Calf Prices 2014

mahoney_j

delaval wrote: »

Those hi Ebi animals are but for the regular Joe get rid asap

U mean the auld jex Runts!!!!!!

joejobrien

There was very few fancy prices for fr calves. there was a few farmer buyers and it put a floor under but when they were finished buying pleanty of calves less than 40 down to 5 euro:eek: and lads were leaving them behind not knowing what you bring home and ...............they werent jex. neither.

delaval

mahoney_j wrote: »

U mean the auld jex Runts!!!!!!

You'd have a point if all you bulls were being sold for breeding

TEAT SQUEEZER

i`d say sold fr bull calves would only leave a fraction of a cent more / litre over the jerseyx come profit monitor time....

Base price

Very few quality FR bull calves to suit the current export market at the moment although it is early in the season and this inclement weather is not the best for shipping.

Farmer Pudsey

TEAT SQUEEZER wrote: »

i`d say sold fr bull calves would only leave a fraction of a cent more / litre over the jerseyx come profit monitor time....

You have to factor in that you also will be breeding better quality surplass Beef calves and a higher vale cull cow. However after all give it as 100/calf@ 0.6/calves/cow /year and 200/cull cow( 20% of herd) so in total 110/cow/year.
On a cow producing 6Klitre/year it is 1.8c/litre.

However you have to factor in that X breed cows may have a longer span in herd and cost less to maintain and higher solids against this Holstein may have higher yields.

Doing sums it may equate to only about 1c/litre at present. However I believe dairy bred calves are over prices at present compared to yearlings

Damo810

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

You have to factor in that you also will be breeding better quality surplass Beef calves and a higher vale cull cow. However after all give it as 100/calf@ 0.6/calves/cow /year and 200/cull cow( 20% of herd) so in total 110/cow/year.
On a cow producing 6Klitre/year it is 1.8c/litre.

However you have to factor in that X breed cows may have a longer span in herd and cost less to maintain and higher solids against this Holstein may have higher yields.

Doing sums it may equate to only about 1c/litre at present. However I believe dairy bred calves are over prices at present compared to yearlings

Surely thats canceled out by the fact the smaller JerseyX will allow a higher SR?

delaval

Damo810 wrote: »

Surely thats canceled out by the fact the smaller JerseyX will allow a higher SR?

Now look what you started, Mahoney

mahoney_j

I know it's been done to death and a lot of ye think the hol is a non runner.but come on a good stock man with good attention to detail with a well bred hol herd will at least match or better ur x breed.a 7 to 8 j a year cow shoving out 600 kg solids on a tonne of meal is achievable.on limited land base a x bred is a non runner.utilise as much grass as possible ,feed ur cows correctly has to be the motto.too many see the x bred as a quick easy fix solution to poor fertility poor solids when in fact u should be looking at yourself as to why u bred a cow like that ,aren't utilising grass correctly and management of ur cows is poor..

delaval

mahoney_j wrote: »

I know it's been done to death and a lot of ye think the hol is a non runner.but come on a good stock man with good attention to detail with a well bred hol herd will at least match or better ur x breed.a 7 to 8 j a year cow shoving out 600 kg solids on a tonne of meal is achievable.on limited land base a x bred is a non runner.utilise as much grass as possible ,feed ur cows correctly has to be the motto.too many see the x bred as a quick easy fix solution to poor fertility poor solids when in fact u should be looking at yourself as to why u bred a cow like that ,aren't utilising grass correctly and management of ur cows is poor..

None of us think Hols are a non runner, you're the only one keeps reassuring yourself, ha ha.

Comment in jest!!!!!

sheebadog

mahoney_j wrote: »

I know it's been done to death and a lot of ye think the hol is a non runner.but come on a good stock man with good attention to detail with a well bred hol herd will at least match or better ur x breed.a 7 to 8 j a year cow shoving out 600 kg solids on a tonne of meal is achievable.on limited land base a x bred is a non runner.utilise as much grass as possible ,feed ur cows correctly has to be the motto.too many see the x bred as a quick easy fix solution to poor fertility poor solids when in fact u should be looking at yourself as to why u bred a cow like that ,aren't utilising grass correctly and management of ur cows is poor..

