Wii U / Nintendo general news and discussion

Retr0gamer

Nody wrote: »

I'm looking at the Wii U premium package with Super mario Brothers U and Super Luigi U in black having not played Mario for ages (I'm primary a PC player, only console I owed was a original Xbox donkey years ago); is that package worth going for or should I hold out and see what happens?

It's the one I got. Well worth it. Super Mario Bros WiiU is one of the finest mario games ever made. Not had a go of Luigi WiiU but I heard it's insanely tough!

sweetie

I really enjoyed luigi but I hadn't played the Mario version and I got some help from Nabbit here and there

Varik

Corholio wrote: »

In fairness if that's so, that says more about the masses than it does about Nintendo if they wouldn't appeal.

Great comment, Nintendo should use it.

It's not our fault that they don't like our games it their fault.

Retr0gamer

Varik wrote: »

Great comment, Nintendo should use it.

It's not our fault that they don't like our games it their fault.

Unfotunately that thinking won't make you much money.

Tipsy McSwagger

Surely Nintendo have to be at E3. They decided to skip it last year which turned out to be a stupidly arrogant thing to do. All they have to do is get Shigsy to walk on stage and show a new Zelda for WiiU and the internet will explode.

Retr0gamer

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Surely Nintendo have to be at E3. They decided to skip it last year which turned out to be a stupidly arrogant thing to do. All they have to do is get Shigsy to walk on stage and show a new Zelda for WiiU and the internet will explode.

Probably saved them a ridiculous amount of money in the long run and their Nintendo Direct was great.

richymcdermott

There is no right or wrong opinion on the wii u , just simply an opinion.

Some will argue nintendo wii u is lacking too many basic features such as a hard drive, basic online network that yet nintendo first party yet used after its first year on the market.

Others say they have no interest in it because unless you like nintendo games there is simply no appeal to the system.

Then you have the people that do love it and see its potential and love the games.

I feel the blame on nintendo and on Iwata is wrong , even with alot of so called journalist shifting the blame on miyamoto which I cannot understand, none of the journalist or analyst who claim to know the solution to wii u woes have the right answers even if they believe so.

Nintendo only faults they have is the marketing of the console and failing to show off what the gamepad can do than just be a map or off screen play.
The vita can do the same thing now albeit not as good as the wii u but similarities in capabilities leaves nintendo to really think outside the box if they wish to show true imagitivie games to really sell to consumersnold and new.

3rd party I feel should take majority of the blame in this matter for lack of titles on wii u than nintendo getting the blame.

Complaints towards nintendo for the big gaps in its first year without games was unjust considering at e3 2012 likes of ea said they bring the likes of battlefield 3 to the console but never came . They released a 3rd installment of a trilogy with me3 to the wiiu while giving the ps3 and 360 the trilogy bundle then complain it didnt sell despite the consumer base being small.

Then you have ubisoft , one of nintendo biggest 3rd party supporters who orginally was suppose to release rayman legends in feb but was delayed till september.

Ive no doubt nintendo were hoping to have these 3rd party titles to fill the gaps till their first party games were done.

Lets not forget sniper elite , injustice , batman origins and other 3rd party games all missing features even basic features on wii u to ps3 and 360 counterparts then come out and say well it didnt sell so we wont be our other games to the system.

Wii u is stuck in a limbo like a child being told you have potential but you should change everything about you or you have no future.

Only thing nintendo can do is show once again like the gamecube , virtual boy and n64 that it deserves a place in peoples homes.

Tipsy McSwagger

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Probably saved them a ridiculous amount of money in the long run and their Nintendo Direct was great.

More like it cost them money since nobody watched it and the WiiU flopped big time.

Allyall

Nody wrote: »

I'm looking at the Wii U premium package with Super mario Brothers U and Super Luigi U in black having not played Mario for ages (I'm primary a PC player, only console I owed was a original Xbox donkey years ago); is that package worth going for or should I hold out and see what happens?

I think the console will go down a bit more, but it depends on whether or not you think that also means Nintendo will if you wait.

