal success, which is blatantly incorrect as it was Ferguson in the 1st place who succumbed to Rooney's pandering.

Maximus Alexander

bucketybuck wrote: »

I'll stand over anything I said because it applied to any player at the club.

Not that I was disgusted or outraged in the first place, I just have an opinion, not that this forum likes other peoples opinions all that much.

If you weren't disgusted or outraged then my post wasn't directed at you.

Also, your implication that the forum doesn't like other people's opinions is in itself a slight on people's opinions.

keane2097

Wouldn't exactly be falling over myself to believe anything in Ferguson's eulogy to himself either.

Red Crow

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

What's happening with our shirt suppliers deal?

Arsenal just got a huge deal with Puma, 150 million over 5 years.

I think we're looking at doing the deal like Real Madrid. We can take a bigger slice of the profit that way.

RobertKK

MANU shares received a downgrade to a hold from a buy recommendation today by Deutsche Bank, and even I as a shareholder likes the reason why - concerns over players costs escalation as United chase talent.

Still the downgrade gives a share target price of $16 which is well above the current price.

Shares down over 3% today at the moment.

bucketybuck

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

But you've criticized Moyes whilst pertaining Ferguson always put the club 1st over his personal success, which is blatantly incorrect as it was Ferguson in the 1st place who succumbed to Rooney's pandering.

Horseshlt. Try reading what I actually said instead of what you think I said.

Red Crow

RobertKK wrote: »

MANU shares received a downgrade to a hold from a buy recommendation today by Deutsche Bank, and even I as a shareholder likes the reason why - concerns over players costs escalation as United chase talent.

Still the downgrade gives a share target price of $16 which is well above the current price.

Shares down over 3% today at the moment.

If you look at IPO's in general after an initial surge the next 5 years are typically characterised with poor performances. It's non-news really.

UnitedIrishman

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Any injury news for tommorow night, Fellaini/Rooney/RVP fit?

Rooney, RVP and Fellaini have all trained today ahead of tomorrow's game.

Moyes must read boards. Hi Dave!

Great to hear Mata speaking with such enthusiasm about joining us. Interesting to hear that there'll be more big moves made in the summer.

Mitch Connor

Red Crow wrote: »

I think we're looking at doing the deal like Real Madrid. We can take a bigger slice of the profit that way.

I would reckon their deal, which is comparable to the deal we signed with Nike about 12 years ago, will be dwarfed by the new deal we sign with whomever (Nike or Warrior I guess).

If we don't double what Arsenal are getting, I will be surprised.

The_Kew_Tour

Kroos is not a United target lads. Forget that one.

But its still fantastic that we have Mata. Seems all round class act too.

Whatsisname

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I would reckon their deal, which is comparable to the deal we signed with Nike about 12 years ago, will be dwarfed by the new deal we sign with whomever (Nike or Warrior I guess).

If we don't double what Arsenal are getting, I will be surprised.

Oh god...please no...

UnitedIrishman

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I would reckon their deal, which is comparable to the deal we signed with Nike about 12 years ago, will be dwarfed by the new deal we sign with whomever (Nike or Warrior I guess).

If we don't double what Arsenal are getting, I will be surprised.

Given our ability to secure the maximum payout from any commercial deals recently, I'd imagine our deal will be close to Barcelona's 35m euro a year deal with Nike.

The_Kew_Tour

:pac:

Ed Woodward NOT ‏ One reason we gave Mata no8 is because we will save over 50% more material when manufacturing compared to when it belonged to Anderson #MUFC

Trigger

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Kroos is not a United target lads. Forget that one.

Are you Future Guy in disguise

Red Crow

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I would reckon their deal, which is comparable to the deal we signed with Nike about 12 years ago, will be dwarfed by the new deal we sign with whomever (Nike or Warrior I guess).

If we don't double what Arsenal are getting, I will be surprised.

I'll have to relook at the Real Madrid deal again but I'm pretty sure that they get a huge percentage of shirt sales as opposed to a huge annual lump sum as Arsenal will be getting. So while Arsenal may recieve a higher annual lump sum from Puma than Real Madrid will receive from Adidas, Real Madrid will actually recieve more money overall as they retain a right to a certain percentage of shirt sales. I'm nearly 99% sure that Real Madrid manufacture their shirts in-house but Adidas maintain rights to design and use of their logo etc.

I don't see why we shouldn't be able to market, create and distribute our own shirts in Manchester and use Nike as a managing company like Real Madrid do with Adidas.

Again I may be wrong but essentially what Adidas do is pay a sponsorship fee to Real Madrid and have input on shirt design etc.

irishfeen

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Kroos is not a United target lads. Forget that one.

But its still fantastic that we have Mata. Seems all round class act too.

Expect anyone else to come in with 4 days left Kew?

The_Kew_Tour

irishfeen wrote: »

Expect anyone else to come in with 4 days left Kew?

I be still confident we will make 1 more signing. Might be LB or CM.

Lot of players linked, but I think we can all see United are still searching for a player or two more.

Fancy us to get 1 more and that might be it.

ericzeking

In terms of what Rooney or Mata know or are being told about future transfers, I'd imagine they are being told exactly what they want to hear with a view to getting them signed up, I would say what they have been told has absolutely no bearing on our future dealings.

