bord bia inspection

joe man utd

Just got word today that we are having our first inspection for bord bia on wednesday.. Just wondering what are the main areas i should have right.. Our herd register is fully upto date and we have our housing and feed storage in good order.. Is there any other main points i should be looking after?

munkus

Signs for biosecurity, also stating that safety statement is available on request. Sharps container for needles. What do you do with used bottles and cans. Bait points and a map of them. Locked cabinets for medicines and sprays. First aid kit on farm, general tidiness etc.

Greengrass1

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SXuLU6IoWgo

Exact same as this will be unspected

armin van burren

joe man utd wrote: »

Just got word today that we are having our first inspection for bord bia on wednesday.. Just wondering what are the main areas i should have right.. Our herd register is fully upto date and we have our housing and feed storage in good order.. Is there any other main points i should be looking after?

Is it a beef or dairy inspection you have?
Beef ones not as big a ordeal as the dairy one,good luck with it

bob charles

armin van burren wrote: »

Is it a beef or dairy inspection you have?
Beef ones not as big a ordeal as the dairy one,good luck with it

you cant fail a dairy one

armin van burren

bob charles wrote: »

you cant fail a dairy one

I'd say that inspector could stop you sending milk if he felt like it
That would be a fail I reckon

bob charles

armin van burren wrote: »

I'd say that inspector could stop you sending milk if he felt like it

nope

armin van burren

bob charles wrote: »

nope

Well I have it from a reliable source that you can lose the bb bonus for beef by not doing the paperwork correctly

Genghis Cant

http://www.bordbia.ie/industryservices/quality/BeefSchemeStandards/Beef%20and%20Lamb%20QAS%20Producer%20Manual.pdf

All ya need to know. Some light bedtime reading:D

bob charles

armin van burren wrote: »

Well I have it from a reliable source that you can lose the bb bonus for beef by not doing the paperwork correctly

you asked about dairy, you can fail a beef scope audit and loose membership to bb

biddy2013

if you have dogs or cats have a note from vet when they where last wormed

armin van burren

bob charles wrote: »

you asked about dairy, you can fail a beef scope audit and loose membership to bb

So what is the penalties you recieve if you don't have your dairy enterprise up to bb spec ?

Zoo4m8

joe man utd wrote: »

Just got word today that we are having our first inspection for bord bia on wednesday.. Just wondering what are the main areas i should have right.. Our herd register is fully upto date and we have our housing and feed storage in good order.. Is there any other main points i should be looking after?

All good advice here, and don't have out of date medicines hanging about. I have had a number of these inspections and have found the inspectors agreeable and helpful and IMO not out to trip you, in short it sounds as if you are on top of things so no need to get over anxious.

jt65

armin van burren wrote: »

So what is the penalties you recieve if you don't have your dairy enterprise up to bb spec ?

milk will not be collected , just the same as not supplying a herd cert

back on topic

OP the video covers it (animal remedy records is the big thing )

foot bath and signs

show recepit for dog or cat wormer, does not have to be a vet

joe man utd

All good tips received thanks, its a dairy one we are having.. I have a few signs that i must throw up today.. As regards bait points i dont really have any as we have around 8 cats about and dont ever see a mouse or a rat...and regarding the worming of cats and dogs.. I know they were wormed recently but i dont have the recepits for it....

Reggie.

Genghis Cant wrote: »

http://www.bordbia.ie/industryservices/quality/BeefSchemeStandards/Beef%20and%20Lamb%20QAS%20Producer%20Manual.pdf

All ya need to know. Some light bedtime reading:D

Light reading :eek:

Injuryprone

jt65 wrote: »

milk will not be collected , just the same as not supplying a herd cert

Care to provide backup for this statement. I think you 100% wrong. It's voluntary around here anyway. There's a 0.1cpl bonus for being BB approved, so Bob, I guess you could say that there's a 0.1cpl penalty for failing.

jt65

joe man utd wrote: »

All good tips received thanks, its a dairy one we are having.. I have a few signs that i must throw up today.. As regards bait points i dont really have any as we have around 8 cats about and dont ever see a mouse or a rat...and regarding the worming of cats and dogs.. I know they were wormed recently but i dont have the recepits for it....

