Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14

Montroseee

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

As much as people will say Vidic should have stayed on, it should be balanced by the fact Raf should have been gone after him.

Yet more poor preformances, bad team selections....but what's the point of complaining. Moyes is bulletproof for some reason, so has absolutely no reason to actually turn things round.

Such stupidity, over course he wants to turn it around.

keane2097

I dislike this "cancer" stuff immensely. Unsavoury way to go on.

masti123

Not a straight red that. But a completely pointless challenge! Players not helping the situation. Feel sorry for Moyes

Kirby

Headshot wrote: »

I cant stand anymore what he's doing to my club.

You should sack him then. Surely that's your job as an owner.

bucketybuck

Meh. We all knew this was coming once the team was announced.

The defense changed yet again. Valencia picked yet again. Kagawa does well last week and gets dropped. Jones straight into midfield after injury. An 18 year old in the playmaker position against Chelsea. Young picked again. Hernandez ignored yet again.

Moyes really needs to cop the **** on. But he won't, it will be the same sthite on Wednesday.

Is Moyes trying to get the "siege mentality" so that even United's own fans are against them?

Inspector Coptoor

Chagan wrote: »

The internet went on the bus so I missed the last three minutes or so. What did Rafael do? Sounds nasty whatever it was.

Nasty, late, two footed challenge

United are in shambles.

They were 4-1 to win the match before kick off.

Really have gone to the dogs.

Huge number of players need to be sold.

The bench today was pathetic in comparison to Chelsea's.
Giggs, Fletcher, Cleverly, Fabio, Rafael, Nani, Tony V, Smallinfg, I could go on, none if these players should have a united jersey.

blueshed

how long is big Dave going to put up with the sh1te in front of him, i fear one of the big Spanish clubs will come looking for him.

btw im on about our keeper and not our manager

Irish94

Headshot wrote: »

I despise what David Moyes has done to my club. He truly is a cancer that needs to be eradicated

I know well the players are that good but there is no excuse to how ****ing bad we are. You cant blame the players ****ing dreadful tactics, you cant blame the players for awful team selection and you cant blame them a piss poor transfer window.

I cant stand anymore what he's doing to my club.

What was wrong with both today? Or are you talking in general?

At this stage I wouldn't mind not beating Sunderland because we will be hammered in the final by City if we did get through.

Quandary

Depressing -

our performances this season
our tactics
our team selections
constantly persisting with dross players like Young and Valencia
our injuries (not Moyes fault 99% of the time)

If he doesn't sign anyone this window to try and boost the squad and we end up missing out on top 4 then Moyes should go.

Hank Scorpio

imagine if Everton get 4th

Lucas Hood

We've lost 4 of our last 5 games that's ridiculous.

irishfeen

Am I the only one who believes that on another day we could have got a draw out of that? ... lack of guile up front is astonishing.

Lord TSC

irishfeen wrote: »

Am I the only one who believes that on another day we could have got a draw out of that? ... lack of guile up front is astonishing.

We can't talk about ifs and buts, we can only talk about how we're actually doing. And right now, we are doing horribly. There's no prizes handed out for effort at the end of the season.

RobertKK

Moyes built a very good team for Martinez to takeover at Everton.

Writing him off is silly.

J. Marston

Chagan wrote: »

The internet went on the bus so I missed the last three minutes or so. What did Rafael do? Sounds nasty whatever it was.

Won me a few Euro, the petulant little child.

Saucy McKetchup

Lucas Hood wrote: »

We've lost 4 of our last 5 games that's ridiculous.

We've won 5 of our last 7 premier league games. Stop being a tabloid.

adox

keane2097 wrote: »

I dislike this "cancer" stuff immensely. Unsavoury way to go on.

Why?

irishfeen

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

We can't talk about ifs and buts, we can only talk about how we're actually doing. And right now, we are doing horribly. There's no prizes handed out for effort at the end of the season.

Of course but we were missing RVP and Rooney - first goal was a real killer and totally against the run of play.

Saucy McKetchup

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

We've won 5 of our last 7 premier league games. Stop being a tabloid.

Or 5 of the last 11.

IvySlayer

RobertKK wrote: »

Moyes built a very good team for Martinez to takeover at Everton.

