Ryanair Changing Their Ways?

listermint

Rubylolz wrote: »

If at all possible, I will avoid flying Ryanair. Hate the bright yellow colour, hate the hurry hurry aspect - always leaves me wondering if they have checked the plane fully before they let it off again! but then again you get what you pay for

Yes you get what you pay for. Most flights in the air. More flying hours. More hours on the planes but yet still maintaining a high safety rating...

ringadingding

ted1 wrote: »

Any time we've flown with kids they have been great. I wouldn't base the whole airline on one bad staff member

It was just the whole thing, it's all so uncomfortable / angst filled

Bepolite

listermint wrote: »

Yes you get what you pay for. Most flights in the air. More flying hours. More hours on the planes but yet still maintaining a high safety rating...

They're one of the biggest Airlines in the world when you take the number of flights and they have huge loads on the Aircraft given the short hops. I actually know a couple of pilots who fly for them and a couple (literally married couple) that fly for other airlines who wouldn't be too complimentary about the way the recruit the first officers.

The Captains on the the other hand are pretty good and their safety record is outstanding for the type of airline they are (short hops rather than cheap). They know they have to keep their safety record or it would potentially bust the airline.

Smidge

Larianne wrote: »

Oh! Didn't think that was the reason.. bit of a u-turn by O Leary so.



You can carry on one bag (the regular carry on size) and a second smaller carry on, for free. Been this way since before Christmas.

Now the cabins are packed with luggage. They were trying to get people to check in bags for free the last time I flew with them.

Ah right(its been a few years since I flew with them):)
So you can still have your carry on bag but instead of trying to stuff into handbag, purchases in carrier bag made in airport, you can now carry that on also?

ted1

ted1 wrote: »

Because I'll be spending the next few days with them non stop and I like my peace and quiet while flying

Great for you but can you understand why ill people, people on their way to funerals, nervous fliers and people who just like to chat might not think exactly like you?

Mint Aero

I don't like the service but I do like their planes. If I fly Aer Lingus when the plane descends I feel the blood vessels in my brain expand but never with Ryanair planes so much less pain

Sir Arthur Daley

Mint Aero wrote: »

I don't like the service but I do like their planes. If I fly Aer Lingus when the plane descends I feel the blood vessels in my brain expand but never with Ryanair planes so much less pain

You would never do if you were on an old propeller Aer Arainn vomit commet.

Mint Aero

WikiHow wrote: »

You would never do if you were on an old propeller Aer Arainn vomit commet.

I'd be on the floor in the foetal position clutching what's left of my exploded head in that instance

Sir Arthur Daley

I remember flying Aer Arainn from cork to Dublin and even on the finest day of the year they would hit turbulence, never again will i go on a prop plane.

iguana

ringadingding wrote: »

It was just the whole thing, it's all so uncomfortable / angst filled

Perhaps that's why your little one was crying. Babies know when their parents are stressed and it stresses them out even more. It would be way more upsetting than eating purée off a finger instead of a spoon.

Mint Aero

iguana wrote: »

Perhaps that's why your little one was crying. Babies know when their parents are stressed and it stresses them out even more. It would be way more upsetting than eating purée off a finger instead of a spoon.

Ah now, babies eat, poop and sleep. There isn't much more to them. May aswell say chimpanzees get upset over stressed parents.

Ryanair's number one priority by far is to make as much money as possible. So any "changes" are made in order to make as much money as possible.

Sir Arthur Daley

iguana wrote: »

It would be way more upsetting than eating purée off a finger instead of a spoon.

This is the biggest complaints babies make on Twitter.

SimonQuinlank

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ryanair's number one priority by far is to make as much money as possible. So any "changes" are made in order to make as much money as possible.

Every businesses number one priority is to make money,and Ryanair manage to make shedloads of it by charging reasonable prices and maintaining an excellent safety record.