I presume you were not certified previously for beef and lamb ?

i had an inspection last autumn and the auditor pointed out a few issues in the dairy for the dairy one when it came in , haven't done them yet

jt65

Injuryprone wrote: »

Care to provide backup for this statement. I think you 100% wrong. It's voluntary around here anyway. There's a 0.1cpl bonus for being BB approved, so Bob, I guess you could say that there's a 0.1cpl penalty for failing.

ok

we will discuss it again in 2016

joe man utd

jt65 wrote: »

I presume you were not certified previously for beef and lamb ?

i had an inspection last autumn and the auditor pointed out a few issues in the dairy for the dairy one when it came in , haven't done them yet

No we never had one of these inspections beford.... Alot of work done already today.. Got a door in dairy fixed.. Hung 2 signs at entrance.. Bought bait boxes and put tgem in place and got the dogs and cats a worm dose..

simx

joe man utd wrote: »

No we never had one of these inspections beford.... Alot of work done already today.. Got a door in dairy fixed.. Hung 2 signs at entrance.. Bought bait boxes and put tgem in place and got the dogs and cats a worm dose..

How much are the bait boxes joe?

farmerjj

Injuryprone wrote: »

Care to provide backup for this statement. I think you 100% wrong. It's voluntary around here anyway. There's a 0.1cpl bonus for being BB approved, so Bob, I guess you could say that there's a 0.1cpl penalty for failing.

+1

joe man utd

simx wrote: »

How much are the bait boxes joe?

14.95 in dairygold near me... Im even after gettin the cats and dogs wormed

simx

joe man utd wrote: »

14.95 in dairygold near me... Im even after gettin the cats and dogs wormed

How many did you get joe

Farmer Pudsey

Bord Bia QA important thing is herd register is up to date or if online that you can print off an up to date profile. After that your must have a record of all medicines/dosing. You are supposed to put in administration rates how much/50kgs. These are the most important and the most likliy reason to fail.

After that
Safty statement
Vermin Contro/Bait points
Sinage
Bio security( footwear disinfectant)
Record of nuts/ration

all the above are slap on the wrist type offences along with them being on about plastic dispoal ( middle of winter and it was a reference) and the yard being untidy.

biddy2013

simx wrote: »

How many did you get joe

I got the bait boxes for 12.95 make sure there's a key with them. I got 7. I drew a lovely map of where they are

bikes

Did mine last week, got locked medicine cabinet used a jam jar for used sharps and wrote sharps on label. first aid box, boot wash , used 2 wrap pipes and put bait into them ,did out a quick yard map with bait points,boot wash,meal area on it and area to store sprays etc.The main thing is paperwork,dosing,injecting records and meal dockets.Did a quick tidy up and passed.He said for the next time to have a safety sign and safety statement.

biddy2013

bikes wrote: »

Did mine last week, got locked medicine cabinet used a jam jar for used sharps and wrote sharps on label. first aid box, boot wash , used 2 wrap pipes and put bait into them ,did out a quick yard map with bait points,boot wash,meal area on it and area to store sprays etc.The main thing is paperwork,dosing,injecting records and meal dockets.Did a quick tidy up and passed.He said for the next time to have a safety sign and safety statement.

other thing is do you have withdrawal dates for medicines, they where very specific on this

joe man utd

simx wrote: »

How many did you get joe

Got 5 of them and placed them around farm.. Drew a nice map of all the bait points. Just made a footbath out of used drums and have it on entrance to farmyard from dwelling area.. I think we are up to scratch anyway he can go s**t after that

simx

joe man utd wrote: »

Got 5 of them and placed them around farm.. Drew a nice map of all the bait points. Just made a footbath out of used drums and have it on entrance to farmyard from dwelling area.. I think we are up to scratch anyway he can go s**t after that

Thanks joe, what exactly comes into this saftey statement

bikes

simx wrote: »

Thanks joe, what exactly comes into this saftey statement

Think this is it here http://www.teagasc.ie/pigs/advisory/SafetyStatementTemplateJune2008.pdf

Farmer Pudsey

bikes wrote: »

Did mine last week, got locked medicine cabinet used a jam jar for used sharps and wrote sharps on label. first aid box, boot wash , used 2 wrap pipes and put bait into them ,did out a quick yard map with bait points,boot wash,meal area on it and area to store sprays etc.The main thing is paperwork,dosing,injecting records and meal dockets.Did a quick tidy up and passed.He said for the next time to have a safety sign and safety statement.

