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SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

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    #3362
    Nollog
    Registered Users Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭Nollog


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Has anyone an idea what the download limit is for the standard vodafone efibre package versus the siro package?

    Thanks

    300GB and 1000GB respectively.

    http://www.vodafone.ie/terms/fixed/#lightspeedbroadbandfrom11jan2016


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    #3363
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    When I was on VF efibre I regularly hit 500+GB without incurring any extra costs.


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    #3364
    Nollog
    Registered Users Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭Nollog


    jca wrote: »
    When I was on VF efibre I regularly hit 500+GB without incurring any extra costs.

    It was unlimited for the longest time, then vodafone decided to limit it to 300gb/month for new contract.

    They mustve given in to complaints, it's 1000 gb since 25th of March 2015 apparently.
    http://www.vodafone.ie/terms/fixed/#home


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    #3365
    Avada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    /\/ollog wrote: »
    It was unlimited for the longest time, then vodafone decided to limit it to 300gb/month for new contract.

    They mustve given in to complaints, it's 1000 gb since 25th of March 2015 apparently.
    http://www.vodafone.ie/terms/fixed/#home

    They had to change it as their use of the word unlimited was falling foul of advertising standards. To market the product as unlimited, your fair usage policy cannot affect more than 1% of your customers.


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    #3366
    godskitchen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭godskitchen


    Avada wrote: »
    They had to change it as their use of the word unlimited was falling foul of advertising standards. To market the product as unlimited, your fair usage policy cannot affect more than 1% of your customers.

    Wasn't it someone on here that forced that clarification?


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    #3367
    Avada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    godskitchen wrote: »
    Wasn't it someone on here that forced that clarification?

    Yep, myself. I made a complaint to advertising standards authority


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    #3368
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,078 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Avada wrote: »
    Yep, myself. I made a complaint to advertising standards authority

    It's a pity they weren't forced to advertise it properly and tell people the actual limit if there is one. This unlimited with a limit thing is just nonsense.


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    #3369
    Avada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    It's a pity they weren't forced to advertise it properly and tell people the actual limit if there is one. This unlimited with a limit thing is just nonsense.

    Yeah, it is nonsense. You shouldn't be allowed to use the word unlimited unless it actually is


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    #3370
    damienirel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭damienirel


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    It's a pity they weren't forced to advertise it properly and tell people the actual limit if there is one. This unlimited with a limit thing is just nonsense.

    The unlimited with a limit is nonsense but they've been peddlin' that ****e for a long time, remember getting throttled for going over the unlimited limit by BT back when they were a thing in 2007 - nearly 10 years ago. Hard to believe they are still getting away with it albeit on 1%. I made a complaint to the advertising standards authority at the time - as far as I can remember they told me it was ok for isps to do that, and that it wasn't a valid complaint must try and dig up the email.


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    #3371
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,385 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Any sign of Vodafone marketing/selling the FTTP service in Sligo?

    The whole town seems to be cabled, but no sign of any selling?


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    #3372
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    damienirel wrote: »
    The unlimited with a limit is nonsense but they've been peddlin' that ****e for a long time,

    It is ridiculous. How can you sell something as "unlimited" - then introduce a limit??

    Only in the is bloody country. Same with this "up to" rubbish for speeds. If someone pays, say, €50 a month for 50 megs, and you can only deliver 10 megs to someone else then the price should be reduced to €10 a month.

    Imagine going into Dunnes and seeing them sell a jumper with "up to" two sleeves? Or a car dealer selling a car with "up to" four wheels?

    Time to stop this nonsense once and for all and hit them where it hurts - financially.


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    #3373
    Roen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Hi lads,

    Just wondering if anyone is using Vodafone's flavour of Siro for business? If so any restrictions/caveats?
    R.


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    #3374
    Nollog
    Registered Users Posts: 5,456 ✭✭✭Nollog


    7upfree wrote: »
    It is ridiculous. How can you sell something as "unlimited" - then introduce a limit??

    Only in the is bloody country. Same with this "up to" rubbish for speeds. If someone pays, say, €50 a month for 50 megs, and you can only deliver 10 megs to someone else then the price should be reduced to €10 a month.

