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Doctor Strange

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The Inception-esque scenes do show some visual promise; with the mystical element there's surely some scope to allow a little flourish behind the MCU's cameras. I don't have any belief they will but I'd love to be proven wrong. The cinematography couldn't be any more dull than the Russo Brothers' attempts though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    ive a feeling theyre holding back on the visual effects stuff.

    this close to the films release theres no point showing more than the inceptionesque stuff as its enough to get the punter in. but anyone that knows the comics knows strange is all over "other realms" with weird physics so i'd be surprised if its not done.

    did like that joke in the last trailer though.

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    theyre starting to show a little more in the TVspots

    stuff like
    him messing with time and how the cape seems to have a personality

    its not too bad but TBH were that close to the release now i think ill avoid em from now on so i can enjoy seeing it in the film.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus




    yeah now this is what i was looking for.

    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus




    very brief vid her containing stuff weve already really seen in the trailer but gives a nice look at the acting on display.

    looking forward to the snarkiness this seems to imply.

    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,054 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Out next week, and have been avoiding anything about it since initially being underwhelmed by the trailer.

    As its Marvel, I'll definitely go see it, but can't help but not be that excited about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    When will reviews be out? Kind if thinking its a wait and see on this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,054 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    ^ Tonight apparently..


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    yeah out tuesday.

    bit of a mad day for a release if ya ask me but hey. vue are putting on 14 shows the first day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,007 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Tickets booked for Tuesday afternoons viewing can't wait.

    Kind of hoping no one else thinks of looking for a Tuesday starting date and I'll have the cinema to myself :) As of now I do :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    Tickets booked for Tuesday afternoons viewing can't wait.

    Kind of hoping no one else thinks of looking for a Tuesday starting date and I'll have the cinema to myself :) As of now I do :)

    Doesnt seem to be much hype about this compared to the other marvel movies. Tuesday is great because it 2 for €10. Work next day is a problem but then I work in a library and it will probably be staffless by next Tuesday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Pretty psychodelic taste of the music



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,054 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    No official reviews until Sunday but early reactions seem positive!

    Link

    Lots of praise for action sequences and visuals, though lots claim the story is a tad formulaic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭Ryaller


    titan18 wrote: »
    When will reviews be out? Kind if thinking its a wait and see on this

    Reviews (Irish ones anyway) are embargoed until Tuesday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    oooh nice little look at the combat we can expect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,007 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Reviews are coming out and they seem strong from what I can see without reading any off them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Reviews are coming out and they seem strong from what I can see without reading any off them.


    I've seen several critics on Twitter raving about the VFX


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    got the tickets for tomorrow night.

    cant wait.

    :D

    apparently the score is meant to be brillant with many saying its the first in an age to make an impact. im going to see it in 2d with the bro as his buggered up eye means 3D aint an option for him but even people that HATE 3D seem to say its eyepopping in this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    From review so far., I gather the characters and story are pretty formulaic (which was obvious from the trailers) but the visuals and action are by the far the best Marvel have done so far.

    So, I'm predicting the thread will be divided between those who feel the visuals are enough to make up for a substandard plot and those who don't. I'm seeing it later today and my anticipation is higher than it was, based on what I've heard. I never thought I'd say this but I'm almost regretting not getting a ticket for a 3d showing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭Ryaller


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    I never thought I'd say this but I'm almost regretting not getting a ticket for a 3d showing.

    In fairness the 3D aspect isn't completely redundant. I never thought I'd say that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    I liked it a lot. There's a pretty cool inversion on the act 3 action which I won't spoil, but it was real neat. It's also gorgeous and totally worth seeing in imax. Two post credits scenes.
    Only MCU wide references were a throw away reference to the avengers, and another infinity stone! So he'll be showing up in infinity wars I assume

    Post credits were Thor and Doctor Strange, then Mordo turning evil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Just back. By feck it looks absolutely AMAZING. Cannot praise the visuals enough. Some of the sequences are jaw dropping.

    The movie as a whole is let down a bit by a so so script, and a large amount of jokes fall flat.

    Worth a watch though. Go see it in the cinema, it needs to be seen on the biggest screen you can find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Thought it was brilliant - I really knew piss all about Doctor Strange going into so didn't really know what to expect, but probably ended up being my favourite of the MCU Origins stories so far...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Tefral


    As a movie I thought it was good! Very self contained. The visuals were brilliant, like a mix of the matrix, inception and a small bit of acid.
    They strayed quite far from the comics in parts. I think they didnt quite make him out to be as much of a dickhead, only referenced it. Very hard to buy into the character in the movie versus the comics.