Employers apease employees all the time, you know that boss that tells you how great you are and you will eventually get that pay rise....

Sure wasn't RVP told SAF was staying for 3 more years...next thing...bang, take that Robin I'm offski but you'll honour your contract sonny....

Mars Bar

Rio enjoy the "banter" with Adnan on instagram over the Nando's thing

http://instagram.com/p/jrVRWhNg0_/

TheDoc

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Kroos is not a United target lads. Forget that one.

But its still fantastic that we have Mata. Seems all round class act too.

Maximus Alexander

ericzeking wrote: »

In terms of what Rooney or Mata know or are being told about future transfers, I'd imagine they are being told exactly what they want to hear with a view to getting them signed up, I would say what they have been told has absolutely no bearing on our future dealings.

Employers apease employees all the time, you know that boss that tells you how great you are and you will eventually get that pay rise....

Sure wasn't RVP told SAF was staying for 3 more years...next thing...bang, take that Robin I'm offski but you'll honour your contract sonny....

While there might be an element of that, you can only take it so far. The last thing you want is upset in the dressing room, players agitating for moves and the fallout bleeding on to the pitch. It would be very short sighted to outright lie to them in order to get a signature.

The_Kew_Tour

TheDoc wrote: »

Still in a Bayern shirt:P

irishfeen

Mars Bar wrote: »

Rio enjoy the "banter" with Adnan on instagram over the Nando's thing

http://instagram.com/p/jrVRWhNg0_/

Adnan is obviously a smart little boy - treating her mean to find out if she would go to the papers with the story... what a legend.

Mitch Connor

UnitedIrishman wrote: »

Given our ability to secure the maximum payout from any commercial deals recently, I'd imagine our deal will be close to Barcelona's 35m euro a year deal with Nike.

That wouldn't represent any sort of increase on the current deal (would be below it, as far as I know - based on what Nike pay us now rather than the original figure (the figure increased per year).

Julez

Mars Bar wrote: »

Rio enjoy the "banter" with Adnan on instagram over the Nando's thing

http://instagram.com/p/jrVRWhNg0_/

Whats the context behind this?

Mars Bar

Julez wrote: »

Whats the context behind this?

Last year, Adnan brought a girl on a date to Nando's, he wore a tracksuit, paid £18 for her meal, then to a 3 star hotel to watch X Factor and had her contribute £5 for parking for when his mum picked him up at 9 p.m.

She decided to wait 'til now to sell the story.

There is now a #JanuzajIsTheTypeOfGuy trend on Twitter!

Julez

Mars Bar wrote: »

Last year, Adnan brought a girl on a date to Nando's, he wore a tracksuit, paid £18 for her meal, then to a 3 star hotel to watch X Factor and had her contribute £5 for parking for when his mum picked him up at 9 p.m.

She decided to wait 'til now to sell the story.

There is now a #JanuzajIsTheTypeOfGuy trend on Twitter!

Ah OK, never heard about that, also, should have Googled, lazy on my part. Does she think that going to the papers is any better than bringing someone to Nandos on a date?

MagicMarker

Ah in fairness Adnan was probably only on 50k a year back then.....

Lord TSC

Ha, is that true?

I love that the expose on him is "He took me to a hotel....and then watched X Factor, before his Mom picked him up!"

RasTa

Mars Bar wrote: »

Last year, Adnan brought a girl on a date to Nando's, he wore a tracksuit, paid £18 for her meal, then to a 3 star hotel to watch X Factor and had her contribute £5 for parking for when his mum picked him up at 9 p.m.

She decided to wait 'til now to sell the story.

There is now a #JanuzajIsTheTypeOfGuy trend on Twitter!

Gold digger test failed. Excellent work Adnan. He would have being 17 too, she looks a bit older.

The_Kew_Tour

I so believe it too.

I also heard Pigs can fly too in same paper.

intellectual dosser

X Factor....yeah sure.

Kerrydude1981

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Ha, is that true?

I love that the expose on him is "He took me to a hotel....and then watched X Factor, before his Mom picked him up!"

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/adnan-januzaj-gets-50-nandos-6598676?

Twitter reaction from other players.

KH25

So he went to a place where a lot of young people would go for a date. That's a shock....I really don't get why things like that sell papers...(although the bit about his mother is kinda funny :P)

v3ttel

‘I expected him to come to me in a flashy car, but I ended up driving him about in my old blue Fiesta and I was left to pay and display. Then he said he was taking me to Nando’s – my face fell.

‘I usually go there for a quick bite to eat with my mates. I didn’t expect to be going there on a date with a Man United footballer, especially in my dress and heels.’

Footballer in not being a flash git shocker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOxb_SW4Cfg

Maximus Alexander

RasTa wrote: »

Gold digger test failed. Excellent work Adnan. He would have being 17 too, she looks a bit older.

Yeah she was (or is?) 25 according to the papers. Pathetic stuff.

shadowcomplex

I wonder who their keeping no 7 for ?:)

jonnyfingers

I just don't understand that Adnan story, it just doesn't make sense.

Why would he go to Nando's? It's way too overpriced. Should have brought her to Favourite Fried Chicken, you'd get a Combo Meal for about £5.

Lucas Hood

Your woman is 25 and she's going out with 18 year olds. I'm 25 now if I did that I'd never hear the end of it off my mates.