Falls from grace in football

grenache

Seaneh wrote: »

Ah yes, when he family moved to the US, 16 years ago, and he was really 17, they pretended he was 8 and enrolled him in elementary school. From there he magically grew several inches, got stronger, faster and went through puberty until he was 14 (but actually in his 20's) and secured professional soccer contract and endorsements. It was all a clever ruse.


You do realise how utterly ****ing retarded this hypothesis is?


The amount of times this bollocks is rolled out in relation to players of african origin on these boards is ****ing disgraceful. I've even seen it on here about players like Lukaku, which is ****ing amazing seeing as he was born in Belgium.


It's borderline racist bolloxology.

Two words: Taribo West

Augmerson

Liverpool. The louses are in 4th, ha ha. What a fall from grace.

Seaneh

grenache wrote: »

Two words: Taribo West

Ah yes, because something a former president of Partizan Belgrade said, over 10 years after West left the team is definitely true, despite all the evidence to the contrary. He also played as a professional for another 6 years. Mean he played at a professional until the age of 46? Absolute nonsense.

If he was older than he claimed, even by a few years, Partizan would have said it at the time, not a decade later. Never mind 12 ****ing years.

Next someone will say Martins, despite the fact that anyone who watched his debut with Inter and then his physical development over the next 3 or 4 years, will tell you that he was a teenager when he broke into the first time. Unless there is some magic was to make an adult grow 2-3 inches, get a lot stronger and a lot faster and con doctors at several top level clubs into thinking he was a lot younger than he really is.

Blatter

Franny Jeffers is a big one.

osarusan

Danny Cadamarteri was a lad who seemed to have a big future ahead of him, but ended up trawling through lower leagues for most of his career.

The Narrator

Seaneh wrote: »

Ah yes, when he family moved to the US, 16 years ago, and he was really 17, they pretended he was 8 and enrolled him in elementary school. From there he magically grew several inches, got stronger, faster and went through puberty until he was 14 (but actually in his 20's) and secured professional soccer contract and endorsements. It was all a clever ruse.

You do realise how utterly ****ing retarded this hypothesis is?

The amount of times this bollocks is rolled out in relation to players of african origin on these boards is ****ing disgraceful. I've even seen it on here about players like Lukaku, which is ****ing amazing seeing as he was born in Belgium.

It's borderline racist bolloxology.

You should have a wander around some Nigerian football forums, apparently they seem to think it is rife there too.

People have conned others since the beginning of time, why would football be different.

Nigeria have been caught fielding numerous overage (way overage) players at youth tournaments.

But don't let me stop your cheating is ok/PC brigade tantrum..

Chazz Michael Michaels

The Narrator wrote: »

You should have a wander around some Nigerian football forums, apparently they seem to think it is rife there too.

People have conned others since the beginning of time, why would football be different.

Nigeria have been caught fielding numerous overage (way overage) players at youth tournaments.

But don't let me stop your cheating is ok/PC brigade tantrum..

Ghana u 20s pulled it too. I remember reading about it in World Soccer magazine, the most racist periodical on earth.

RossieMan

i don't know what you lads are on about, football is a clean sport where no one would ever cheat to gain an advantage.

Mars Bar

Back on topic

Chazz Michael Michaels

Colin Healy?

Kerrydude1981

For a lad that burst on to the scene Federico Macheda could be included,it seems he is well on his way in his fall from grace.

theoneeyedman

Saw Lee Hughes on the TV the other night playing non league football with his new team. While he might not have reached the heights of some of the names mentioned he had a couple of big money deals in the early noughties before being jailed following a traffic accident. Came back to resurrect a lower league career but never reached the heights of upper championship or lower premiership level where he was before.

Alias G

dreamers75 wrote: »

Championship to no football to Champions league ???

He will more than likely play one round of the champions league qualifiers. That's not champions league football.

Provided he stays injury free of course.

Red Kev

FC Magdeburg.

East German champions three times in the 70's, won 7 cups and are the only East German club to have won a European trophy, winning the Cup Winners Cup by beating AC Milan in 1974. They were the youngest team ever to win their league in 1974 and they supplied four of the team that beat West Germany 1-0 at the 1974 World Cup finals.

Having almost won the title in 1990, failing to hold onto their best players meant they failed to get into the newly restructured Bundesliga in 1991-92 and since then it's been a slippery slope downhill. They currently play in the Regionalliga Nord-Ost, the 4th German tier which comprises 5 regional leagues.

No other European trophy winning club has ever gone so low in it's own national leagues. Some other major east German clubs of the time have fallen badly or have been dissolved altogether.

pablomakaveli

Chazz Michael Michaels wrote: »

Colin Healy?

He was really unfortunate with that leg break at Sunderland. When he signed for us a few years ago he was easily one of the best players on the team and it looked like he was on the rise when he ended up getting a move to Ipswich. Honestly thought he'd go on from there but didn't work out. At least he re-signed for us after.

