Doctor Strange

Basq

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwcSki7r9cQ

I know it's a teaser but it could be the first Marvel trailer in a while that didn't particularly impress me!

Bacchus

Basq wrote: »

I know it's a teaser but it could be the first Marvel trailer in a while that didn't particularly impress me!

Looks class to me. Inception meets MCU. This looks like it will offer a very fresh take on the MCU which a lot of people have been calling out for.

Basq

Bacchus wrote: »

Looks class to me. Inception meets MCU. This looks like it will offer a very fresh take on the MCU which a lot of people have been calling out for.

It reminded me a little too much of Inception to be honest.... but with a third-rate director behind this.

speedboatchase

Despite being similarly odd and not sure bets at all, Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man each had fantastic first trailers. This does not.

This trailer looks way too similar to Batman Begins, Inception, Matrix, and even Avatar: The Last Airbender. The two 'wow' shots - Strange leaving his body + the Manhattan inception part - just aren't that great and overall it looks a bit goofy.

Plenty of time for me to be proven wrong and the next trailer could be amazing but this isn't a great start.

Tefral

Has anyone watched the Doctor Strange Sorcerer Supreme movie yet? Its worth checking out.

pixelburp

Bacchus wrote: »

Looks class to me. Inception meets MCU. This looks like it will offer a very fresh take on the MCU which a lot of people have been calling out for.

Can't speak for other people, but a 'fresh' take for me would be a little more prowess and imagination in the lensing of these MCU films: I watched a clip from the upcoming Civil War and while the movie itself has me excited, holy god the framing and composition was just ... boring. Utterly anaemic. Like, about as attractively composed as a TV sitcom or a mid-range family drama serial. Marvel are lowballing the directorial talent and it really, really shows.

As to this trailer, well I never had an interest in Dr. Strange to begin with & frankly 'magic' is too often an excuse for narrative cheating, so if this trailer was meant to pull me into that magical realm, mission failed. Maybe the powder is being kept dry for a later, more intense preview, but so far, so underwealming

FortuneChip

Not a lot to be enthused or critical of it - seemed a very generic trailer.
That said, Cumberbatch is probably the most talented actor (save Bale) to play a superhero, so happy to wait until release day.

Penn

Wasn't overly sold on his accent in the trailer. Maybe I just wasn't really expecting him to do an actual American accent.

The trailer had some good bits but didn't really show off anything of substance, so hard to tell what to make of it. This trailer and the promo images certainly look the part anyway.



To me, Phase 1's biggest risk was Thor. Phase 2's was Guardians of the Galaxy. Phase 3's biggest risk is Doctor Strange.

FunLover18

Penn wrote: »

To me, Phase 1's biggest risk was Thor. Phase 2's was Guardians of the Galaxy. Phase 3's biggest risk is Doctor Strange.

People are also still waiting for the "turkey" that Ant-Man failed to deliver. I'm not saying that people who aren't enthused about this have made there minds up, I wasn't blown away by that teaser myself, but there will be a small minority (as there always is) and ironically they gave out about people going into BvS with their minds made up.

The trailer definitely has be interested, I've never read any Strange comics so have no idea how magic works in the Marvel Universe so I'm intrigued as to how they pull it off cinematically. I actually think that the riskiest thing about this film isn't the magic but the fact it's an origin story, and looks to be a fairly typical one as well.

BoJack Horseman

Was benedict doing an accent?

There was 1 line where he does, but later lines where he doesn't (unless that's another actor?).

Also, it's noticeable how non-American actors try to nail the accent by chewing the letter 'r' for an extra moment.

Kiith

I thought that was a pretty good teaser. Glad it looks different to the usual Marvel trailers.

Giggernaut

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Was benedict doing an accent?

There was 1 line where he does, but later lines where he doesn't (unless that's another actor?).

Also, it's noticeable how non-American actors try to nail the accent by chewing the letter 'r' for an extra moment.

I found the accent almost identical to Hugh Laurie's in House.

I liked the trailer, plenty more fantastical moments to come in later trailers and the film. Plenty of acting talent on hand to pull this through....I hope!

Kur4mA

I couldn't give 2 ****s about how his accent sounds tbh.

This is a fantastic trailer imo, even if there are similarities to The Matrix and Inception.

Bacchus

It's also worth pointing out that the shots we see in the teaser trailer are mostly confined to what looks like the early "origin" scenes. Plenty more to come I'd say though it is quite nice (for now) to have a trailer not spoil everything.

johnny_ultimate

I read a funny but accurate critique of superhero origin stories recently: every film has characters with back stories the audience aren't familiar with, but superhero films are some of the only ones that insist on telling said back stories :pac:

constitutionus

oh hell yeah !

im up for this one. the visuals will be key in this so i doubt weve seen anything of real substance in that trailer, just enough to entice. got more of a "matrix" vibe off it TBH than inception, what with the whole "the world isnt what you think it is", and i cant wait to see the genuine magic stuff show up.

its certainly the riskiest one since THOR but im not getting that "ghostbusters" vibe off it so far and am interested to see where they go.

