Poet, Activist, Parkinson's sufferer and Granny (79) gets jailed for 6 months.

Hilly Bill

My name is URL wrote: »

You do realise that Parkinson's is a progressive and degenerative disease and that a lot can change in 15 months?

But sure whatever you want to tell yourself.. she's probably lying about having that disease too :rolleyes:

I know about it well. Still deserves to be locked up though.

Joshua J

Skylinehead wrote: »

How does endangering lives protect lives?

Because she didn't really endanger lives more an inconvenience if anything. Now those bombers that refuel there they LITERALLY are a danger to life. Simple really.

bumper234

Joshua J wrote: »

Because she didn't really endanger lives more an inconvenience if anything. Now those bombers that refuel there they LITERALLY are a danger to life. Simple really.

You can keep saying she didn't but it has been proven in court and she was convicted BECAUSE she endangered lives!

ProfessorPlum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwGiiu0lWz4

So the IAA felt the protestors were endangering lives, the judge felt the protestors were endangering lives, pilots and aviation enthusiasts posting on this thread felt the protestors were endangering lives, hell, even the protestors themselves felt there was a threat to safety - they rang in the report of the protest to the airport police 'for safety reasons'. So just a few posters on this thread, with some fairly 'out there' systems of logic, seem to think there was no safety risk in what they did.

Joshua J

bumper234 wrote: »

You can keep saying she didn't but it has been proven in court and she was convicted BECAUSE she endangered lives!

And as I said don't pretend your happy she's in jail cause she endangered life, cause if ye cared about saving lives you'd be lying on the runway beside her.

ProfessorPlum

Joshua J wrote: »

Because she didn't really endanger lives more an inconvenience if anything. Now those bombers that refuel there they LITERALLY are a danger to life. Simple really.

What bombers? This could be interesting!

Joshua J

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

What bombers? This could be interesting!

Ah the pedant bot has arrived. Troop carriers then, is that ok with you?.

bumper234

Joshua J wrote: »

And as I said don't pretend your happy she's in jail cause she endangered life, cause if ye cared about saving lives you'd be lying on the runway beside her.

I am glad she is locked up for EXACTLY that reason, she broke the law and was jailed for it like any common criminal should be.

Skylinehead

Joshua J wrote: »

Because she didn't really endanger lives more an inconvenience if anything. Now those bombers that refuel there they LITERALLY are a danger to life. Simple really.

Are you immune to reading posts? The IAA came to a conclusion that she was indeed a danger to life, and I trust them a hell of a lot more than your incoherent ramblings. And you say that if I cared about lives then I'd be on the runway beside her. Were you there?

bumper234

Joshua J wrote: »

Ah the pedant bot has arrived.! Troop carriers then, is that ok with you?.

So passenger planes?

ProfessorPlum

Joshua J wrote: »

Ah the pedant bot has arrived. Troop carriers then, is that ok with you?.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument, eh?

Joshua J

bumper234 wrote: »

I am glad she is locked up for EXACTLY that reason, she broke the law and was jailed for it like any common criminal should be.

Did you blasphem today?. You know, take the lords name invain?. Did you speed today, even a few kph?. Have you downloaded a movie recently, a song maybe?. Do you like a smoke of the old ganje now and again?. Are you 100% lawful in all your activities?. if not I expect you to hand yourself into the authorities immediately. The law is the law after all.

bumper234

Joshua J wrote: »

Did you blasphem today?. You know, take the lords name invain?. Did you speed today, even a few kph?. Have you downloaded a movie recently, a song maybe?. Do you like a smoke of the old ganje now and again?. Are you 100% lawful in all your activities?. if not I expect you to hand yourself into the authorities immediately. The law is the law after all.

I did none of the above (I don't do drugs btw) but I guarantee no matter what I do it NEVER puts the lives of hundreds of innocent civilians in danger.

ProfessorPlum

Joshua J wrote: »

Did you blasphem today?. You know, take the lords name invain?. Did you speed today, even a few kph?. Have you downloaded a movie recently, a song maybe?. Do you like a smoke of the old ganje now and again?. Are you 100% lawful in all your activities?. if not I expect you to hand yourself into the authorities immediately. The law is the law after all.

Really? Are you advocating for a lawless society? Your argument is getting rather weak. Must try harder.

Joshua J

bumper234 wrote: »

I did none of the above (I don't do drugs btw) but I guarantee no matter what I do it NEVER puts the lives of hundreds of innocent civilians in danger.

You work for the IAA which facilitates the movement of US military equipment through shannon on a regular basis. I'm sorry to break it to you, but you endanger thousands of lives when you do that. You just use some mental gymnastics to deny it to yourself.

