Operation Transformation 2014

brownej

Hanley wrote: »

Cliff notes?!

1:Week one implementation of the website was ****e! Site was down more than up.
2: Some people think that the demographics on the show are not balanced. Too many mothers in thier 30s/40s
3: The show is full of whingers unwilling/able to make any changes even though they signed up for the show
4: Everyone on the show is a brave soul and change is difficult and they should all be applauded.
5: Some people are more whingy than others. No preparation or lack of willingness to put work into the changes examples cited for Siobahn, Deirdre and Marc.
6: The quality of the recipes are poor. No calorie info or macro infor provided.

I think that covers the main points of discussion on here so far.

Magenta

I agree, the leaders are just blindly following recipes and not learning anything about nutrition. Plenty of foods that "look" healthy are high in calories. Nuts, butter, etc.

For anyone that wants to know the nutritional info of the recipes, plenty of websites such as SparkRecipes do this for you if you type the ingredients in.

SamAK

bluewolf wrote: »

Jesus no, they'd be telling them to eat more bread and bowls of pasta

Funny you should say that, I love my pasta

Hanley

brownej wrote: »

1:Week one implementation of the website was ****e! Site was down more than up.
2: Some people think that the demographics on the show are not balanced. Too many mothers in thier 30s/40s
3: The show is full of whingers unwilling/able to make any changes even though they signed up for the show
4: Everyone on the show is a brave soul and change is difficult and they should all be applauded.
5: Some people are more whingy than others. No preparation or lack of willingness to put work into the changes examples cited for Siobahn, Deirdre and Marc.
6: The quality of the recipes are poor. No calorie info or macro infor provided.

I think that covers the main points of discussion on here so far.

Appreciate that a lot. Sounds like they don't give a **** about change. Just entertainment.

brownej

Hanley wrote: »

Appreciate that a lot. Sounds like they don't give a **** about change. Just entertainment.

Yes it would appear that it is mostly about entertainment. The participants have been selected so that the audience can form some sort of emotional attachment to them. They all have some sort of backstory that has sent them on an emotional journey into obestiy.
The show shares the unseemly and disturbing traits of the Biggest looser series where the participants are paraded around in their underwear for a weigh in and then are berated by a panel of "experts". The purpose of the show appears to be to poke the fatties until they cry for the entertainment of the 100s of thousands of viewers so that they can feel superior in their own lives.

Reading through this thread would appear to validate this assumption.

Its not all bad. They are providing recipes and exercises that can be found online. The TV show itself does not really focus on these or provide any meaningful substance to the exercise and food. The segments on the TV show for exercise appear to revolve around trying to make the fat girl run and then watching her keel over. The food portions are worse as they just show a whole lot of whinging about dislike of veggies and that the meals take forever to make (they actually don't).

I hope as it progresses that they go into more detail about the health and exercises on the TV, instead of focussing on the emotional issues of the contestants for our entertainment.

The website isn't too bad. It details the exercises for each day and the food plans. However it does not give a forward plan and is updated a day at a time which makes it quite impractical to follow at home (unless you start a week later).

The major postive I see for the show is the local community events that are organised around it by local sports partnerships. This is by far and away the best thing about the programme as it gets people all over the country out and active and gives them something to aim for.

Stone Deaf 4evr

Im on the fence with this series, In fairness, changing the habits of a lifetime is hard, same as quitting smoking etc, but in order to make these changes successfully, you have to WANT to change.

it seems to me like a few of the contestants are finding it difficult to make the effort required - which is pretty disappointing as I'm sure there are plenty who would gladly take the coaching they're getting.

SamAK

If this chap can do it........

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-drank-24-cans-of-fizzy-drinks-a-day-now-im-half-the-man-i-was-29902413.html

Well done him!

brownej

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Im on the fence with this series, In fairness, changing the habits of a lifetime is hard, same as quitting smoking etc, but in order to make these changes successfully, you have to WANT to change.

it seems to me like a few of the contestants are finding it difficult to make the effort required - which is pretty disappointing as I'm sure there are plenty who would gladly take the coaching they're getting.

I agree. But I blame the show as much as the participants. They signed up for the show under the not unreasonable assumption that they would be provided extensive support. The TV episodes that I have seen do not appear to support that. They mostly appear to get their exercise programmes via youtube and the recipes via a printout just like the rest of the people following the show.
Some of the participants appear that they would benefit from much more intensive supprt from the trainer and nutrionist. This support could taper off as the show progresses. But this is RTE so its all done on the cheap.

vitani

One of the leaders mentioned on Facebook that she was getting the recipes through the app on her phone, so only saw each day's recipes that morning. So obviously, that's not ideal in terms of planning.

