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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Iopu wrote: »
    It's the number one treatment for hair loss. But at a lower dose than for prostate enlargement. There are some scary stories out there about it. But there is also a hair loss forum I was visiting with many people saying they don't get any side effects from it.

    I had no side effects for five years before finasteride-induced gynecomastia started happening. Had to go under the knife last year for it and to be honest it still doesn't look 100% in keeping with the rest of my body. I'm a slim person and it was getting out of control - exercise had no effect and it got to the point that I couldn't wear t-shirts or any form-fitting clothing whatsoever.

    I wouldn't recommend finasteride for anyone because in my case, I had to get expensive surgery for a treatment that was intended to reduce the need for (hair loss) surgery!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭benny79


    I have used rogain, regaine (all the 1 now) for a number of years although at the start it was great hair but you have to keep using it I stopped for a few months and my crown got light very quickly! Im back using it a few months now and it does nt seem to be as good just halting the process if anything at 40e a month it works out expensive after a while.

    I seen a specialist in james hospital hospital years ago about my hair loss and she said its natural hair loss and the rogaine/rogain is the only medical proven treatment for hair loss although it wont work for everyone, in other words all the tablets viscal etc are a load of ****!

    so Im nearly 35 now and really taking it badly as specially as it keeps getting pointed out to me on a daily base's. so I think Im either have to embrace it and shave it or get a lone for a transplant which I would'nt get done in this country! and have heard its never the same no matter how good they are! wayne rooney for example..

    P.S sounds stupid but how do you massage the scalp? also what hair products do lads use I used to use brill cream but someone told me makes you go grey! so stopped and use Gel now but dont think this helps the scalp, need something as I have a big calfs lick as a fringe :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 John O Brian


    It always kinda amazes me how people feel they can pass comment on the fact that I'm going light on top.

    I'll meet someone i haven't seen for a while and one of the first things they will say is "jaysus you're losing the hair", as if I'm not consious of the fact already.


    I always hated that, at a wedding I got so many comments from old friends, as if I am not aware of it or it is not insulting, on of the guys was about 5 stone heavier than when I last saw him. How come it is ok to insult balding guys but if I said to a girl "You're getting a bit big in the arse" I'd get a slap!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 John O Brian


    Hello all, I have been using the Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo for about 2 years, I don't even know if it "reduces hair loss" as stated but when I don't use it I feel my hair looks lighter. I was wondering maybe there is some sort of "filler" in the product that's why it looks lighter when I don't use it. It is cheap, about €7.50 which lasts about 3-5 months depending on how much shampoo you normally use.

    I can't afford a transplant. Shaving head is not an option, I fecking hate skin heads, they just look like scum (not everyone, but a lot of guys look scumy when sporting a shaved head, I look like a nazi, and I don't want that.) White guys just look weird shaved.

    I just wanna keep enough until I can afford a transplant, need something to slow it down. Would <snip> do this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 K.H.E.G


    Hi does anyone have any experience in this industry or even better any users who have had the treatment done? It was never available in Ireland but I see on grabone today a new company has opened up and are giving a discount.

    I would love to sort my hair-loss and can't afford a transplant. This looks very good, pictures are impressive but I would love to chat to someone with experience.

    Cheers guys


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    benny79 wrote: »
    I have used rogain, regaine (all the 1 now) for a number of years although at the start it was great hair but you have to keep using it I stopped for a few months and my crown got light very quickly! Im back using it a few months now and it does nt seem to be as good just halting the process if anything at 40e a month it works out expensive after a while.

    I seen a specialist in james hospital hospital years ago about my hair loss and she said its natural hair loss and the rogaine/rogain is the only medical proven treatment for hair loss although it wont work for everyone, in other words all the tablets viscal etc are a load of ****!

    Buy generic Minoxidil, I pay 60E for six months supply, lasts me about a year actually as I only use it once a day.

    there's no way a hair specialist told you that 'all the tablets are a load of ****' because <snip> works and is medically proven to work effectively, and it works far better than Regaine ever could. They are the only two proven hair loss treatments, and Fin is the far stronger of the two (with the potential for more serious side effects)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭benny79


    She didnt actually word it that way she just said rogaine was the only medical proven treatment although all the tablets etc claim to be for hair loss they are not actually medical proven or passed in the medical joural.

    Where do you get the generic minoxidil and finasteride? only think ill be afraid of using finasteride is of the side effects like a previous poster said he got man boobs and had to have a operation...