Surprised Wimbledon hasn't been mentioned. In the Premiership all through the 90's and then the whole MK Dons thing happened.

dan1895

Not the biggest fall but Auxerre in France. French champions in the 90's, a bag of cup wins in the noughties and a fair few showings in Europe now plodding along in mid-table of Ligue 2.

COYVB

Randy Lerner

Took over Villa, threw the kitchen sink at it and ended up owning a squad of players earning 3-4 times their worth that were unsellable. Faced with financial disaster, he had to pull the plug on spending to try to make the club more self-sufficient. Hasn't been at a game in over a year, and is being hammered by Villa fans for lack of interest/spending, but randomly put a mystery £90m into the club last month to clear all the club's debts by virtue of creating new shares for himself. Nobody seems to know what exactly is going on, but he's gone from hero to villain in the space of 7 years

Chazz Michael Michaels

COYVB wrote: »

Randy Lerner

Took over Villa, threw the kitchen sink at it and ended up owning a squad of players earning 3-4 times their worth that were unsellable. Faced with financial disaster, he had to pull the plug on spending to try to make the club more self-sufficient. Hasn't been at a game in over a year, and is being hammered by Villa fans for lack of interest/spending, but randomly put a mystery £90m into the club last month to clear all the club's debts by virtue of creating new shares for himself. Nobody seems to know what exactly is going on, but he's gone from hero to villain in the space of 7 years

Truly, this is a post in the spirit of this thread.

Fr Tod Umptious

pablomakaveli wrote: »

He was really unfortunate with that leg break at Sunderland. When he signed for us a few years ago he was easily one of the best players on the team and it looked like he was on the rise when he ended up getting a move to Ipswich. Honestly thought he'd go on from there but didn't work out. At least he re-signed for us after.

Surprised Wimbledon hasn't been mentioned. In the Premiership all through the 90's and then the whole MK Dons thing happened.

A bit like Luton and Oxford as mentioned before, Wimbledon were hardly big time to begin with, they shot up the leagues, hung on in the top flight by the skin of their teeth a few times, got relegated a few times and moved city.

If in say two years time Wigan are in the third tier would you include them in a thread like this ?

Rhys Essien

Zico wrote: »

LOL DFX Aye Alan Smith was an example of how Alex Ferguson could destroy a player.

Andrei Shevchenko at Chelsea was one of the greatest flops in history and it had a ripple effect on Mourinho. How could something so good go so badly?

Id say there is a curse at Chelsea on prolific strikers who join.Besides Shevchenko,Mutu and Torres,there was also Kezman who retired in 2011.He now owns a cafe in Belgrade.

Also Milan Baros had a fair fall after Liverpool.

Stephen Ireland is just about holding things together.An awful waste of talent.The lad could have cut it at any league in Europe if he had his head together.

764dak

Rhys Essien wrote: »

Id say there is a curse at Chelsea on prolific strikers who join.Besides Shevchenko,Mutu and Torres,there was also Kezman who retired in 2011.He now owns a cafe in Belgrade.

Also Milan Baros had a fair fall after Liverpool.

Stephen Ireland is just about holding things together.An awful waste of talent.The lad could have cut it at any league in Europe if he had his head together.

What do you mean by that? Do you mean dominating any league?

SweepTheLeg

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Saw Lee Hughes on the TV the other night playing non league football with his new team. While he might not have reached the heights of some of the names mentioned he had a couple of big money deals in the early noughties before being jailed following a traffic accident. Came back to resurrect a lower league career but never reached the heights of upper championship or lower premiership level where he was before.

That accident being he killed someone whilst drink driving, then hid in his house until the drink wore off. He did eventually turn himself in though.

padd b1975

Jody Morris.

ArmaniJeanss

Hungary.

dinorebel

It's Portsmouth an empire built on sand.

Red Kev

Not sure if post-careers get a mention, but if so Garrincha should be up there.

If Ronaldo is worth €100m , then the little bird would easily get €150m if he were around today. One of the unlikeliest, but still greatest players ever, it's a huge regret that wall to wall TV coverage didn't exist at the time, we'd have so much more to enjoy of him.

He became an alcoholic, spent all of the money he earned (very little compared to todays players) and died terribly of liver cirrhosis aged 49 in the poverty in which he was born.

As a mark of how highly his own people held him, in the Maracana stadium the away dressing rooms are named after the great Pele. They reserved the name Garrincha for the home ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6D8VnLGbLk

Dozen Wicked Words

Following on from his fall from grace, Aidy Boothroyd, of fupping up at Northampton Town fame, sacked by them after leading them to rock bottom of the football league, has now been put in charge of some of England's young prospects.

The new England Under-20 coach. He plays a certain style of football, so the future of the English National team is secure.

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