The show really should give them printouts of everything at the start of the week. But then again, your one could have visited the actual website and found the food plans and shopping lists for the full week herself. I think both sides need to meet in the middle a bit more.

Santa Cruz

The "Get your head out of the slops bucket" diet is very successful.

SamAK

Thoughts?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/operation-transformation-leader-paudie-told-to-pull-back-on-weight-loss-efforts-255924.html

ncmc

A similar thing happened a couple of years ago, one of the leaders was doing extra work outs, eating less calories etc and was told to ease off a bit. The whole idea of being a leader is not just your own weight loss, but that you are an example to the people following you, so they don’t want a leader going out and doing 3 hours in the gym because that isn’t doable for most people. Funnily enough, the previous contestant they had to say that to was also a former sportsman IIRC, so must be something in the sports person mentality to push themselves further.

vitani

It's a nice change to the Biggest Loser and shows like that where they're forced to do unsustainable levels of exercise, to the point of puking and/or collapse. I still watch (and enjoy) those shows, but I like Operation Transformation because it seems sustainable and manageable for the average person.

Sam Kade

The wine drinker cum cook :rolleyes: full of self pity.

Why don't they bring back previous years contestants and let us see what impact the show had on them. I know a woman that was on 2 years ago and she went back on the fags and has gained all the weight she had lost during the show.

It's great to get a lot of people out walking but when the series ends the walkers just slump back into their sofas again.

vitani

It's terrible of me, but I laughed at 'my daughter was sitting in the window with a photo of me'.

Sam Kade

vitani wrote: »

It's terrible of me, but I laughed at 'my daughter was sitting in the window with a photo of me'.

Not terrible at all. The woman is deluded.

Sam Kade

Sam Kade wrote: »

It's great to get a lot of people out walking but when the series ends the walkers just slump back into their sofas again.

I still find it surprising how quickly the numbers in the gym fall off through January.

ncmc

The wine woman or whine woman more accurately needs a good kick up the ar*e. Her comments last night were a joke, her daughter waiting at the window with a photo while she went for a 30 min walk??? Give me a break. Saying she was missing out on time with her kids because she was cooking? Does she not realise how that makes her sound? I'm sure she has seen the show before, she must know it involves cooking from scratch and exercising. As programs go, it's actually not that challenging. It annoys me to hear her moan and complain after two weeks when there were thousands of others who would have loved the chance she's getting.

Here's an idea, how about you don't let your children maul the chicken or pour sugar all over the place while you're cooking. Put them at the table with some colouring where you can supervise them and still spend time with them. Stop blaming everyone and everything else for your weight. Get on with it and take advantage of the great opportunity you've been given. Funny how she had time to drink a bottle of wine every night but doesn't have time to cook a meal.

Glad to see the other two last night doing so well, you can see the weight loss on them already. Although there is no persuading that girl to give up the smokes!

Alf Veedersane

If I didn't know anything about the show and only listened to her interview, I'd have said she'd been sent away to some 'bootcamp' the way she went on.

Ironically, she wants to have her cake and eat it.

kennM

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

Alf Veedersane

kennM wrote: »

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

The other working mothers on the show have kids.

They don't seem to complain as much about what is expected of them on the show.

runawaybishop

kennM wrote: »

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

Indeed, if you do not have kids then you will be unaware that it is essential they are allowed to throw a tantrum in the kitchen as they feck sugar all over the floor.

The parents need a good kick up the hole.

LuckyLloyd

kennM wrote: »

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

You owe it to your kids to stay fit and healthy and lead by example in that regard imo.

Typer Monkey

kennM wrote: »

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

I do and I work 10 hour shifts..11 including the commute. Why she can't cook the next days dinner when the kids go to bed I don't know. She seems incapable of forward planning, or controlling her children. She says 'of course the children want to help' like it's a given that they be allowed throw stuff all over the kitchen and maul raw chicken.