And if you do that he will still find an issue and you will have something else to do the time after. Better to let there be little thing for him to find.

simx

bikes wrote: »

Think this is it here http://www.teagasc.ie/pigs/advisory/SafetyStatementTemplateJune2008.pdf

Thanks, how does this have to be presented? In a folder or what?

MfMan

HSA have an online step-by-step guide to prepare and produce a safety statement. Google it.....

tatoo

re bb areas for improvement :

What is the correct procedure to follow in the case of a broken hypodermic needle remaining in an animal ?

waalaa

tatoo wrote: »

re bb areas for improvement :

What is the correct procedure to follow in the case of a broken hypodermic needle remaining in an animal ?

If veterinary assistance can't get it out, note the animal and approximate location of the needle. Attach a note to the blue card if it's cattle, let the factory know all the details when sending animal.

The last BB inspector I had was a bit of a twat, the signs I had up weren't FBD ones which he told me I needed, I didn't slap the safety statement into his hand before I said hello to him and he threw a god awful hissy fit when I hadn't the withdrawal date for medicines in the book only the number of days. Despite me being worse than Hitler I still passed.

Pretty much everything you need to know is already in the thread, there's nothing to them, just a waste of a few hours.

biddy2013

waalaa wrote: »

If veterinary assistance can't get it out, note the animal and approximate location of the needle. Attach a note to the blue card if it's cattle, let the factory know all the details when sending animal.

The last BB inspector I had was a bit of a twat, the signs I had up weren't FBD ones which he told me I needed, I didn't slap the safety statement into his hand before I said hello to him and he threw a god awful hissy fit when I hadn't the withdrawal date for medicines in the book only the number of days. Despite me being worse than Hitler I still passed.

Pretty much everything you need to know is already in the thread, there's nothing to them, just a waste of a few hours.

they will want to see a docket for an animal that went for slaughter and then any treatments it had and the withdrawal date, if you have a farm program the withdrawal date will be calculated for you

joe man utd

We passed it anyway with just a few minor recomendations. I agree with having the herd plan up to date and having the herd register in good order but most of this is a waste of 4 hours and more red tape that we dont need.

joe man utd

We passed it anyway with just a few minor recomendations. I agree with having the herd plan up to date and having the herd register in good order but most of this is a waste of 4 hours and more red tape that we dont need.

bikes

joe man utd wrote: »

We passed it anyway with just a few minor recomendations. I agree with having the herd plan up to date and having the herd register in good order but most of this is a waste of 4 hours and more red tape that we dont need.

good stuff

munkus

joe man utd wrote: »

We passed it anyway with just a few minor recomendations. I agree with having the herd plan up to date and having the herd register in good order but most of this is a waste of 4 hours and more red tape that we dont need.

Glad you passed. When it's extra money for **** all extra work you can't complain about it too much.

biddy2013

how are you to dispose of the contents of your sharps container?

Conmaicne Mara

biddy2013 wrote: »

how are you to dispose of the contents of your sharps container?

Vet I would think.

waalaa

biddy2013 wrote: »

how are you to dispose of the contents of your sharps container?

Yup, the vet. They should also take any expired or partial used medicines.

Rover198

joe man utd wrote: »

We passed it anyway with just a few minor recomendations. I agree with having the herd plan up to date and having the herd register in good order but most of this is a waste of 4 hours and more red tape that we dont need.

An auditor taking 4 hours to complete the audit will be contacted by the auditing body as a reason for the long audit is required

biddy2013

Rover198 wrote: »

An auditor taking 4 hours to complete the audit will be contacted by the auditing body as a reason for the long audit is required

the guy that comes here, does our 2 herds in the one go. i assume he is being paid for 2 visits

Rover198

biddy2013 wrote: »

the guy that comes here, does our 2 herds in the one go. i assume he is being paid for 2 visits

Yes audits where there are links such as father/son/brothers etc are linked together the audit is getting paid for each herd number he/she reviews, while the audits are done on the same day two individual reports will be completed

farmerjj

I have been thinking I,m at the wrong side of these inspections, how would you go about applying for a inspectors job???

Reggie.

farmerjj wrote: »

I have been thinking I,m at the wrong side of these inspections, how would you go about applying for a inspectors job???

Ah it wouldn't suit ya

farmerjj

Reggie. wrote: »

Ah it wouldn't suit ya

Handy money I think.

biddy2013

farmerjj wrote: »

Handy money I think.

wonder how much they get for each inspection and what the milage money is like.