    I liked the way in the fight scene with Mordo, he mentions the staff of the living tribunal which is a subtle way of introducing a power beyond. If you want to know what that is, it is a giant yellow body with a detached head with many faces. It turned up to help the heroes defeat Thanos when he got the Gauntlet.

    This may be explained when they inevitably introduce the concept of Mistress Death as Thanos' motivation to get the stones and the Gauntlet.

    No mention of Stranges dead sister either, which is why his fear of failure is there as she died on his Operating Table.


    There is a mid credit scene and a post credit scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,007 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I really enjoyed.

    One annoying thing was Cumberbatch's accent irritated at times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    just back from it myself.

    my impressions of it during the film were :

    *ok here we go.

    *hmmm its a bit naff. not sure if i like this.

    *ooh thats nice . its getting better.

    *jesus h christ !

    *that was bloody brilliant. im going again for the 3D !

    :D:D:D:D:D

    in other words its a bit of a slow burner to start with, clunky even, but once you get to the training bit it kicks into high gear and my GOD are the visual worth it.

    the final battle is an amazing bit of choreography and one of the most inventive ive seen in an age. i can see why reviewers were name checking "the matirx" . but i love, LOVE how he beats the big bad in the end.

    like civil war its not some city being dropped on a guy, its brains, and its all the more fun for it.

    8/10 from me.

    i can see its flaws ,and i can see why some may not like it, but by god to get where they were at the end from where they started is some achievement. your literally going from the "normal" world to one with concepts way waaaaay out there and the fact they can bring the audience along with it without it seeming forced is some feat.

    and they name drop left right and centre characters that IMO are gonna turn up in avengers infinty war. theyre deffo setting up for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 804 ✭✭✭doubledown


    Just out and it's a big meh from me

    I'll keep this short as I'm very tired and it's nearly bedtime.

    First off, the theatre was almost empty. I know it's a Tuesday but it's still opening night. That can't be a good sign, can it?

    Most of humour fell flat for me. I found Cumerbatch's American twang highly distracting. The plot is paper-thin. The villain is weak and forgettable. And by the end it just feels like another dull, vanilla origin story. And yes, there are both mid and post-credit scenes. If you have seen the trailers you have seen the movie. No surprises. Visually it is very impressive but not worth the price of admission.

    I really have nothing else to say about this. I have forgotten most of it already. I'll be very interested to see how the general public perceive this and if it is a commercial success or not. I predict a strong opening followed by a very sharp decline.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    doubledown wrote: »
    First off, the theatre was almost empty. I know it's a Tuesday but it's still opening night. That can't be a good sign, can it?

    Where was this? I was at a 7 showing in Cineworld and there wasn't an empty seat to be had.

    I really enjoyed it. Loved the inventiveness and the visuals. The final confrontation was pure genius and much better than the usual fare we get from these films (
    Reminded me of Heaven Sent in the most recent series of Doctor Who. Anyone know who voiced Dormammu?
    )

    I caught a few of the Easter Eggs
    Rhodey was oviously the war vet suffering paralysis that Strange's colleague was talking about on the phone in the car, but who was the girl with controlled schizophrenia who'd been struck by lightning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    The reviews for this film have been confusing since the start.

    Very little shades of grey. Either good or bad, not really a range of opinion. I've been borderline on wanting to go since before the reviews and not sure.

    My take away from what I've read so far is...
    - good acting
    - good special effects
    - good introduction to characters
    - lacklustre story

    Is it too ripped off from inception, too paper thin, too much marvel before it... what?

    I was worried about Cumberbatch cos he didn't come out shining from Neu Star Trek 2. Sounds like he has done ok.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Slydice wrote: »
    Is it too ripped off from inception, too paper thin, too much marvel before it... what?

    In fairness, it is influenced by Inception but it pumps it up to 11! And that's also just one facet of the dimensional magic on display. Can't wait for a sequel so we explore the other dimensions merely glimpsed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    yeah.

    TBH as a transformers fan all i could think of was when that sequence was REALLY kicking off is "this is what a battle inside metroplex would look like if he was transforming all around you"

    i can see bay or someone else ripping it off down the road.

    :D

    but as mentioned its more involved than the inception tag its got. this was the point i started thinking of "the matrix


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Oh by the way one thing i REALLY did appreciate in this was
    the "astral plane fight" in the ER. ive been wating YEARs for something like that to show up in an XMEN film from prof X to no avail. its a cracking little fight made all the more enjoyable to me in that it didnt expect it at all.

    well that and
    going to the other dimensions. there really was some nice meaty stuff on that front . particularly at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I enjoyed it although I don't get out much with the wife without the kids so that might have something to do with it. A solid 7/10.