Writing him off is silly.

Good, but not great. Not United standard.

Moyes lacked the ability to bring them further. 11 years, no trophies. No winning mentality that United needs now more than ever.

keeponhurling

Given United are reigning champions and are one of the richest clubs in the world, I really don't think mid table is good enough.

However more inaction by Moyes in this transfer window tacitly suggests things are good enough as they are.

irishfeen

zorro2566 wrote: »

At this stage I wouldn't mind not beating Sunderland because we will be hammered in the final by City if we did get through.

Get to fcuk ... :mad:

RobertKK

adox wrote: »

Why?

David Moyes is not a cancer. Cancer is a very serious disease that can kill people.
Moyes is not potentially killing anyone and calling him a cancer is making little of those who are fighting the disease.

andyman

RobertKK wrote: »

Moyes built a very good team for Martinez to takeover at Everton.

Writing him off is silly.

Yeah, and Martinez has gotten the best out of those players in a completely different style while making Barkley the focus of the team as well as selling one of the best players Moyes used and making three excellent signings in McCarthy, Barry and Lukaku.

Everton have looked like a much better team this season than they ever did under Moyes

Rayne Wooney

RobertKK wrote: »

David Moyes is not a cancer. Cancer is a very serious disease that can kill people.
Moyes is not potentially killing anyone and calling him a cancer is making little of those who are fighting the disease.

That's not the only use of the word though.

It can be used the way headshot used it, it's not a dig at the disease.

People are getting easily outraged.

Johner

Unlucky today lads, thought you played very well in the first half but some bad defending cost a few silly goals. RVP and Rooney back and I'd bet on United to finish top 4. I'm happy Hernandez didn't start.

WallyGUFC

Surely if Moyes doesn't sign a few players now we won't get top 4. And surely that would be the end of him unless we win the Champions League? He's destroying the club. He is a poor manager.

sky88

Looking at goals again the players are making so many easy mistakes

Lord TSC

RobertKK wrote: »

David Moyes is not a cancer. Cancer is a very serious disease that can kill people.
Moyes is not potentially killing anyone and calling him a cancer is making little of those who are fighting the disease.

Listen, I get what you're saying. But it's obvious he's using it as an adjective in a metaphorical way and doesn't mean any disrespect to anyone who is sick. So rather than trying to pick apart an argument because of the metaphor being chosen and calling political correctness, can we not stick to actually discussing Moyes and the damage he's doing or not doing at the club?

adox

RobertKK wrote: »

David Moyes is not a cancer. Cancer is a very serious disease that can kill people.
Moyes is not potentially killing anyone and calling him a cancer is making little of those who are fighting the disease.

Ah would ya go ask me bollix. I ****ing know what cancer is and I don't see the problem with using the word as a description of his tenure at Utd.


Making little of those fighting the disease. GTFO.

magnumbud

irishfeen wrote: »

Am I the only one who believes that on another day we could have got a draw out of that? ... lack of guile up front is astonishing.

100% agree. could certainly have been a different game with RVP and/or rooney playing too. 4 or 5 good chances created that nobody got on the end of as welbeck kept dropping back further in the box rather than getting in front of goal and valencia should have been coming in the back post. first half i just couldnt believe we were 2 nil down given how we had played. arguably should have had a peno for the challenge on welbeck when he shot straight at cech. sickened. didnt expect much from today but the first half was giving me hope. was probably the best back 4 we could have played even with an ageing evra at left back carrick and jones were doing an ok job but jones looked off the pace a bit. januzaj was class again but nobody else (until hernandez came on) was up to it up front. first goal the deflection certainly gave them a huge bit of luck other 2 goals were poorly defended

Will I Amnt

RobertKK wrote: »

David Moyes is not a cancer. Cancer is a very serious disease that can kill people.
Moyes is not potentially killing anyone and calling him a cancer is making little of those who are fighting the disease.

That's bollox tbh. It's perfectly acceptable to use as a descriptive term.

Rayne Wooney

13 days left and 200m warchest gathering dust

Headshot

Irish94 wrote: »

What was wrong with both today? Or are you talking in general?

General and today for team selection. Playing Jones who is only back from injury is terrible managing. I cant get over that decision tbh, what is he thinking?