SV

Deleted User wrote: »

Ryanair's number one priority by far is to make as much money as possible. So any "changes" are made in order to make as much money as possible.

You make that sound like the customer is going to lose out, which just isn't true.
They make small changes with minimal cost to them but massive improvement to customers, More customers want to fly with them.
More profits for them, more comfort for customers.
Everybody wins.

whiteandlight

Larianne wrote: »

Oh! Didn't think that was the reason.. bit of a u-turn by O Leary so.



You can carry on one bag (the regular carry on size) and a second smaller carry on, for free. Been this way since before Christmas.

Now the cabins are packed with luggage. They were trying to get people to check in bags for free the last time I flew with them.

They are a victim of their own campaigning here they made it so prohibitively expensive to check baggage that every passenger is determined to milk every inch out of the baggage allowance!

AirBiscuit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNUJ_td7eJc

DEFTLEFTHAND

It's a starting company for many commercial pilots, they're worked to the limit of legal hours and payed poorly in comparison to the rest of the industry, a second Officer will struggle to break 30k per annum. Consider that if you want to do this for a living, you could easily sink 50k into training alone.

RA pilots also find it hard to get hired on with a reputable airline when they go to move, nobody wants them. If you stick it out and put up with the bull a Captain can make 70k plus a year in RA. Decent but still below the money they could make with a proper airline and with a much lighter work schedule.

Amirani

Katelyn Narrow Karaoke wrote: »

You sure? That's not what they told me. I know with Easyjet that one of the main reasons people reserve seats is to make sure they sit next to the other people in their party. Couldn't see why Ryanair would be any different.

100%. If 2 people nook together, their assigned seats will be beside each other. The whole idea behind the move was actually to make sure people didn't have to sit apart.

Amirani

Smidge wrote: »

Hang on,
ALL carry on baggage used to be free(ie 4 people flying, 4 pieces of carry on free of charge as it was one piece each)

So now its only 2 free carry on per group or 2 per person?

2 carry on per person. 1 normal sized cabin bag and 1 smaller bag.

Sunnyisland

As a frequent flyer,I have not a bad word to say about them, like others have said do what they say and there no problems.

DeanAustin

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's a starting company for many commercial pilots, they're worked to the limit of legal hours and payed poorly in comparison to the rest of the industry, a second Officer will struggle to break 30k per annum. Consider that if you want to do this for a living, you could easily sink 50k into training alone.

RA pilots also find it hard to get hired on with a reputable airline when they go to move, nobody wants them. If you stick it out and put up with the bull a Captain can make 70k plus a year in RA. Decent but still below the money they could make with a proper airline and with a much lighter work schedule.

Do you know this for a fact or are you just speculating or relying on the word of a friend of a friend? Not being funny because I know little or nothing about it.

It's shocking if true. I earn more than that and, to be honest, I do close to f**k all to earn it and have a lot less responsibility.

Sunnyisland

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's a starting company for many commercial pilots, they're worked to the limit of legal hours and payed poorly in comparison to the rest of the industry, a second Officer will struggle to break 30k per annum. Consider that if you want to do this for a living, you could easily sink 50k into training alone.

RA pilots also find it hard to get hired on with a reputable airline when they go to move, nobody wants them. If you stick it out and put up with the bull a Captain can make 70k plus a year in RA. Decent but still below the money they could make with a proper airline and with a much lighter work schedule.

Why is this, Are Ryanair planes substandard ? Surely all pilots have to do the same training no matter what airline they fly with ?

prettygurrly

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It's a starting company for many commercial pilots, they're worked to the limit of legal hours and payed poorly in comparison to the rest of the industry, a second Officer will struggle to break 30k per annum. Consider that if you want to do this for a living, you could easily sink 50k into training alone.

RA pilots also find it hard to get hired on with a reputable airline when they go to move, nobody wants them. If you stick it out and put up with the bull a Captain can make 70k plus a year in RA. Decent but still below the money they could make with a proper airline and with a much lighter work schedule.