I don't think she wants to change. Why on earth would making dinner take an hour and a half??? What was she feeding her children beforehand? The programme really needs to help her with planning and organising..and having a positive attitude!

ncmc

kennM wrote: »

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

Oh goodie, this old chestnut. If you don’t have kids, you aren’t allowed comment on anybody who does. Well I’ll start, no, I don’t have kids (pregnant with my first if you’re interested) but most of my friends, family and acquaintances have. In fact, the vast majority of people my age (and the age of the woman in question) do have kids. Of the people I know, the vast majority work a full time job as well as being parents. Some also are carers for special needs children; one also looks after a parent with Alzheimer’s. Not one of them has tantrums and tears when they have to cook a meal or go out for a 30 minute walk. I have seen friends and family with children cook dinner, never have I seen the children get involved to the degree that they are allowed stand on a chair, put sugar all over the floor, teabags in the toaster and handle raw chicken. The vast majority of working mothers that I know can still manage to cook a somewhat healthy meal for their family without having a meltdown.

Your argument is complete nonsense and frankly the last of defence of someone trying to defend the indefensible!

vitani

kennM wrote: »

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

If you really need to know, I'm a single mother who works full time. I'm also currently training for my second half-marathon, and for my lunch today, I brought in a chicken and lentil dish that I prepared last night after my daughter went to bed.

Yes, that's an obnoxious reply, but it's to a fairly obnoxious question.

kennM

ncmc wrote: »

Oh goodie, this old chestnut. If you don’t have kids, you aren’t allowed comment on anybody who does. Well I’ll start, no, I don’t have kids (pregnant with my first if you’re interested) but most of my friends, family and acquaintances have. In fact, the vast majority of people my age (and the age of the woman in question) do have kids. Of the people I know, the vast majority work a full time job as well as being parents. Some also are carers for special needs children; one also looks after a parent with Alzheimer’s. Not one of them has tantrums and tears when they have to cook a meal or go out for a 30 minute walk. I have seen friends and family with children cook dinner, never have I seen the children get involved to the degree that they are allowed stand on a chair, put sugar all over the floor, teabags in the toaster and handle raw chicken. The vast majority of working mothers that I know can still manage to cook a somewhat healthy meal for their family without having a meltdown.

Your argument is complete nonsense and frankly the last of defence of someone trying to defend the indefensible!

I haven't put forward any argument whatsoever. I asked a question, that was it. Some of the comments I've seen on here range anywhere between (a) un-sympathetic (b) judgmental (c) ignorant to the realities some people have in their lives (d) abusive.

I also have close friends who have incredibly challenging family situations... I'm sure if you recorded ANYONE going through that show 24 hours a day you'd be able to edit a short piece and make it look any way you want to look. Not saying that's what has happened but a possibility. They could be highlighting the "bad" points perhaps?

IMO people going through the show should be supported and helped to change their life, not sit back and abuse them for having the bottle to do so.

Typer Monkey wrote: »

I do and I work 10 hour shifts..11 including the commute. Why she can't cook the next days dinner when the kids go to bed I don't know. She seems incapable of forward planning, or controlling her children. She says 'of course the children want to help' like it's a given that they be allowed throw stuff all over the kitchen and maul raw chicken.

I don't think she wants to change. Why on earth would making dinner take an hour and a half??? What was she feeding her children beforehand? The programme really needs to help her with planning and organising..and having a positive attitude!

I think that point came across in last nights show where they came out with the weekly planner to allocate time slots for certain things to ensure it all happens.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

You owe it to your kids to stay fit and healthy and lead by example in that regard imo.

Absolutely agree with you 100%. Great point! and I think some leaders have room for improvement there.

runawaybishop wrote: »

Indeed, if you do not have kids then you will be unaware that it is essential they are allowed to throw a tantrum in the kitchen as they feck sugar all over the floor.

The parents need a good kick up the hole.

Who are you to judge someone else!!! how do you know a child doesn't have behavioral issues or medical issues that have been undisclosed on the show. Would I let my child do that? no. Are my kids angels who never do anything wrong? Does anyone have kids like that?

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The other working mothers on the show have kids.

They don't seem to complain as much about what is expected of them on the show.

I would tend to agree with you but everyones circumstances are different... even the different leaders on the show. It may have been edited that way, she may be going through a tough time in work etc. at the same time.

I think it would be completely artificial if the show just broadcast the leaders being 100% upbeat and positive all of the time and delighted about the changes and challenges they are going through.

kennM

vitani wrote: »

If you really need to know, I'm a single mother who works full time. I'm also currently training for my second half-marathon, and for my lunch today, I brought in a chicken and lentil dish that I prepared last night after my daughter went to bed.