Mitch Connor

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I read a funny but accurate critique of superhero origin stories recently: every film has characters with back stories the audience aren't familiar with, but superhero films are some of the only ones that insist on telling said back stories :pac:

Because the origin of how someone got superpowers or became superman is more of a story than how Sandra in "Whatever Movie" did in college in order to get her nice job.

How someone gets their powers is usually a massive part of who the character is and why they act as they do - I see no issue with origin stories in general. The problem I have is when/if they devote most of a movie to it - and tell the same basic story we have seen before. The last Spider Man reboot a case in point - had they given him a significantly different origin (hinted at with regards his dad, dna and possible pre-condition which allowed him to become Spider Man) it would have been fine - but it was edited down to basically the same one with saw with Toby McGuire just a few years previously.

Dr Strage is a new character to most - how he became/becomes one of the most powerful beings in the marvel universe is a story that should be told, and not just skipped past in order to not do an origin movie.

Kur4mA

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I read a funny but accurate critique of superhero origin stories recently: every film has characters with back stories the audience aren't familiar with, but superhero films are some of the only ones that insist on telling said back stories :pac:

This definitely is accurate, but so many characters from comic books are driven by their origin story that I think it is really quite important. Think of Spiderman, Hulk, Wolverine, Captain America, Batman, Fantastic Four, Iron Man... the list goes on.

Without the origin story, most superheroes would be boring tbh. So you felt like fighting crime then threw on some spandex? Meh. The differing motivations and origins is in my opinion one of the only things that keeps Marvel and to a lesser extent DC movies interesting.

constitutionus

plus IIRC he was a pryk before the accident so he goes through a fairly decent character arc to become the man he is today.

i reckon ALOT of medical lads will recognize his type from their temp days in hospital . egomania and consultants seem to go hand in hand.

I really like the character and the J. Michael Straczynski 6 part Strange series is one of the few Marvel stories I've really enjoyed but that trailer is just so generic and dull. It looks like every someone saw the work of Christopher Nolan and decided to remake it, Cumberbatch looks just like Bale did in Begins and much of the surroundings could be the set used for his training scenes. And then you have the cities folding inward, the whole thing seems indebted to Nolan and even then it just comes across looking boring.

Osmosis Jones

I feel the same way about this movie as I did about Guardians, couldn't care less. In saying that, Guardians is now probably my favourite MCU movie so I'm happy to go into this with no expectations.

Corholio

One of the few future Marvel ones I was quite looking forward to before seeing anything about it. The trailer looks really good and does a great job of teasing the teachings of the character. I knew Nolan would be mentioned after seeing the cities like that but sequences like that were there before Nolan and I think unless you have it on a different planet, due to the huge amount of superhero movies, you can always make a comparison.

I knew the poster was familiar

SnakePlissken

FortuneChip wrote: »

Not a lot to be enthused or critical of it - seemed a very generic trailer.
That said, Cumberbatch is probably the most talented actor (save Bale) to play a superhero, so happy to wait until release day.

Ed Norton and Robert Downey say hello

Ben Gadot

Looks decent, even if I'm still underwhelmed by Cumberbatch casting. No disrespect to the guy but he's probably the most safest hiring Marvel have made thus far. I remember when Keanu Reeves was linked to the role before Benedict was cast and that news had me genuinely excited.

I'm looking forward to watching Swinton and Mads do their thing anyway.

OwaynOTT

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Ed Norton and Robert Downey say hello

Baptista also says hello.

Mickeroo

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Looks decent, even if I'm still underwhelmed by Cumberbatch casting. No disrespect to the guy but he's probably the most safest hiring Marvel have made thus far. I remember when Keanu Reeves was linked to the role before Benedict was cast and that news had me genuinely excited.

I'm looking forward to watching Swinton and Mads do their thing anyway.

Reeves would have been miscast imo, Comberbatch is perfect for the role on paper from what I know of the character.

Links234

I honestly can't say I'm enthused by that trailer what so ever, it was incredibly generic and dull. Not that I'm prejudging the movie, Marvel have done pretty well, but the feeling the trailer evoked in me was a profound sense of meh.

JP Liz V1

Mickeroo wrote: »

Reeves would have been miscast imo, Comberbatch is perfect for the role on paper from what I know of the character.

Wasn't Johnny Depp and Joaquin Phoenix also linked to this role, would have liked to see how Joaquin especially would fare in a superhero role like this

The trailer is very Nolan ish but hoping the full trailer will be better

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

Reeves would have been miscast imo, Comberbatch is perfect for the role on paper from what I know of the character.