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    mod

    As finasterise is a prescription-only drug here in Ireland, I've got to ask for an end to requests for info on how to get it, and advice including it.
    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Hello all, I have been using the Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo for about 2 years, I don't even know if it "reduces hair loss" as stated but when I don't use it I feel my hair looks lighter. I was wondering maybe there is some sort of "filler" in the product that's why it looks lighter when I don't use it. It is cheap, about €7.50 which lasts about 3-5 months depending on how much shampoo you normally use.

    I can't afford a transplant. Shaving head is not an option, I fecking hate skin heads, they just look like scum (not everyone, but a lot of guys look scumy when sporting a shaved head, I look like a nazi, and I don't want that.) White guys just look weird shaved.

    I just wanna keep enough until I can afford a transplant, need something to slow it down. Would finerstide do this?

    Bit of a generalisation to hate white people with shaved heads :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Snatchy


    Lads - I have to agree with the comments here regarding people constantly pointing out that you are losing your hair - it's F*CK*NG INFURIATING and in my opinion equivalent to calling someone as looking fat, old, ugly and all those other things that normally, people would avoid saying to other people. I can't understand how some folks think it's acceptable to point out one's premature (or even mature) baldness.

    Apologies but it really annoys me - I'm 26 and am losing the fluff fairly lively on top and it annoys me and makes me feel selfconscious even though, I have a lot of other things going for me (not in a boasty way but...), I'm reasonably good looking, fit, live in a fancy apartment in Manhattan and have a very good job - in spite of this, hairloss really, really brings me down and makes me feel selfconscious - point: it's a serious issue not to be treated lightly!

    Unlike weight gain and lack of fitness etc., it is not something that one can do much about (surgery aside) and it impacts us lads as much as lovehandles (and other flabby bits) wrinkles and bad skin effect women so it's just completely rude to brush this off to us as though it's something that doesn't matter all that much. GRRRRRRRRR!!!

    Anyone here get hair surgery or know anyone who has? Was it worth it?

    I've recently started using Alpecine liquid and shampoo and it feels as though something is happening but I'm not sure exactly what! I've also recently decided to spawn a new haircut - blade 3 all around. It's not as hideous as I thought it would be.

    Any other suggestions re what to do?

    How do you lads deal with this?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    Been looking into using minoxidil. Is there really any major side affects? Can anyone recommend the best minoxidil product to use? Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Been looking into using minoxidil. Is there really any major side affects? Can anyone recommend the best minoxidil product to use? Cheers

    It's all the same, just make you get one that is 5%. Bear in mind, however, that my recent import of a six-month supply was stopped at customs. When I called up I was told that I need to buy it over-the-counter in Ireland, which is about 6x as expensive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    It's all the same, just make you get one that is 5%. Bear in mind, however, that my recent import of a six-month supply was stopped at customs. When I called up I was told that I need to buy it over-the-counter in Ireland, which is about 6x as expensive.

    Cheers! Has there been other times when you did receive it from an online purchase? Sure even if I do have to pay extra in Ireland for it and it works it'll be worth it! What minoxidil products do you use?


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Iopu


    I use regain extra strength. It doesn't have any sides for me. I prefer the liquid over the foam because it is easier to get the dosing correct.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭thomas anderson.


    Just be men ffs and let it go.

    Im bald as a baby's arse and have been going bald since I was 19.

    Nothing better than a freshly shaved head and the missus loves it to boot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭kieranfitz


    I recommend...........A razor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Iopu


    I'm not bald I just have a bad hairline. It runs in my family, those who are effected have not gone bald.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Brendan Flowers


    The only thing as annoying as people commenting on your receding hairline is those who tell you to shave it off. I hate the attitude that you need to "man-up" just because you want to take care of yourself and look your best. I think I already stated in this thread that I couldnt pull off the bald look. And its the same for a lot of other guys. I'll get a hair transplant before shaving it all off.

    Ok, back on topic. So would the general consensus be that regaine is the best available "minoxidil" product?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Just be men ffs and let it go.

    Im bald as a baby's arse and have been going bald since I was 19.

    Nothing better than a freshly shaved head and the missus loves it to boot.

    In fairness man, just because that works for you doesn't mean every bloke that's getting light on top feels the same way.

    Hair or lack there of can be a massive source of angst for men so just because you accepted it from an early age doesn't mean everyone will.

    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Good point CS.

    I had thin hair at the age of 18. Therefore I had it cut short and neat.
    I accepted the fact and by the time I was 30, well, not much left. I now have a number 1 cut on the razor.