Yes, that's an obnoxious reply, but it's to a fairly obnoxious question.

Credit to you vitani.... well done....

Not an obnoxious question, not meant that way at all.... trying to understand peoples viewpoints. As I'm sure you'll agree your life pre children and post children goes through some radical changes. You've photos in your wallet where there used to be money, the idea of spare time goes on a serious diet etc.

Some of the comments have been quite disrespectful etc... I've gone into a little more detail in reply above.

ncmc

Personally, I am unsympathetic because of the way she acted after last week’s show (which it showed last night) crying, throwing a tantrum, blaming the eating and exercise program on her not getting time to spend with her kids. She was blaming everything and everybody but herself for her disastrous eating and exercise regime. I know weight loss is challenging, I know healthy eating can be a massive change for people, I know how time consuming training for something can be. But I have zero sympathy for whiners and moaners who do everything except take responsibility for their actions.

runawaybishop

kennM wrote: »

Who are you to judge someone else!!! how do you know a child doesn't have behavioral issues or medical issues that have been undisclosed on the show. Would I let my child do that? no. Are my kids angels who never do anything wrong? Does anyone have kids like that?

I'll judge whoever I want, thanks. Someone allowing their kid to stick teabags into a toaster (fire hazard) or play with raw chicken (serious health risk) needs a good dose of cop the **** on.

Alf Veedersane

kennM wrote: »

I would tend to agree with you but everyones circumstances are different... even the different leaders on the show. It may have been edited that way, she may be going through a tough time in work etc. at the same time.

I think it would be completely artificial if the show just broadcast the leaders being 100% upbeat and positive all of the time and delighted about the changes and challenges they are going through.

It's no surprise to anyone that applied what is required of them. She's being a little over-dramatic about having to do anything.

She made out she had to spend her whole Sunday cooking dinner. I very much doubt that was the case.

I've no issue with her finding it hard but if she always makes excuses for why she shouldn't make that extra bit of effort, she'll never get anywhere.

kennM

ncmc wrote: »

Personally, I am unsympathetic because of the way she acted after last week’s show (which it showed last night) crying, throwing a tantrum, blaming the eating and exercise program on her not getting time to spend with her kids. She was blaming everything and everybody but herself for her disastrous eating and exercise regime. I know weight loss is challenging, I know healthy eating can be a massive change for people, I know how time consuming training for something can be. But I have zero sympathy for whiners and moaners who do everything except take responsibility for their actions.

I would tend to agree with you to a point.... I think the show also picked up on that and stepped in to help her with her planning to be able to fit everything in. IMO the initial raft of changes that came in with the show, on top of her already hectic schedule, got on top of her which lead to what we saw. I would suspect next week should see an improvement. If it doesn't I'll be sharing the exact same viewpoint

kennM

runawaybishop wrote: »

I'll judge whoever I want, thanks. Someone allowing their kid to stick teabags into a toaster (fire hazard) or play with raw chicken (serious health risk) needs a good dose of cop the **** on.

I think we'd put it different ways but same end result.... shouldn't happen.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It's no surprise to anyone that applied what is required of them. She's being a little over-dramatic about having to do anything.

She made out she had to spend her whole Sunday cooking dinner. I very much doubt that was the case.

I've no issue with her finding it hard but if she always makes excuses for why she shouldn't make that extra bit of effort, she'll never get anywhere.

I think my other reply above covers a response to this... I personally think the level of change has overwhelmed her at first and was at sixes and sevens.

Alf Veedersane

kennM wrote: »

I think my other reply above covers a response to this... I personally think the level of change has overwhelmed her at first and was at sixes and sevens.

When can we expect her to stop whingeing about making an effort and making excuses not to?

She has the look of someone who'll be back at square one not long after the show ends.

runawaybishop

kennM wrote: »

I think we'd put it different ways but same end result.... shouldn't happen.

Agreed. I think a lot of the issues they/she has are self inflicted. I guess that's to be expected though. She needs to understand that laying blame around will accomplish nothing. If she wants to improve her health she needs to get organised.

vitani

kennM wrote: »

Credit to you vitani.... well done....

Not an obnoxious question, not meant that way at all.... trying to understand peoples viewpoints. As I'm sure you'll agree your life pre children and post children goes through some radical changes. You've photos in your wallet where there used to be money, the idea of spare time goes on a serious diet etc.