Strange goes from grade A w@nker to a somber, introspective and knowledgeable authority figure. Now I loves me a bit of Reeves (Wick being my favourite action based film of late) but that's not a role for him.

Cumberbatch is safe because he does fit the role and there's nothing wrong with that

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Wasn't Johnny Depp and Joaquin Phoenix also linked to this role, would have liked to see how Joaquin especially would fare in a superhero role like this

The trailer is very Nolan ish but hoping the full trailer will be better

Phoenix would certainly have been able to give that air of detached arrogance (which I always attribute to even later Strange)

Duggy747

Forgot Mads was in this, otherwise a generic enough trailer.

I haven't been paying much attention to this film but I happened to wander into a part of Twitter this morning where I saw there's an intense hatred for it existing because of the casting and lack of Asians in it, casting Tilda seems to be major sore point which I'm sure will come up again closer to release.

FortuneChip

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Ed Norton and Robert Downey say hello

I'll give you Ed Norton - although he's a fairly wasted talent these days. (edit - he was the best thing in Birdman tough, and Moonrise Kingdom was pretty good too)

Honestly I think RDJ was perfectly cast as Tony Stark, but seeing his name attached to a movie would never be a big selling point to me. Not saying Zodiac & Chaplin aren't great, as well as some other good roles like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but I'd more likely be enthused about a new Cumberbatch movie than something he was in.

JP Liz V1

FortuneChip wrote: »

I'll give you Ed Norton - although he's a fairly wasted talent these days. (edit - he was the best thing in Birdman tough, and Moonrise Kingdom was pretty good too)

Honestly I think RDJ was perfectly cast as Tony Stark, but seeing his name attached to a movie would never be a big selling point to me. Not saying Zodiac & Chaplin aren't great, as well as some other good roles like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but I'd more likely be enthused about a new Cumberbatch movie than something he was in.

Ruffalo is great at Hulk now better than Norton or Bana for me

TerrorFirmer

I wasn't sure about this movie and now I'm even less sure after that trailer - it's so unbelievably generic, it doesn't tick any boxes at all. Having said that it is only a first trailer.

They're really damned if the do or don't. Reveal too much and scorn, release too little and apathy.

Exactly how are they to do it with subject matter like Strange without giving away too much?

TerrorFirmer

I haven't the faintest clue who Dr. Strange is broadly speaking. My comment is purely based on the trailer as a means to sell me a movie. And it's a bad trailer in my opinion, doesn't pique my interest...at all. Not sure how you can somehow equate positive/negative feedback to how much of a plot that any given trailer reveals. That's a ridiculous yardstick.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

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Also Starring LeVar Burton

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Also Starring LeVar Burton

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Sad Professor

They should have called this Inception 2: Doctor Strange Begins.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

I've never been familiar with Doctor Strange, so wasn't as hyped for this as some of the other Marvel's that have preceded it, but having watched the cast on stage together at SDCC and seeing the latest Trailer, I'm now sufficiently buzzed for this.

brianregan09

Sad Professor wrote: »

They should have called this Inception 2: Doctor Strange Begins.

Doc Strange comics have been around years maybe Christopher nolan read a few

pixelburp

Yeah; really finding it hard to muster enthusiasm for this one. Between the heads behind it & the premise, it just looks too bland and iffy. My prejudice against magic is hard to shake.

constitutionus

im really looking forward to this one.

guardians of the galaxy is probably the only other property marvel have right now that has as much potential for universe building and scope. lets be honest no matter how good the new spidey is gonna be he aint meeting mephisto.

Dr Strange can.

i can see alot of heavy lifting for the more cosmic set up for infinity war being done in these films.

cant wait.

Bacchus

constitutionus wrote: »

im really looking forward to this one.

guardians of the galaxy is probably the only other property marvel have right now that has as much potential for universe building and scope. lets be honest no matter how good the new spidey is gonna be he aint meeting mephisto.

Dr Strange can.

i can see alot of heavy lifting for the more cosmic set up for infinity war being done in these films.

cant wait.

Agreed. Strange is the platform to setup the next stage for the MCU. They've gradually opened up the space opera side of things, and now they are opening up the magic/cosmic realm side of things (which Ant-Man also touched on). Like GotG, this is another big risk/big reward title for them. I'm on-board though, love the visuals.

MisterAnarchy

Looks like Marvel could be returning to making decent movies with this one ,it looks stunning.

michelleryan86

Sad Professor wrote: »

They should have called this Inception 2: Doctor Strange Begins.

I had a very similar thought when watching the trailer!

Mr E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyUYPGG3KuY

Shaping up to be another Marvel misfire, it looks like Inception by way of Batman Begins with dodgier accents and less inspired action scenes. I had high hopes that this would do something interesting with a lesser known character but nope, it appears to be another overly familiar origins story that appears to be something akin to what The Asylum does, only on a bigger budget.