Horses for courses. Xbreds are the job if you have plenty graze able acres. You can then farm extensively and at low cost.
The beauty of this xbred/extensive system is that it is easily replicable. All you need is plenty grazeable acres.

mahoney_j

delaval wrote: »

None of us think Hols are a non runner, you're the only one keeps reassuring yourself, ha ha.

Comment in jest!!!!!

Sure no one else believes me so I have to keep telling myself that over and over!!!

Timmaay

mahoney_j wrote: »

Sure no one else believes me so I have to keep telling myself that over and over!!!

Your beginning to sound like that farmer ed chap by now

galwayhillbilly

any update on prices from yesterdays marts?

simx

galwayhillbilly wrote: »

any update on prices from yesterdays marts?

Meant to be back in Kk anyway. Only heard that Reared calves fr €190

monseiur

On the subject of calves, perhaps dairy farmers should consider breeding their cows with AA, Hereford or Lim. bulls, I'v seen it done in Scotland. You get a quality calf, easy calving, double or more the price of Jersey/Hol etc. at the mart...a no brainer really. A Fresian/ Hol. calf is a big waste when the same cow could produce a quality calf at no extra cost with double the profit.....just a thought!
M

Mulumpy

monseiur wrote: »

On the subject of calves, perhaps dairy farmers should consider breeding their cows with AA, Hereford or Lim. bulls, I'v seen it done in Scotland. You get a quality calf, easy calving, double or more the price of Jersey/Hol etc. at the mart...a no brainer really. A Fresian/ Hol. calf is a big waste when the same cow could produce a quality calf at no extra cost with double the profit.....just a thought!
M

Erm what about replacements.

Damo810

mahoney_j wrote: »

I know it's been done to death and a lot of ye think the hol is a non runner.but come on a good stock man with good attention to detail with a well bred hol herd will at least match or better ur x breed.a 7 to 8 j a year cow shoving out 600 kg solids on a tonne of meal is achievable.on limited land base a x bred is a non runner.utilise as much grass as possible ,feed ur cows correctly has to be the motto.too many see the x bred as a quick easy fix solution to poor fertility poor solids when in fact u should be looking at yourself as to why u bred a cow like that ,aren't utilising grass correctly and management of ur cows is poor..

Era sure aren't them holsteins only a poor mans zebra's.

monseiur

Mulumpy wrote: »

Erm what about replacements.

I'm well aware that replacements have to be bred etc. but take a dairy farmer with say 80 cows he'll hardly require a large no. of replacements every year.
For the next few months the marts will be flooded with calves of little or no value to either buyer of seller, when,with a little planning things could be very different. Dairy farmers should seriously consider breeding a % of their cows every year with a decent AA, Her, etc. bull.
I've seen them in Scotland and they make quality stock, heifer off springs make excellent suckler cows.

milkprofit

Damo810 wrote: »

Era sure aren't them holsteins only a poor mans zebra's.

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Is there any chance we could keep this Thread for calf prices only


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kevthegaff

I reckon wel see more WH and AA on the market in the next couple of years as lads will have expanded, manage fertility better and sex semen will become more prevalent

Reggie.

kevthegaff wrote: »

I reckon wel see more WH and AA on the market in the next couple of years as lads will have expanded, manage fertility better and sex semen will become more prevalent

+1

biddy2013

80 euro fr bull calves out of yard

dzer2

biddy2013 wrote: »

80 euro fr bull calves out of yard

You done well I paid 75 euro dropped in the yard this week

biddy2013

dzer2 wrote: »

You done well I paid 75 euro dropped in the yard this week

he said 80 was the max he could pay, expect more next week as i have a couple of monsters of calves, might bring them to mart if i am not happy with what he is giving me

Base price

OH was in Carrigallen today. There were more dairy calves than last week, 50 more or so. Prices were back from last week on the earlier lots but picked up as the sale went on. There did not seem to be much activity for export calves, possibly due to the current uncertainty at moment.
Early lots of good Fr bull calves were selling for €55 to €65.

delaval

Base price wrote: »

OH was in Carrigallen today. There were more dairy calves than last week, 50 more or so. Prices were back from last week on the earlier lots but picked up as the sale went on. There did not seem to be much activity for export calves, possibly due to the current uncertainty at moment.
Early lots of good Fr bull calves were selling for €55 to €65.

