Who are the duffest managers in football

Wooden Jesus

Avram Grant. Howard Wilkinson was fairly terrible aswell

osarusan

John Gregory is one whose career has been on quite a downward trajectory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gregory_%28footballer%29

but best of all must be John Sitten:

Soldie

You rang?

gustavo

Sean "Blackie" Connor

quarryman

Loving the outrage from Liverpool fans at Dalglish being mentioned.

The guy looked a complete dinosaur in his second spell at Liverpool. Tarnished a lot of the success he had previously.

My pick would be Mark Hughes. How he keeps getting jobs is beyond me. He must be very good at interviews...

inforfun

Frank Rijkaard.

Couldnt win Euro2000 in his own country with a team that finished 4th 2 years earlier in the WC
Got Sparta Rotterdam relegated in for the first time in their history, soemthing they still havent recovered from.

Yes, he had succes with Barca but so would anyone from the mustard forum with that squad.

Take that away and you really have to wonder why he is quite often mentioned for rather high profile jobs.

He is a nice guy though.

premierstone

We have learnt one thing from this thread at least.......... a hell of alot of posters here havent the foggiest what the fcuk they are talking about, either that or ''duffest'' has led to all sorts of confusion.

Daglish, Graham, Venables, Grant, Rijkaard :D

BMMachine

quarryman wrote: »

Loving the outrage from Liverpool fans at Dalglish being mentioned.

The guy looked a complete dinosaur in his second spell at Liverpool. Tarnished a lot of the success he had previously.

oh yeah its completely tarnished man. like all that success he had was tarnished. definitely. good word for it that, "tarnished". man, you are so on the ball

premierstone

BMMachine wrote: »

oh yeah its completely tarnished man. like all that success he had was tarnished. definitely. good word for it that, "tarnished". man, you are so on the ball

While I agree with your sentiment, that has to be the worst constructed post ever. My eyes bleed trying to read it.

BMMachine

premierstone wrote: »

While I agree with your sentiment, that has to be the worst constructed post ever. My eyes bleed trying to read it.

that was the point its almost like I wrote that with my arse isn't it

premierstone

BMMachine wrote: »

that was the point its almost like I wrote that with my arse isn't it

You have a way with words for sure!

quarryman

BMMachine wrote: »

like all that success he had was tarnished. definitely.

That part of your post indicates you don't actually understand the meaning of the word.

Hotblack Desiato

Glenn Hoddle.

RoryMac

Paul le Guen, built up a great reputation at Lyon and was tipped to manage a top side. Rangers seemed to pull off a massive coup to land him but from there it went downhill very quickly.

Didn't last too long at PSG either

Sheepy99

i agree, never heard those terms before.
Think he was referring to kenny's second time in charge, where i would be inclined to agree as regards 'jumping the shark'

bucketybuck

What a strange thread. You have some genuine duffers mentioned, and then you have people who have won multiple league titles and cups?

I thought this thread would be about people like Paul Ince, people who have never achieved anything in management yet still seem to get hired again and again. But instead people are nominating George Graham and Kenny Daglish?

Duffers like Ince could only dream of winning multiple league titles like Graham and Daglish did.

BMMachine

quarryman wrote: »

That part of your post indicates you don't actually understand the meaning of the word.

oh clearly man. who the hell does understand such a complex word as tarnished? some sort of rocket doctor I would imagine. I mean, your opinion on Dalglish is coming from a very clear and balanced standpoint, I mean look at this quote:
"Loving the outrage from Liverpool fans at Dalglish being mentioned." That clearly indicates that you can give a concise opinion on the career and image of the man without any bias called into question. Theres clearly a ton of weight behind it and there is absolutely no way that you are talking out of your ass. No way Jose.

dd972

Sheepy99 wrote: »

i agree, never heard those terms before.
Think he was referring to kenny's second time in charge, where i would be inclined to agree as regards 'jumping the shark'

Duff = Useless

Dowie = Ugly Nordie who couldn't manage a PS2 football team.

dsmythy

Have to be careful calling certain managers duds. Football has left some behind but that doesn't mean in their day they weren't decent. They just never adapted.

grenache

Michael Appleton. Everything he touched turned to sh/te. Sacked from jobs at Portsmouth and Blackburn, left Blackburn after only 60 days.

dd972

Peter Taylor, ruined Martin O'Neill decent mid 90's Leicester side.

smackbunnybaby

I am pie wrote: »

Surely this list should not include anyone who has won the top division of the league in which they managed?

eh i dunno wrote: »

Alex McLeish is worth a mention

:-)

TwoShedsJackson

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

:-)

Probably should clarify it to 'any manager who managed in the top division of a league that isn't basically a pub league'.

premierstone

dd972 wrote: »

Peter Taylor, ruined Martin O'Neill decent mid 90's Leicester side.