    Many men do suffer from serious angst because of baldness. It must be awful. Of course when other men see that weakness in you, they take the P.

    Some people who don't know me and are feeling bold try and take the P.
    All you do is laugh with them and take the p out of yourself. Lull them into a false sense of security and then fecking destroy them. Easy peasy. If they can give you ****e you give it back. Keep it light hearted.

    Whatever you feel comfortable doing. Do it. Your life. Your self esteem.
    Your bloody sanity at the end of the day. Good luck.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 949 ✭✭✭M.J.M.C


    Some great advice here.
    I myself had thin hair like others here at a young age about 18, now in my 30's its nearly all gone.
    It got me down a good bit, but I found others ways that give me confidence (weight loss and running) and now it doesn't bother in the least.
    There's more to life.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,371 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I have yet to see a man who I think looks odd bald. Normally I only notice where it is guys I know who I haven't seem for a number of years but after a while that normalises too. That said, whatever gives someone happiness and conficence cannot be a bad thing.
    Personally I have a full head of hair but have really bad eyesight. I always wear contacts as I don't like glasses. Noone else would really care if I wore glasses but am happy with the contacts.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've recently had the hair replacement procedure in a clinic in Eastern Europe. Cost about a grand for the procedure itself, plus another 600 for flights and accommodation etc.

    At the moment it's still a tight haircut but glad I did it and hope it will be worth it in 6-12 months time when it should start to grow new hair.

    I don't like the immature giggling and stigmatising of people who get it done. Why not get it done? I'd rather have hair than not! Sacrifice other things to pay for it

    Anyone needs any info on it send me a PM.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]



    Ok, back on topic. So would the general consensus be that regaine is the best available "minoxidil" product?

    I've given up on all that stuff and gone for the hair loss op. Did a cost benefit analysis and it seems to be more cost effective over a lifetime and also less hassle.

    But if you go for the minoxidil, a flight to Spain and you can get generic equivalent of Rogaine for a fraction of the price


  • Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭Nappy


    Hey Guys,

    I have been using a hair rejuvenation system called the iGrow. I'm 4 weeks in and already noticing the differences. It uses low level laser therapy to prevent further loss. You look like an idiot with it on but it does the job. FDA approved and no dodgy side affects.

    Nappy


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    hi lads, just started taking <mod snip> per day to treat male pattern hairloss. ireckon i am a nw3 but no crown thinning just thinng at hair line and its now noticeable. My dermatologist told me how safe the drug is and she said a massive amount of men in the states take it. This whole shave your head comments has no use in a forum like this as people want constructive answers. i wil let ye know how im getting on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Iopu


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    hi lads, just started taking 5mg proscar which i will be cutting up into quarterts to give me 1.25mg finasteride per day to treat male pattern hairloss. ireckon i am a nw3 but no crown thinning just thinng at hair line and its now noticeable. My dermatologist told me how safe the drug is and she said a massive amount of men in the states take it. This whole shave your head comments has no use in a forum like this as people want constructive answers. i wil let ye know how im getting on.

    Me too, <mod snip>. Are you also using minoxidil?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    no im not using minoxidil as i have heard the hairs that grow back can be like peach fuzz but obvioulsy some people have also had good regrowth using it. are you using <mod snip> aswel? Also i feel that maybe a year down the line if i retain my hair i can still have the option of starting minoxidil, i wouldnt like to use both yet as i would not be sure which is actually working. WHat is your patern of baldness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Lads, all I would say is just make sure you put your health and welfare ahead of your hair! I would be loathed to take anything that systemically impacted on my hormones just to keep my hair.

    Unfortunately, for many of us going bald is just part of being a man of a certain age. Sometimes it happens early, sometimes it doesn't happen at all.
    I actually think there is way too much nonsense and social pressure being put on guys about this and it's growing rather than declining.

    You can look great without hair and with a bit of help and confidence you can pull the look off.

    Honestly, I think it's about time for a bit of 'bald pride' and to hell with the bullies!

    I'm not saying guys shouldn't be able to try various treatments or whatever they want to do but I'm sick of some of the ridiculous media bullying that goes on. I've seen it around certain footballers etc etc

    I think this kind of pressure has impacted on women for decades and has led to a lot of unrealistic body self image and psychological damage. I know stunning women who convince themselves that they've problems that they really do not have at all.

    I'm seeing more and more of this impacting men now too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    ys you are entitlied to your opinion but the facts are <mod snip>.
    quite simply not many men look better being bald it can have quite an impact on a mans ability to fufill a happy life if he has low self esteem.


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