approx cost to convert nat gas cooker to lpg

cranefly

I hope someone here can give me an approx cost for converting a dual fuel leisure range cooker from nat gas to lpg or bottled gas by a registered gas installer, it has to be a rgi guy for the warranty to be effective, the cooker has five gas rings on the hob and an electric hot plate and two electric ovens, it seems no one in cork anyway, will sell any of these cookers already converted for bottle gas which i find hard to believe, not everyone has nat gas, i would say the majority are still on bottled gas, but all the retailers from harvey norman, currys, did, toss bryan in fermoy, all of them say if you buy a cooker from us you have to do this yourself at extra cost. and get in touch with another company about the lpg conversion kit which to give leisure their due, did say they would send the kit in the post free of charge as soon as we get the cooker. so guys this is just to find out how much extra i will have to fork out on top of the expense of the cooker.

Billy Bunting

The conversion kit normally comes with the cooker, and your looking around €80/100 for converting it and supplying a Cert, presuming installation is to regs.

shane0007

The cooker can only be connected by an RGI anyhow, so even if you were on Nat Gas, you would require an RGI anyhow & a certificate issued by law.

Irish Steve

cranefly wrote: »

I hope someone here can give me an approx cost for converting a dual fuel leisure range cooker from nat gas to lpg or bottled gas by a registered gas installer, it has to be a rgi guy for the warranty to be effective, the cooker has five gas rings on the hob and an electric hot plate and two electric ovens, it seems no one in cork anyway, will sell any of these cookers already converted for bottle gas which i find hard to believe, not everyone has nat gas, i would say the majority are still on bottled gas, but all the retailers from harvey norman, currys, did, toss bryan in fermoy, all of them say if you buy a cooker from us you have to do this yourself at extra cost. and get in touch with another company about the lpg conversion kit which to give leisure their due, did say they would send the kit in the post free of charge as soon as we get the cooker. so guys this is just to find out how much extra i will have to fork out on top of the expense of the cooker.

Might be worth giving McManus distributors http://mcmanusdist.ie/ in Dublin a call, as they are LPG specialists, and may well supply with jets fitted, which will save some pain.

No connection other than as a satisfied customer over a number of years.

shane0007

Irish Steve wrote: »

Might be worth giving McManus distributors http://mcmanusdist.ie/ in Dublin a call, as they are LPG specialists, and may well supply with jets fitted, which will save some pain.

No connection other than as a satisfied customer over a number of years.

It would still have to be connected by an RGI!
So even if you have an existing bayonet connection, cookers do not come with the hoses connected or supplied with them. This must be done by an RGI with a Cert 3 issued.

scudo2

PM sent for local Cork LPG Engineer.

Irish Steve

shane0007 wrote: »

It would still have to be connected by an RGI!
So even if you have an existing bayonet connection, cookers do not come with the hoses connected or supplied with them. This must be done by an RGI with a Cert 3 issued.

Understood, but if it was supplied with the LPG jets fitted, that's less hassle than having to get them from the factory etc.

It was some time ago I had a hob from them, I can't remember what else was fitted. I know I ordered a bayonet connection, but can't remember if they pre fitted it or not, and that was pre RGI rules, so may not be the same now.

shane0007

Even if it was supplied with the hose connected, an RGI must issue a cert 3.
This must confirm the installation is gas sound, the appliance location is correct and the correct ventilation requirements for the appliance have been met.

cranefly

thanks for the info lads, as there already is a gas connection to the cooker from the bottled gas and all i am doing is swapping one cooker for another, whipping off one hose and connecting it back again wow, if i have to pay someone with all the right certs and paperwork, then guys i do not know what is happening to this country, but if that is the law, that is what i will have to do.

And before someone starts ranting and raving about the dangers off gas and its installation and how i as an ordinary joe soap has not got a clue about these things, i would like to know where common sense has gone in this country.
There must have been alot of gas explosions in ireland from cookers in the last 30 years for all this regulation to come into effect, how did the poor plumbers get on back then who had no certs from this crowd or that crowd to tell them what to do.

OK so if that is law i will pay someone to take the gas hose out of one cooker and attatch it to another, as there has been a gas cooker in the same place for 20 years or so i believe ventilation and all other requirements are ok.

But just to be up with all these new requirements i might as well get someone qualified with all the right certs to give the kitchen the once over about position of said cooker, ventilation, extractor fan, maybe that is a lawfull requirement, and i will be sure to pay him his fee as he heads out the door saying everthing is fine, jesus, sorry about the rant fellas, always get good advice from you guys.

Egass13

cranefly wrote: »

thanks for the info lads, as there already is a gas connection to the cooker from the bottled gas and all i am doing is swapping one cooker for another, whipping off one hose and connecting it back again wow, if i have to pay someone with all the right certs and paperwork, then guys i do not know what is happening to this country, but if that is the law, that is what i will have to do.

And before someone starts ranting and raving about the dangers off gas and its installation and how i as an ordinary joe soap has not got a clue about these things, i would like to know where common sense has gone in this country.
There must have been alot of gas explosions in ireland from cookers in the last 30 years for all this regulation to come into effect, how did the poor plumbers get on back then who had no certs from this crowd or that crowd to tell them what to do.