The premium 32GB with Nintendo Land is currently selling in France in many stores for €149.
Many other massive discounts on the various Wii U bundles over there. I'd imagine those will come this direction soon. They have had tons of them over there, anyone that ever fancied a Wii U in France, at this stage would have one.

Retr0gamer

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

More like it cost them money since nobody watched it and the WiiU flopped big time.

E3 is about getting press coverage and all the media outlets covered the direct presentation.

readyletsgo

So whats the story with the VC?

What do people see it being like in 3/4 years time? We will see DS and GBA games on it for sure as they said they want them on there but GBA was confirmed over a year ago now so.....

N64 will be there no doubt, but what about all of Sega's systems? Like 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast? I want to see them on the VC. I think Gamecube games wont turn up on the VC tbh. Some games from that system are ripe for HD remakes in my eyes (SMS), after seeing LoZ-WW and I hope they are workin on a few to release maybe 2 a year on disk.

I remember a rumour last year saying that Nintendo were remaking about 6 N64 games into HD for release, think it was on IGN and Nintendolife or somewhere, that would sound good to me too. Anymore word on that?

I know I don't want the Wii U to become a remake machine but come on, we would buy these remakes and Ninty know it.

3rd party Dev's, I think its over guys, hopefully Ninty have loads or new games this year for the Wii U and turn it around just like they did with the 3DS in 2012/13.


And also, I have a feeling Watch_Dogs development for the Wii U was cancelled about 8 months ago by Ubisoft, they are just delaying saying its the only system that's not getting the game.

Vyse

richymcdermott wrote: »

3rd party I feel should take majority of the blame in this matter for lack of titles on wii u than nintendo getting the blame.

But is it not up to Nintendo to get the 3rd party developers on board? All these developers/ publishers are in the business of making money. If Nintendo can't demonstrate that their platform will offer a return for their investment than the likelyhood is that they will look elsewhere.

I know the argument can be made that a lot of 3rd party publisher released a sub-standard product but the likes of EA where never going to invest a lot of money into their initial WiiU offerings. Those that did invest (ZombiU) found that there investment was not profitable.

Nintendo's realtionship with 3rd party publishers/ developers has been diminishing since the 16-bit days, a situation which they will be hard pressed to reverse.

nesf

Retr0gamer wrote: »

E3 is about getting press coverage and all the media outlets covered the direct presentation.

Well, Nintendo is big enough to ignore E3. It's also ignored by most specialist groups aimed at small genres. It's only mandatory for large publishers and people wanting to do cross-platform stuff that dips into the mainstream market to some extent. Bethesda will be there, Obsidian Entertainment won't be (they both publish RPGs on PC but one does cross-platform for everyone kind of stuff and the other is doing an old-school isometric RPG next which was funded via Kickstarter and Paypal to the tune of over 4 million).

Retr0gamer

Vyse wrote: »

But is it not up to Nintendo to get the 3rd party developers on board? All these developers/ publishers are in the business of making money. If Nintendo can't demonstrate that their platform will offer a return for their investment than the likelyhood is that they will look elsewhere.

I know the argument can be made that a lot of 3rd party publisher released a sub-standard product but the likes of EA where never going to invest a lot of money into their initial WiiU offerings. Those that did invest (ZombiU) found that there investment was not profitable.

Nintendo's realtionship with 3rd party publishers/ developers has been diminishing since the 16-bit days, a situation which they will be hard pressed to reverse.

It's a self perpetuating cycle at this stage really. Sales are low on WiiU therefore 3rd partys ignore it which makes people ignore it. Really what can Nintendo do about it other than throwing money at developers and funding development which they are doing with a few games like Bayonetta 2. However they can't realistically do that for everything. Nintendo needs to get WiiU sales up as much as possible so developers will start looking to make games for it.

Publishers on the other hand only care about sales. They don't care that their after thought ports of year old games didn't sell on the WiiU all they care is that they didn't sell adn see no market on the machine.