Some of the comments have been quite disrespectful etc... I've gone into a little more detail in reply above.

Oh, absolutely, and apologies if I took you up wrong. And to be fair, I have a lot of family support or else I'm sure I'd be finding things a lot more difficult.

Yes, it's a massive change once you have kids. Especially when you're working and trying to do things for yourself as well, the balancing act can be hard to get right and there's a lot of things I've had to let fall by the wayside to meet other obligations.

My 'issue', if you want to call it that, with your one is that she doesn't seem to get it. She mentioned being a yo-yo dieter and consistently losing and gaining the same weight over and over again. So the show shouldn't be about losing weight for her - we already know that she can do that. She already knows that she can do that. It's about changing her lifestyle so that the weight can stay off in the long-term, and so far, she hasn't shown any desire to make those changes.

kennM

vitani wrote: »

Oh, absolutely, and apologies if I took you up wrong. And to be fair, I have a lot of family support or else I'm sure I'd be finding things a lot more difficult.

Yes, it's a massive change once you have kids. Especially when you're working and trying to do things for yourself as well, the balancing act can be hard to get right and there's a lot of things I've had to let fall by the wayside to meet other obligations.

My 'issue', if you want to call it that, with your one is that she doesn't seem to get it. She mentioned being a yo-yo dieter and consistently losing and gaining the same weight over and over again. So the show shouldn't be about losing weight for her - we already know that she can do that. She already knows that she can do that. It's about changing her lifestyle so that the weight can stay off in the long-term, and so far, she hasn't shown any desire to make those changes.

No problem vitani,

Seriously credit to you for going for second half marathon and being disciplined on food. I think the key thing for her (And for the others but not emphasized so much on the show) is that it needs to be sustainable..... they got after Paudi in a different context but same theme.... sustainability.

The key is going to be changing the lifestyle to make the changes viable long term. Will some leaders lose their way and bounce back up weight wise, possibly... I hope not for their sake. If people can replace the bad habits with good habits then it no longer becomes a challenge/chore... it becomes the norm and thats the ultimate end result, it prevents the problem rather than treating the symptoms of the problem (Symptom being weigh gain - problem diet, exercise).

Hopefully the planning help they provided will see a positive change this week for her.

Tasden

I don't understand why she doesn't take the younger one out in the buggy for her runs/walks and let the dad prepare the meals with the older one as bonding time. Why have a packed kitchen with a baby and all that hassle, she's looking for excuses. Also if she had enough time for wine previously she should be cooking during those drinking hours and keeping it in the fridge for tomorrows dinner, then there's no fuss at dinnertime.
I physically cringed seeing the child touch the chicken.

Dtp1979

I wonder if she's reading any of this?

Tasden

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I wonder if she's reading any of this?

If she has enough time to read boards she has enough time to cook!

Alf Veedersane

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I wonder if she's reading any of this?

Probably not.

It's hard to see through tears of self-pity.

Seve OB

kennM wrote: »

@vitani, @Sam Kade, @ncmc, @Alf Veedersane - Any of you have kids?

FTR, yes I am a parent, an almost 5 year old and an almost 3 year old and I work fulltime.

Typer Monkey wrote: »

I do and I work 10 hour shifts..11 including the commute. Why she can't cook the next days dinner when the kids go to bed I don't know. She seems incapable of forward planning, or controlling her children. She says 'of course the children want to help' like it's a given that they be allowed throw stuff all over the kitchen and maul raw chicken.

I don't think she wants to change. Why on earth would making dinner take an hour and a half??? What was she feeding her children beforehand? The programme really needs to help her with planning and organising..and having a positive attitude!

I agree with you regarding the planning, but I am going to stick up for her a bit and I am again going to Dis the show. How can you plan, when you aren't told what to plan for? It appears to me that you are given the recipe on the day, so you can't even start to prep it the night before. I would hope and imagine the leaders are given a bit more information though than what is on their website so maybe she should be able to plan better. I made a few of the dinners at the start but got pissed off not knowing what was for dinner tomorrow so don't bother now.

I also agree with you about her attitude to change. If she really wanted to change, she would embrace the program a bit better instead of becoming a whineo.

Now lets talk about the woman in question. WOW, she is a Hero. She is obviously a really important high flyer, up at 5am to go to work in that poky little office. Not having any time to go to the shops at lunchtime to get something more than an apple and banana which she took in from home. So yea, her time is precious......... but hey, so surely is her health, if not for herself, but for her kids.