    Visuals were a little dizzy at times but I remember finding inception tough to stomach first time around so like other posters I might try to get to this in 3D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Drove from kilkenny to waterford after a long hard slog in work, big marvel fan, got down to be told that cinema had a blackout snd couldnt play it, so found another cinema who were showing it in 2d instead, really enjoyed the movie, gpt back to kk only to found outmy mates missed their bus back home from dublin airport and off I went to collect them, got back to kk at 3.30 and in for work at 8.30. If it wasnt for Dr.Strange being awesome I would be seriously annoyed right now!

    Seriously the people that came up with those action sequences need to be applauded as imo it is utter genius to be able to come up with those concepts and then pulling it off. Just relaying the action in my head im dumbfounded!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Just back from it and I liked it. It's not as good as something like Civil War imo, and of course you have the typical Marvel finale, but the action scenes are quite inventive, and I think Cumberbatch is good as Doctor Strange. Don't think it'll play as well on small screen as story is rather generic, but special effects are good enough that it's worth seeing in the cinema.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    There was no 3d show today so 2d for me. I need to go again with a bag of shrooms :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭Imnotthehulk


    Caught in the Imax the other night and thought it was pretty damn good. Not amongst the best of the Marvel films ... but not too far behind.

    The only thing that let it down for me was:
    The climactic fight ending in Strange bargaining with Dormamu, felt just a bit flat to me

    Still a film I would recommend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    doubledown wrote: »
    Just out and it's a big meh from me

    I'll keep this short as I'm very tired and it's nearly bedtime.

    First off, the theatre was almost empty. I know it's a Tuesday but it's still opening night. That can't be a good sign, can it?

    I know for me personally I'm just going to give this a miss in the cinema. A character I'm not really familiar with and I've grown a little tired of the MCU formula so my assumption was it would be more of the same.

    Although now its actually out havnt heard a bad word said about it from friends who went and would have similar interest and opinions to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Tefral


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I know for me personally I'm just going to give this a miss in the cinema. A character I'm not really familiar with and I've grown a little tired of the MCU formula so my assumption was it would be more of the same.

    Although now its actually out havnt heard a bad word said about it from friends who went and would have similar interest and opinions to me

    If your going to watch it go to the cinema, i dont think it will scale down right! Trust me its worth seeing for the visuals


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    TheDoc wrote: »
    I know for me personally I'm just going to give this a miss in the cinema. A character I'm not really familiar with and I've grown a little tired of the MCU formula so my assumption was it would be more of the same.

    Although now its actually out havnt heard a bad word said about it from friends who went and would have similar interest and opinions to me

    What MCU formula?

    Genuine question; just wondering which aspect of the films you're talking about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Saw this last night... I've mixed feelings about it. One the one hand, I think has to be one of the dullest plots and scripts of an MCU movie so far. It would not be a spoiler to describe the first two acts of the movie scene by scene. It does pick up the in the final act though. Everything from the humour, to the character motivations, to unrealistic reactions to unbelievable things characters are seeing, to the plodding along story just failed to hit the mark for me. As an origins movie, it felt so rushed trying to get to part where Strange becomes a Master that it felt like a montage of the fewest number of key points they had to show in order to "get from here to there". That would be more forgivable if the script was actually good, instead it just lacked energy for me and I was a bit bored in that first half hour TBH.

    The big saving grace of this though is the visuals and the action. Once the magic gets going it is very inventive and mind bending in how it uses it. It really does bring something new to the MCU and it wasn't just a one trick pony, it managed to take a fresh approach to each and every fight scene. Another high point was how Strange ultimately
    beat the bad guy with the time loop. It was just a really inventive spin on how the hero beat the big bad.
    . I also quite enjoyed the cape. There was more personality in that cape than there was in any human character on screen.

    Overall, from a visuals point of view, this is up there with GotG. From an action point of view... I can't even compare it to anything else, it's just so completely different. The script is a lame duck though and IMO the worst script Marvel have put out to date. I enjoyed this but I doubt I'll be rushing back for a second viewing when it comes out on BluRay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,481 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I felt it odd that the Netflix Marvel stuff has now been removed from the MCU, with Rachel McAdams playing Christine Palmer, who was already a character in Dare Devil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,433 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I felt it odd that the Netflix Marvel stuff has now been removed from the MCU, with Rachel McAdams playing Christine Palmer, who was already a character in Dare Devil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.

    Was she? Which character was that in the shows?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    I felt it odd that the Netflix Marvel stuff has now been removed from the MCU, with Rachel McAdams playing Christine Palmer, who was already a character in Dare Devil, Jessica Jones and Luke Cage.