Where is carrigallen?

PMU

fr bulls in Ballinasloe yesterday 50-80 euro.I had 2 that were 10 days old and got no bid for them. they want fr bulls at least a month old. AA bull 210 euro. AA heifer 150. jex bull,month old(good shape) 120euro.BB bull 350.

biddy2013

who are "they" farmers or shippers

td5man

delaval wrote: »

Where is carrigallen?

Leitrim

biddy2013

td5man wrote: »

Leitrim

kovu country- maybe i should delete that as its off topic:D

PMU

biddy2013 wrote: »

who are "they" farmers or shippers

either it seems.shippers definitely want them strong

Reggie.

PMU wrote: »

fr bulls in Ballinasloe yesterday 50-80 euro.I had 2 that were 10 days old and got no bid for them. they want fr bulls at least a month old. AA bull 210 euro. AA heifer 150. jex bull,month old(good shape) 120euro.BB bull 350.

What age were the AA

red bull

Anyone see Lim or Char calves sold ?

limo_100

red bull wrote: »

Anyone see Lim or Char calves sold ?

over 2 or 3 weeks of age 400 to 500 average. some even more thats in carigallen wasnt in it the last few weeks but they make them prices there

kevthegaff

dropped 8 fr bulls into the mart this morning, fingers crossed im not bringing an home

delaval

kevthegaff wrote: »

dropped 8 fr bulls into the mart this morning, fingers crossed im not bringing an home

If you were to listen to some you'd be hoping not to get a bill!!

It's amazing how the calf men talk down prices yet when the factory does it they claim they're being taken for a ride

milkprofit

6 fr bulls 14 days nice calves 60 e in yard

Farmer Pudsey

limo_100 wrote: »

over 2 or 3 weeks of age 400 to 500 average. some even more thats in carigallen wasnt in it the last few weeks but they make them prices there

milkprofit wrote: »

6 fr bulls 14 days nice calves 60 e in yard

I prefer the fresians bulls rather than the continentals

kevthegaff

sold them anwa 10 days old 35 45 75 85 in bunches of two

PMU

was that nenagh Kev

jt65

PMU wrote: »

was that nenagh Kev

nenagh to morrow

think thurles is to day

thurles have a good website btw other marts could learn a little from it

kevthegaff

thurles, the lads there seem alot sounder and helpful unloading the calves

mf240

There sound in Thurles alright,

The website is www.midtippmart.com it's gives a full report.

Any charlies in it Kev?

kevthegaff

i didnt even walk in the door, the boys brought them in.sold them over the phone as i was up the walls. they rang me the minute they went through the ring!

larrymiller

seen a clip of tomorrows farming indo that bull calves are going for as little as 2 euro. Im guessing these must be jex

simx

larrymiller wrote: »

seen a clip of tomorrows farming indo that bull calves are going for as little as 2 euro. Im guessing these must be jex

That was the case last year, was in cashel mart one Saturday and seen loads of jex calves €2-€15

larrymiller

Even if they were free you'd wonder why anyone would bring them home

Farmer Pudsey

larrymiller wrote: »

Even if they were free you'd wonder why anyone would bring them home

I prefer to buy them at 0-20 euro rather than Continentals from dairy stock at 400 a pop. Biggest issue is are we heading to a siyutation where these will be treated as bobby calves, or where they will be send for slaughter at birth.

I put up a thread a few weeks ago about this and at the time calves were making 100 more than now. Some farmers could not see this coming down the road. It is just like Suckler farmers failing to see the trickle down effect of lighter carcass weights and if there is no market for bull beef.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057127418

Farmers will be reluctant to do it but is it now time to send JEX and extreme Holstein straight for slaughter.

Insp. Harry Callahan

Bought 13, 6 week old good freisian bull calves 130 euro left in yard