Last week her kids had dinner so late it wasn't normal. WTF were they eating before, it sounds to me like they were probably been fed all sorts of junk and crap, so really this show should actually be more about them and how they are brought up so they wont't become fat and overweight and unhealthy like their ma.

I thought she left for a few days when she was going on about missing her kids. FFS, she went out for a walk..........30 bloody minutes at the most. If she was so worried about missing her kids, could she not have waited till they went to bed to go walking!

"I was cooking the fu****ng dinner". Oh my sweet Jesus, I cook dinner aswell and for some reason I don't miss my kids while I'm doing that.

What about her fella, why isn't he helping her more? The state of their house is nothing short of a disgrace. Their parenting skills really need to be questioned, WFT was that with the kids mucking around in the kitchen. I know they want to help... so why not give them one of the sharp knives and ask them to cut up the chicken........ eh, because they are kids and sometimes you have to say no!

Kids need to know their boundaries and learn some discipline, their kids (I'm sure they are lovely) appear to have none, but it is the parents fault. Let them play with something else other than tea bags in a toaster (I've not laughed so hard in ages).... like maybe...... oh yea, it was Christmas a little while ago, I'm sure they have some TOYS!!!!!!

Anyway, she needs a good kick up the arse but the best thing about the show was while she was crying, myself and the other half were having a good laugh at how much a fool she is making herself out to be. this is not normal carry on...... or is it????

Essien

stevieob wrote: »

It appears to me that you are given the recipe on the day, so you can't even start to prep it the night before.

If this is true, which I believe it is, I personally think it exposes the show as being more concerned about creating drama rather than actually helping the leaders or followers.

runawaybishop

Essien wrote: »

If this is true, which I believe it is, I personally think it exposes the show as being more concerned about creating drama rather than actually helping the leaders or followers.

Just eat yesterdays meal.

Tasden

Essien wrote: »

If this is true, which I believe it is, I personally think it exposes the show as being more concerned about creating drama rather than actually helping the leaders or followers.

Yeah this is true AFAIK, but once the day has passed you can go back to the recipe so all she has to do is eat them a day behind so she can see the recipe in advance. So on day three she should be eating day twos meal and so on so forth. Not rocket science.

Essien

runawaybishop wrote: »

Just eat yesterdays meal.

This would make sense, but I thought the idea was that they have to eat certain things on certain days? It's a **** idea, which I've already criticized but I just thought that's the way it was.

vitani

Essien wrote: »

If this is true, which I believe it is, I personally think it exposes the show as being more concerned about creating drama rather than actually helping the leaders or followers.

I don't know how true that is. Each individual's page is only updated on a daily basis, but there's also a 'food plan' category on the website with all of the main meals and a link to a youtube video showing how to make them, and each of the videos clarifies what day it's for. They also give out a shopping list at the start of the week with everything you need for the week on it.

Essien

vitani wrote: »

I don't know how true that is. Each individual's page is only updated on a daily basis, but there's also a 'food plan' category on the website with all of the main meals and a link to a youtube video showing how to make them, and each of the videos clarifies what day it's for. They also give out a shopping list at the start of the week with everything you need for the week on it.

Ah, that sounds more helpful alright. I was under the impression (just from reading posts here) that the leaders only found out what they were making on the day.

Typer Monkey

vitani wrote: »

I don't know how true that is. Each individual's page is only updated on a daily basis, but there's also a 'food plan' category on the website with all of the main meals and a link to a youtube video showing how to make them. They also give out a shopping list at the start of the week with everything you need for the week on it.

Exactly. There's no way they could expect the leaders to shop every day for ingredients on top of everything else. They must surely get a weekly plan so they can do a big shop. If it's a surprise every day what is on the menu for that night's dinner than the show is an absolute joke. I think the only way to control your weight is through planning your meals, preparing in advance and taking food to work with you. If the show isn't facilitating that then they're setting them up to fail

kennM

Essien wrote: »

If this is true, which I believe it is, I personally think it exposes the show as being more concerned about creating drama rather than actually helping the leaders or followers.

If you go into the food plans they give the weeks recipes ahead of time but 1 week at a time. So you have to wait till Monday morning to get Monday -> Sunday (if you follow me). You get the shopping list for the whole week in advance... previous comment applies to recipes for a given day