    Christine Palmer isn't in any of the Netflix shows. The night nurse in the shows is Claire Temple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,171 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I didn't like it. I thought there were some good moments but thought it was just too silly. Not so much the general tone. I'm not one of those who believe that every superhero move needs to be Dark Knight gritty.

    Plus:
    • Chwetel Ejiofor (Or however you spell it) was excellent. Gave a sense of gravitas to the movie. Bit obvious what his character arc is going to be though...
    • Effects were top notch. Saw it in 3D which I usually do not but that was the only time available to me. But thought the way the spells seemed to float before the characters was cool in 3D.
    • Action sequences were exciting and imaginative (As someone said "Inception up to 11").
    • "Mister Doctor" scenes
    • Credit scene. Will not spoiler.

    Minus:
    • Cumberbatch's accent. Terrible. Nasal.
    • Wong (at times). Just didn't like the whole Beyonce thing and the laugh at the end.
    • The fact he seemed to master his art over a long bank-holiday weekend.
    • The cloak kept reminding me of Aladdin's carpet in the Disney movie.
    • The (almost literal) Deus ex Machina end.
    • Ghost Fight
    • Every time they mentioned bad guy Dormamu I was waiting for a "Yo momma" joke. Just the way they pronounced it.

    I will be the first to admit that I know NOTHING about Doctor Strange and I see others loving the Astral Plane fight scene. I understand that readers will get a LOT more out of it than I did. But I just thought the overall tone was just a bit....... silly.

    In short: as a non-reader, I just didn't get it. But I can well understand that readers will probably like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Just back from the 3D IMAX showing in Cineworld. That was great!

    First: Watch it in 3D, Watch it on the big screen. Stay for the amusing Mid Credits scene :) Also stay for the important additional plot in the after credits scene!

    Next:
    That was good film. It was a well wrapped film. The special effects make the cinema trip worthwhile. They're the reason I'm saying big screen and have me 90% sure 3D is worth it for this one. Aaaand the music was good *deep breath* :)

    I went in thinking the story was gonna be plain but it wasn't. It introduced a new character, their world, their powers and all around it. It had a decent baddie story. Finally you could see where it linked into the greater Marvel arc but it could stand on its own if needed.

    Stan Lees cameo was good. Google the book he was reading after :)
    It was:
    I was struggling to figure out just why I liked it so much but on the way home the closest I came to was that it felt refreshingly newish kinda in that same way Guardians did though not the same amount.

    Can't believe
    they killed off Tilda Swinton, I was like totally thinking she was gonna be around for a few films
    :eek:
    Thor being in the mid credits and the infinity stone and the ominious music.. oh we're getting close to some big Marvel story stuff now... I can just feel it
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭Occono


    OSI wrote: »
    The character that is now Claire Temple was supposed to be
    Night Nurse
    in the TV shows, but it seems they got directions from above to change that to accommodate the movies.

    I did think at one point that she could just have been Claire if not for the unnecessary romance z-plot. (Maybe even with it she could, but I haven't finished Luke Cage yet.) I guess they really don't want any of the TV show characters to appear in the movies at all.

    What was the second credits scene I've heard about? I saw the mid credits one.

    I ended up seeing the movie even though I'm a bit fatigued by the MCU, just because it was really good timing for me to want to see a movie. I wish I had seen it in 2D because the Odeon in Limerick has no clue to project 3D movies properly. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Occono wrote: »
    What was the second credits scene I've heard about? I saw the mid credits one.

    It's on wiki as:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Strange_(film)
    In a post-credits scene, several months after the defeat of Dormammu, Mordo visits Pangborn and steals the energy he uses to walk, stating his intention to stop the continued misuse of power by Earth's sorcerers.
    Pangborn was left on the ground looking weak and disabled.

    The scene itself had the look of the workshop where Daredevil gets his suit made. I'm guessing though that it was just where Pangborn works. Mordo enters in a hoodiethat half reminded me of Luke Cage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Slydice wrote: »
    It's on wiki as:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Strange_(film)
    In a post-credits scene, several months after the defeat of Dormammu, Mordo visits Pangborn and steals the energy he uses to walk, stating his intention to stop the continued misuse of power by Earth's sorcerers.

    The last line of dialogue
    from Mordo "There are too many sorcerers in the world." also speaks to his intention to, not just stop the misuse of magic but take out those who use it too
    . ''Twas a good scene!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,277 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Revolved a day out in Dublin around seeing this in Imax.
    Worth it in my view, but any 3d screening will do. It really does need the 3d to be appreciated fully.
    The visuals make the film ahead of the plot and you know, sometimes that's no bad thing.


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