Courtesy Flush

I saw the WIIU Premium pack on Amazon with Mario and Luigi for around €290.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-Super-Mario-Luigi-Premium/dp/B00FS23T26/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392130954&sr=8-2&keywords=wii+u

Is there a new Mario Kart game on the way ?

Josey Wales

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

I saw the WIIU Premium pack on Amazon with Mario and Luigi for around €290.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-Super-Mario-Luigi-Premium/dp/B00FS23T26/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1392130954&sr=8-2&keywords=wii+u

Is there a new Mario Kart game on the way ?

Mario Kart 8 is due to arrive in May I think. There are gameplay videos out there you can look at. Looks great.

gaynorvader

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It's a self perpetuating cycle at this stage really. Sales are low on WiiU therefore 3rd partys ignore it which makes people ignore it. Really what can Nintendo do about it other than throwing money at developers and funding development which they are doing with a few games like Bayonetta 2. However they can't realistically do that for everything. Nintendo needs to get WiiU sales up as much as possible so developers will start looking to make games for it.

Publishers on the other hand only care about sales. They don't care that their after thought ports of year old games didn't sell on the WiiU all they care is that they didn't sell adn see no market on the machine.

It might be good if they offered a good platform for indie games to publish on, or at least made it more appealing. It's certainly worked out well for Valve, Ms and Sony.

Corholio

gaynorvader wrote: »

It might be good if they offered a good platform for indie games to publish on, or at least made it more appealing. It's certainly worked out well for Valve, Ms and Sony.

They have already done both. Loads of indie games planned for Wii U this year, lots of developers have been praising Nintendo for this.

gaynorvader

Corholio wrote: »

They have already done both. Loads of indie games planned for Wii U this year, lots of developers have been praising Nintendo for this.

That's great, I had missed that. Definitely a good step in the right direction. The only problem now is that the Wii U has such a small amount of space for these games. Maybe allow you to hook up an external HDD?

cloud493

Plenty of good stuff on the way for Wii U I own all 3 consoles in fact, and I play the Wii U more than any of them, its superb.

Fakman87

Do you guys think that Nintendos next console will have similar specs to its rivals?

DARK-KNIGHT

Fakman87 wrote: »

Do you guys think that Nintendos next console will have similar specs to its rivals?

What in 6/7 years time?

Courtesy Flush

I guess most people who buy a WIIU are happy to play mainly Nintendo games. They also might see the Wii as a more family friendly type of console
Personally I would use it as a second console, just not sure if I would wait for a WiiU price drop or not

Tipsy McSwagger

I wouldn't consider a WiiU as a second console since both the PS4 & X1 are actually a step back from the PS3 & 360. For me the WiiU is a perfect accompaniment to a decent PC.

tok9

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I wouldn't consider a WiiU as a second console since both the PS4 & X1 are actually a step back from the PS3 & 360. For me the WiiU is a perfect accompaniment to a decent PC.

That's a bit of a silly statement. Couldn't you say the exact same thing for the Wii instead of a WiiU?

gugleguy

My only console is the 3DS XL. It can record 3d movies and has an Art Package, Art Academy. Guess where I want Nintendo to concentrate its resources.

Pac1Man

gugleguy wrote: »

My only console is the 3DS XL. It can record 3d movies and has an Art Package, Art Academy. Guess where I want Nintendo to concentrate its resources.

I have one myself and loving it. I think the Wii U needs Nintendo's attention a lot more than the 3DS though. I'd be happy with a slow but steady stream of titles for the 3DS to keep it ticking away nicely. In my opinion a successful Nintendo home console is vital.

Tipsy McSwagger

tok9 wrote: »

That's a bit of a silly statement. Couldn't you say the exact same thing for the Wii instead of a WiiU?

Yes you could, 5 years ago when the wii was relevant.

tok9

You could say it right now... does the same and has a better catalogue of games..

jones

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

I wouldn't consider a WiiU as a second console since both the PS4 & X1 are actually a step back from the PS3 & 360. For me the WiiU is a perfect accompaniment to a decent PC.

Huh?? how are the PS4/X1 a step back from PS3/360?

For the record I own PS4 and wiiU aswell as ps3