All Martin O'Neill teams go to ****e after he leaves, mainly due to his over spending and unsustainable contracts giving out. Certainly that was the case with Leicester, Celtic, Sunderland and Villa - no idea re. Wycombe.

gustavo

The only valid league is the Premier League, everyone knows that.

DeanAustin

F**king Graham, Dalglish, Wilkinson and Venables mentioned. Christ on a bike, anyone who mentions these fellas should be banned from posting in this forum.

dd972

DeanAustin wrote: »

F**king Graham, Dalglish, Wilkinson and Venables mentioned. Christ on a bike, anyone who mentions these fellas should be banned from posting in this forum.

Wilkinson at Sunderland? Dalglish at Celtic and Newcastle? Venables at Leeds, Portsmouth and his second spell at Crystal Palace? Point I made was about how these manager's lose it after being successful elsewhere.

Beefy78

Al Capwned wrote: »

Phil Brown.

To be fair, he's doing a fantastic job in very difficult circumstances at Southend.

Some very strange names mentioned in this thread.

bucketybuck

dd972 wrote: »

Point I made was about how these manager's lose it after being successful elsewhere.

Which is not the point of the thread at all, is it.

eagle eye

quarryman wrote: »

Loving the outrage from Liverpool fans at Dalglish being mentioned.

The guy looked a complete dinosaur in his second spell at Liverpool. Tarnished a lot of the success he had previously.

My pick would be Mark Hughes. How he keeps getting jobs is beyond me. He must be very good at interviews...

FFS, Dalglish won a trophy in his second spell at Liverpool and also managed to sign a player who goes by the first name of Louis for £23 million.

I'm sure you will remember the bad things he did but not the good is why I mention Louis.

I'm not a Liverpool fan btw.

As for Mark Hughes, he has a record that very few have even if it does not tell the full tale but every club he has started and finished a season with have been top ten in the league.

Thats Blackburn, Manchester City and Fulham.

Over the last nine seasons he has spent 7 of them at a club from the start to the finish of the season and had 6 top ten finishes.

dd972

bucketybuck wrote: »

Which is not the point of the thread at all, is it.

Calm down darling.

duckman!!

Godge

eagle eye wrote: »

FFS, Dalglish won a trophy in his second spell at Liverpool and also managed to sign a player who goes by the first name of Louis for £23 million.

I'm sure you will remember the bad things he did but not the good is why I mention Louis.

I'm not a Liverpool fan btw.

As for Mark Hughes, he has a record that very few have even if it does not tell the full tale but every club he has started and finished a season with have been top ten in the league.

Thats Blackburn, Manchester City and Fulham.

Over the last nine seasons he has spent 7 of them at a club from the start to the finish of the season and had 6 top ten finishes.

Louis who?

GTR63

Godge wrote: »

Louis who?

Lane!

upandcumming

Mark Hughes is by far and away the worst. A complete shite.

Turtyturd

Godge wrote: »

Louis who?

Saurez.

DeanAustin

dd972 wrote: »

Wilkinson at Sunderland? Dalglish at Celtic and Newcastle? Venables at Leeds, Portsmouth and his second spell at Crystal Palace? Point I made was about how these manager's lose it after being successful elsewhere.

Dalglish's record with Liverpool and Blackburn is excellent.

Wilkinson took Leeds from Division 2 and won the First Division with them. It was a phenomenal achievement.

Venables...Palace, QPR, England, Boro, Barcelona.

These lads aren't anywhere near "the duffest managers in football" and it's dumb to suggest that they are.

If we are going down this route, I'm suggesting Mourninho for last season at Madrid, Fergie for his time managing Scotland and Benitez for his last year at Liverpool.

Chagan

Tony Pulis

Beefy78

Chagan wrote: »

Tony Pulis

What? Why?

Pulis' record is phenomenal.

Is this an ironic thread and I just didn't realise?

DeanAustin

Chagan wrote: »

Tony Pulis

Ah ffs. I give up.

blaze1

Glen Hoddle, for all the mystic meg shiiite with England

764dak

Josep Sala Guardiola is overrated.

GLaDOS

Alex Ferguson
Terry Venables
Rafa Benitez
Paul Ince


I'm still trying to work out what Duffest means.