Also you could say tactics too. Playing Jan so far up the field during the first half is ridiculous. I felt is fair stupid to leave Valencia on the field, he should of came off instead of Young and put on Jan on the right and Young on the left.

MagicIRL

keane2097 wrote: »

I dislike this "cancer" stuff immensely. Unsavoury way to go on.

Rule #1 on this thread is to ignore everything Headshot says. The ignore button is great for that.

madcabbage

People need to stop with the Moyes trash talk, we were unfortunate today in a game where we we're missing RVP/Rooney against a team we haven't had much luck against on their turf!
Could have walked with a draw had we been more clinical and not conceded so early in the manner in which we did.

beno619

irishfeen wrote: »

Get to fcuk ... :mad:

He has a point, we don't need the Europa and we don't need to get embarrassed by City.

I'd rather concentrate on trying to claw 4th place.

Your Airbag

J. Marston wrote: »

Toddle off to Galatasaray, Vidic.

I'd prefer you to toddle off the thread.

jimjamcos

RobertKK wrote: »

Moyes built a very good team for Martinez to takeover at Everton.

Writing him off is silly.

That's pushing it a bit. Barry, McCarthy, Lukaku and Barkley (rarely played under Moyes) are all Martinez projects. Coleman and Miralles are also much better players under Martinez.

Howard, Jag & Distin, Baines and Fellaini were absolutely key to Moyes' Everton. Not the case now.

magnumbud

adox wrote: »

Ah would ya go ask me bollix. I ****ing know what cancer is and I don't see the problem with using the word as a description of his tenure at Utd.


Making little of those fighting the disease. GTFO.

maybe you dont mind it but some people who have lost people to that(myself included) may not appreciate it being used in such a way.

RobertKK

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

That's not the only use of the word though.

It can be used the way headshot used it, it's not a dig at the disease.

People are getting easily outraged.

I don't like anyone being called a cancer, it is writing them off as being irredeemably bad, a thing that will never do any good but will work to hurt one.

In every sense it is wrong to call Moyes a cancer, he doesn't go out to make Man Utd lose.

Headshot

RobertKK wrote: »

I don't like anyone being called a cancer, it is writing them off as being irredeemably bad, a thing that will never do any good but will work to hurt one.

In every sense it is wrong to call Moyes a cancer, he doesn't go out to make Man Utd lose.

Dont be so precious

Will I Amnt

irishfeen wrote: »

Am I the only one who believes that on another day we could have got a draw out of that? ... lack of guile up front is astonishing.

Not having Rooney and RvP available is killing us. Pathetic up front.
Take the 2 best attacking players out of any team and they will have problems.

Lord TSC

madcabbage wrote: »

People need to stop with the Moyes trash talk, we were unfortunate today...

But it's not just today, despite how the people defending Moyes constantly want to limit the discussion to the last 90 minutes. It's not just this game, it's this season as a whole, including the games, the transfer windows...everything. Every aspect of his "reign" as manager.

We were unfortunate today, and against Sunderland, and West Brom, and Everton, and Newcastle.....at some stage, we have to stop calling it bad fortune and start calling it a trend.

RobertKK

Headshot wrote: »

Dont be so precious

But is there anything good about cancer, are you saying everything about Moyes is bad?

edgecutter

irishfeen wrote: »

Am I the only one who believes that on another day we could have got a draw out of that? ... lack of guile up front is astonishing.

Ifs, buts and maybes. We weren't good enough today and that has been a reoccurring theme this year. Poor selection today by Moyes. I felt the eleven that played well last week should have started.

Timmyctc

Vidic absolutely should not have been sent off. Farcical decision. Meanwhile Azpi and Luiz go unpunished for a clear foul in the penalty box and leading with an arm into a united player respectively. So much going down easy from Tony V today. Football is becoming a non contact sport lads.

irishfeen

beno619 wrote: »

He has a point, we don't need the Europa and we don't need to get embarrassed by City.

I'd rather concentrate on trying to claw 4th place.

Ah for fcuk sake - are you for real? ... so you'd prefer not to be in the final of a cup competition? - I've heard it all now! Manchester United being afraid to play City my hole! .... we'll beat the fcukers!