P.S You've never broken a law? Ever?

wexie

Joshua J wrote: »

Because she didn't really endanger lives more an inconvenience if anything. Now those bombers that refuel there they LITERALLY are a danger to life. Simple really.

There's American bombers in Shannon?

That's mad, you'd think they'd use any one of their US Air Force bases for those.
The ones scattered all around and in the Atlantic.

You wouldn't think they'd allow anything really important near an airport with security so shoddy that they'd have a 79 year old parkinsons sufferer swanning about the runways?

ProfessorPlum

Joshua J wrote: »

You work for the IAA which facilitates the movement of US military equipment through shannon on a regular basis. I'm sorry to break it to you, but you endanger thousands of lives when you do that. You just use some mental gymnastics to deny it to yourself.

P.S You've never broken a law? Ever?

Please elaborate on the bolded part. Do you consider people to be equipment?

wexie

Joshua J wrote: »

You work for the IAA which facilitates the movement of US military equipment through shannon on a regular basis. I'm sorry to break it to you, but you endanger thousands of lives when you do that. You just use some mental gymnastics to deny it to yourself.

P.S You've never broken a law? Ever?

that's some amazing leaps of logic you're taking.

I work for an American technology company that supplies technology (and lots of it) to every single arm of the US armed forces.

I guess by your logic that makes me a mass murderer?

Better go hand myself in to Gorey garda station and see what they say.....

bumper234

Joshua J wrote: »

You work for the IAA which facilitates the movement of US military equipment through shannon on a regular basis. I'm sorry to break it to you, but you endanger thousands of lives when you do that. You just use some mental gymnastics to deny it to yourself.

P.S You've never broken a law? Ever?

I don't facilitate jack **** my deluded friend, did you buy McDonalds lately? Maybe fill your car with petrol or diesel? Buy a product from an American company? Your money is going to FUND the American military machine!!! :eek:

I never said I have never broke the law I can categorically state for a fact though that I have never endangered hundreds of innocent civilian lives.

Joshua J

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

Really? Are you advocating for a lawless society? Your argument is getting rather weak. Must try harder.

Nope I'm calling you a hypocrite. You pick and choose which laws you support and which you don't. You break the law, guaranteed, on a weekly basis yet you don't say "The law is the law I'm going to hand myself in now".

Skylinehead

wexie wrote: »

that's some amazing leaps of logic you're taking.

I work for an American technology company that supplies technology (and lots of it) to every single arm of the US armed forces.

I guess by your logic that makes me a mass murderer?

Better go hand myself in to Gorey garda station and see what they say.....

I bought something American once, so I contributed taxes to their economy and hence their military. Oh well, off to jail I go

Joshua J

bumper234 wrote: »

I never said I have never broke the law I can categorically state for a fact though that I have never endangered hundreds of innocent civilian lives.

The law is the law. That's what you said. My work here is done.

ProfessorPlum

Joshua J wrote: »

Nope I'm calling you a hypocrite. You pick and choose which laws you support and which you don't. You break the law, guaranteed, on a weekly basis yet you don't say "The law is the law I'm going to hand myself in now".

And how am I different to you? Fellow 'hypocrite'. Whatever I may or may not do (which, by the way, you have no idea, and no business stating that I break the law on a weekly basis, so you might retract that), I have never endangered hundreds of lives and been a threat to the safety of aviation.

bumper234

Joshua J wrote: »

The law is the law. That's what you said. My work here is done.

Please show me where I said "the law is the law"

Joshua J

Skylinehead wrote: »

I bought something American once, so I contributed taxes to their economy and hence their military. Oh well, off to jail I go

Maybe you can circlejerk each other enough and expunge the blackness from your souls. I hear it's cathartic.

ProfessorPlum

Joshua J wrote: »

The law is the law. That's what you said. My work here is done.

'It's been made clear to me that I've no idea what I'm talking about' more like.
Off you go so.

wexie

bumper234 wrote: »

Please show me where I said "the law is the law"

I think he's confusing you with judge Dredd

wexie

Joshua J wrote: »

Maybe you can circlejerk each other enough and expunge the blackness from your souls. I hear it's cathartic.

gee....I haven't heard the term circlejerk since eh.....well....since I was in school really.

I guess that explains a few things

Joshua J

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

And how am I different to you? Fellow 'hypocrite'. Whatever I may or may not do (which, by the way, you have no idea, and no business stating that I break the law on a weekly basis, so you might retract that), I have never endangered hundreds of lives and been a threat to the safety of aviation.

I never said I was different. At least you've admitted your hypocrasy now. It's a start. See you around.

bumper234

Joshua J wrote: »

I never said I was different. At least you've admitted your hypocrasy now. It's a start. See you around.