Sounds like hearsay to me...yes it may be a starting out airline but I find it hard to believe that after completing x number of flying hours and having a perfect safety record would preclude anyone from getting a job anywhere else...in fact I know of one ex Ryanair pilot working for AerLingus...are you saying that AerLingus employ substandard pilots too?

YellowFeather

I know people have had issues with Ryanair, but the amount of complaining about them seems disproportionate. People complain about being charged for oversized baggage - check your fcuking baggage people! It's a cheap flight with restrictions. It's your responsibility to comply with those restrictions. Now, I'm a crap packer, and I've been lucky in that I've gotten away with having waaaaay too much. If I had been caught, I wouldn't have exactly been delighted to pay the extra charge. But it would have been MY fault!

Even these new changes - ahhh, what is Ryanair up to now - it must be something bad. I'm sure Ryanair realises that some folks won't fly with them 'cause of their reputation, so they're making changes to alleviate that somewhat. Are they doing it for profit? Of course! Businesses don't do things for you because they think you're a nice person.

I managed to get away five times last year, and four of those holidays were with Ryanair - I got some amazing prices during their sales. I never had a single problem (even though I had to wear most of my luggage onto their flights - but that's 'cause I'm hopeless :P).

I missed a returning flight at one stage and, whilst I did have to pay to get home, it wasn't extortionate and the staff were very helpful and didn't even laugh at me when I launched to the service desk with my bag bursting open and jacket half on and top inside out as it dawned on me that I had put the return flight in my phone on GMT (- 1 hour) and was late for even that! In fairness - I would have laughed at me.

They are what they are, and they get you places! If you don't like them - don't fly with them!

DEFTLEFTHAND

realies wrote: »

Why is this, Are Ryanair planes substandard ? Surely all pilots have to do the same training no matter what airline they fly with ?

No they're not in anyway substandard, you won't get to be a commercial pilot unless you have the flight time and qualifications etc, but they're treated poorly by the company, they take advantage of guys trying to break into the industry, pay them peanuts and work them to the bone.

The culture Ryanair and Easyjet impose on their staff is looked down upon in the big carriers. There's certain practices when pilots are on the limit of legal hours that they don't want in their pilots picking up.

Annasopra

listermint wrote: »

Yes you get what you pay for. Most flights in the air. More flying hours. More hours on the planes but yet still maintaining a high safety rating...

what about the allegations last year that they are lacksadaisical on safety?

rainbow kirby

I flew Ryanair around 30 times in the last couple of years (long distance relationship), I try and avoid where possible now that we've closed the distance! Their policies bring out the asshole in other passengers, which just makes the flight stressful and frustrating. Their ground staff at Gatwick and Luton are absolutely awful too, little Nazis on a power trip. I would always favour Aer Lingus or BA for flights back home - much more pleasant experience and not *that* much more expensive if booked at the right time.

billie1b

ted1 wrote: »

Any time we've flown with kids they have been great. I wouldn't base the whole airline on one bad staff member

Either that or he's talking through his hole! The bar boxes with the food come from a separate company, they are counted. The milk, spoons, stirrers, napkins, cups, toilet roll and forks are supplied by the ground team in Dublin, they are not counted and never have been, each aircraft is supplied with a bag at the start of the day with everything in it, if they run out they call for extra and are supplied with it

sunflower27

Oranage2 wrote: »

I've flown Ryanair about 10 times and never had a problem. Had a flight delayed once but I arrived at the airport late so a blessing in disguise.

They're cheap and you get what you pay for.

Exactly. People just love having something to moan about.

Get there early, stick to the rules and no problem.

I am flying to the UK in February for under 40e return (including taxes). Nothing to complain about.

And if I can now take a handbag without squashing it into my hand luggage, happy days.

If you don't like the rules, pay extra and fly with someone else. I don't think Mr O'Leary would be too concerned :D:D