OK so if that is law i will pay someone to take the gas hose out of one cooker and attatch it to another, as there has been a gas cooker in the same place for 20 years or so i believe ventilation and all other requirements are ok.

But just to be up with all these new requirements i might as well get someone qualified with all the right certs to give the kitchen the once over about position of said cooker, ventilation, extractor fan, maybe that is a lawfull requirement, and i will be sure to pay him his fee as he heads out the door saying everthing is fine, jesus, sorry about the rant fellas, always get good advice from you guys.

While you might be very well capable of connecting a new cooker hose, many people are not . Regulation and Certs where brought in for safety , to ensure that not every numpty out there can work on gas. I've come across a couple of cookers that wer connected using bicycle tubes and hose clips. The problem in this country is the relaxed attitude towards gas safety and carbon monoxide safety even. Just because the cooker was there for 20 years Dsnt mean the correct ventilation is there , and this would have to be rectified before and self respecting rgi would connect an appliance and issue a cert. I personally work of worst case scenario and if something is not right, weather common sense tells me it shouldn't be a problem or not , it Dsnt get connected. Most of the explosions you talk of happened it the uk , not so much in Ireland , but do you suggest we wait until homes start exploding before we regulate the industry?

Billy Bunting

cranefly wrote: »

as there has been a gas cooker in the same place for 20 years or so i believe ventilation and all other requirements are ok.

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I would imagine that if its there 20yrs then it's very likely that it will not meet current regs and safety will be an issue, prepare for extra work. :eek:

cranefly

cranefly wrote: »

thanks for the info lads, as there already is a gas connection to the cooker from the bottled gas and all i am doing is swapping one cooker for another, whipping off one hose and connecting it back again wow, if i have to pay someone with all the right certs and paperwork, then guys i do not know what is happening to this country, but if that is the law, that is what i will have to do.

And before someone starts ranting and raving about the dangers off gas and its installation and how i as an ordinary joe soap has not got a clue about these things, i would like to know where common sense has gone in this country.
There must have been alot of gas explosions in ireland from cookers in the last 30 years for all this regulation to come into effect, how did the poor plumbers get on back then who had no certs from this crowd or that crowd to tell them what to do.

OK so if that is law i will pay someone to take the gas hose out of one cooker and attatch it to another, as there has been a gas cooker in the same place for 20 years or so i believe ventilation and all other requirements are ok.

But just to be up with all these new requirements i might as well get someone qualified with all the right certs to give the kitchen the once over about position of said cooker, ventilation, extractor fan, maybe that is a lawfull requirement, and i will be sure to pay him his fee as he heads out the door saying everthing is fine, jesus, sorry about the rant fellas, always get good advice from you guys.

Same old, same old, blah blah.

You don't know what you don't know, doing any job is easy when you know what to look for, fitting a hob is easy with a few simple tests, will you do them?

Checking the date on the rubber hoses is important as they don't last forever and split, but everyone knows that;).

Are you going to fit it to currant standards? which are designed with your safety in mind.

I don't know what you do for a living but what would you think of my opinion on it based on news reports? Did you know that gas incidents are rarely reported in the press?

Why is it those with the least amount of experience always want to dictate common sense and gas wisdom assuming those with the most experiance the "ranters and ravers" are up to no good(baby,bathwater).

Why is it warnings about gas safety are deemed by some to be linked to money is that easier to believe than a concern for your well being.

I have no interest in what you do:eek:, the law says you must employ a RGI, I say make sure you fit it in the safest manor possible, but I'm sure you just hear that as: same old, same old, blah,blah,blah...

shane0007

gary71 wrote: »

Same old, same old, blah blah.

Need a hug?

I completely agree though. It's very easy for somebody who is competent to do so but equally a confident incompetent person is the most dangerous of all.

They think there is nothing to it and can't be told & then are left shocked by the simple but important things they have missed.

Only yesterday I was servicing a boiler in Attanagh, Co.Laois where the customer told me of a local family that was poisoned at Xmas by CO from their recently installed stove. Family was rushed to hospital vomiting. Incorrectly installed flue & no room vent. They thankfully survived but it went unreported in the media.

I wonder how the person who installed it now feels....

But as we can see from the solid fuel threads here on Boards, it's a simple task to install a stove. Nothing to it. As long as you have somebody to lift it in, it's a good 'un & you can pat yourself on the back for a job well done.

Egass13

shane0007 wrote: »

Need a hug?

Someone say hug ?

I fear making a mistake every gas job I do, it's that fear that makes me double double check everything I do, I give warnings and advice(as do others) based on my experiences of what I do and what I see.

My advice is the same now as it was before regulation but now that advice is being diluted by the dross of "yous er only saying dat to keeps yous jobs".

My job is very easy but why are so many making dangerous mistakes?


(not aimed at the op)
There's a saying in the gas industry "SAFETY,SAFETY,SAFETY" there's also second one linked to the first "ONLY A $€## WOULD EVER CRITICISE YOU FOR THINKING TO MUCH ABOUT THE FIRST".

No hugs required I is to grumpy, but you two carry on.

shane0007

gary71 wrote: »

but you two carry on.

I wouldn't dare get in between Egass & Dtp. Too beautiful a relationship to disrupt.