NEXT!

Skylinehead

Joshua J wrote: »

Maybe you can circlejerk each other enough and expunge the blackness from your souls. I hear it's cathartic.

You never answered my question. Were you on that runway?

ProfessorPlum

Joshua J wrote: »

I never said I was different. At least you've admitted your hypocrasy now. It's a start. See you around.

Nope, I haven't. And it was just starting to be fun.

darkpagandeath

We should kick them Multi Nationals out then so ... Google, Microsoft , Dell many others.. I anit reading the whole thread but I cant see how a person who broke the law and was punished for it is relevant to funding the American war machine.... America has plenty of places to ship people, equipment to they don’t go through Shannon. Is there not a country next to us that is friendly to them ? Is it still the early stage of aviation ? Planes can fly a bit further now than they used to.

end of the road

wexie wrote: »

Which is good cause I'd say a lot of us would end up in the clink just for daring to disagree with him.

no

Skylinehead

Skylinehead wrote: »

I can imagine a conversation.

"But judge, the evidence clearly points to her being guilty"


"no it doesn't".

Repeat ad nauseum.

end of the road wrote: »

no

Waaaay!

blackwhite

end of the road wrote: »

not at all, the spaces need to be kept for rapists murderers and paedeophiles

Your hero and her buddies in Aosdana seem to disagree

end of the road

bumper234 wrote: »

So passenger planes?

troop carriers of states commiting terrorism aren't worth bothering about

end of the road

wexie wrote: »

that's some amazing leaps of logic you're taking.

I work for an American technology company that supplies technology (and lots of it) to every single arm of the US armed forces.

I guess by your logic that makes me a mass murderer?

Better go hand myself in to Gorey garda station and see what they say.....

no, but your a supplyer to terrorists

wexie

end of the road wrote: »

no, but your a supplyer to terrorists

You just keep getting funnier and funnier, will you be on tonight?
I might have to put a few extra beers in the fridge.

(it's not American beer if you're wondering)

bumper234

end of the road wrote: »

no, but your a supplyer to terrorists

Then so are you everytime you buy an American product and contribute to the military machine.

bumper234

wexie wrote: »

You just keep getting funnier and funnier, will you be on tonight?
I might have to put a few extra beers in the fridge.

(it's not American beer if you're wondering)

But budweiser is brewed in Dublin

ProfessorPlum

Presumably he's living a completely self sufficient life, off the grid, at the end of the road.

Skylinehead

end of the road wrote: »

no, but your a supplyer to terrorists

So are you, unless you've never bought an American product.

jimboblep

Joshua J wrote: »

The law is the law. That's what you said. My work here is done.

I agree with you totally if you break the law you should face the sanction so why do you have an issue with this lady facing the consequences of her actions

shruikan2553

Joshua J wrote: »

Nope I'm calling you a hypocrite. You pick and choose which laws you support and which you don't. You break the law, guaranteed, on a weekly basis yet you don't say "The law is the law I'm going to hand myself in now".

Try handing yourself in for blasphemy or downloading the latest one direction CD and see how the garda dealing with you reacts. Then try it with telling them you kicked in a door and wandered around a shopping center. Many countries have laws that arent actively enforced. Theres a state in america where if a woman is driving a man must run in front with a flag to warn people according to the law.

Im wondering how people supporting this woman would react if a plane carrying Irish soldiers went off the runway avoiding someone lying on the ground in a different country. They were just standing up for their principles.

Filibuster

Joshua J wrote: »

The law is the law. That's what you said. My work here is done.

You should be a human rights lawyer.

Sunnyisland

Filibuster wrote: »

You should be a human rights lawyer.

Are you joking, if that poster and a few others here were defending me I would just bring me own rope....

renegademaster

bumper234 wrote: »

Her crime was serious enough to warrant going to jail, you may not think so but then you are not the judge.

speaking of judges, judge curtin wasn't actually a pedophile because the garda got the wrong date on a search warrant!! one law for the connected, many laws to deal with us if we need to be silenced lol

renegademaster

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument, eh?

the first casualty of war is the truth, think about that for a minute

bumper234

renegademaster wrote: »

speaking of judges, judge curtin wasn't actually a pedophile because the garda got the wrong date on a search warrant!! one law for the connected, many laws to deal with us if we need to be silenced lol

*sigh*

Do you think she should be just set free? How about if an 80 year old robs a post office and gets caught should he be let off because he is old? What if you run into AIB on Monday and rob the place should you get off if you scream about the bastard bankers and say you intended to give it to the poor? She broke the law and endangered lives, she could have avoided jail and chose not to. Let her play the martyr she gets no sympathy from me.