    Imagine going into Dunnes and seeing them sell a jumper with "up to" two sleeves? Or a car dealer selling a car with "up to" four wheels?

    Time to stop this nonsense once and for all and hit them where it hurts - financially.

    Unfortunately up to is how the copper works. It'd be more like a lucky bag having up to 50cent worth of sweets.


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    #3375
    urgash
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭urgash


    Typical, duct blocked, no Siro and no info when it's gonna happen. Happy christmass and happy new year lads.


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    #3376
    GreenFolder2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    The up-to X speed isn't really an option as it's based on the laws of physics on copper telephone wiring and DSL technologies. You can only really advertise the headline rate - there's nothing unique about Ireland in that.

    However, using the term unlimited for services that aren't limited is just completely misleading. It would he very interesting if it ever got taken to court. So far, nobody has ever done that - it's only been complaints to regulators. I would have my doubts that the practice would stand up.


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    #3377
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    there is no service provider that's truly unlimited tho?


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    #3378
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,585 ✭✭✭jca


    Gonzo wrote: »
    there is no service provider that's truly unlimited tho?

    Sky are and as far as I know virgin media are too.


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    #3379
    flutered
    Registered Users Posts: 6,685 ✭✭✭flutered


    jca wrote: »
    Sky are and as far as I know virgin media are too.
    3 are not so bad for unlimited, we have the grandkids over and kodi has been a head saver, the fone has a data warning on at all times and i cannot remove it


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    #3380
    flutered
    Registered Users Posts: 6,685 ✭✭✭flutered


    ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: »
    We had the National Broadband Scheme (NBS) which subsidised Three's mobile network rollout and was a terrible solution. This ended a coupla years back and left people with terrible connections, with even worse connections, as Three no longer had to meet minimum (and I mean MINIMUM) standards. :(

    The NBP actually looks like it could be a proper job, but all the delays and thoughts of court cases make me nervous that it might get crippled. :confused:
    phat rabbit had the chance to make a proper name for himself, the usual labour i only care to get iw up and running finished that, if they put the same effort into the broadband set up we would have nothing to bitch about here


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    #3381
    ItHurtsWhenIP
    Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Gonzo wrote: »
    there is no service provider that's truly unlimited tho?

    Munster Broadband are unlimited.


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    #3382
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: »
    Munster Broadband are unlimited.

    never heard of them till now.


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    #3383
    Some_Person
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Some_Person


    Gonzo wrote: »
    there is no service provider that's truly unlimited tho?
    Magnet Business is, not sure about Residential.


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    #3384
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    UPC and Virgin have always pushed heavy users onto the premium package, but once you're there usage is truly unlimited (Trust me, I've pushed it just to see).


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    #3385
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    ED E wrote:
    UPC and Virgin have always pushed heavy users onto the premium package, but once you're there usage is truly unlimited (Trust me, I've pushed it just to see).

    That was the case but not since this: "From 25th February 2013, no limit on data transfer allowance will apply for customers of new Fibre Power Broadband products, except for customers of limited products with specified data transfer allowances"


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    #3386
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    what's the story with Eir's FTTH service, is it still limited to 1gig a month? I haven't heard of Eir charging customers who go over in years? It would only take 2 hours to break that download allowance with such speeds.


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    #3387
    rob808
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭rob808


    Gonzo wrote: »
    what's the story with Eir's FTTH service, is it still limited to 1gig a month? I haven't heard of Eir charging customers who go over in years? It would only take 2 hours to break that download allowance with such speeds.
    yea it still 1TB if it was 1 GB you be screwed :).


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    #3388
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    rob808 wrote: »
    yea it still 1TB if it was 1 GB you be screwed :).

    I really meant 1TB:)

    Haven't heard anyone getting warnings for going over. with such a connection it would be incredibly easy to go over.

    I'm beginning to think 300 might be more realistic than going with the 1000 considering the data limit and not alot of services would make use of 1000.


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    #3389
    rob808
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭rob808


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I really meant 1TB:)

    Haven't heard anyone getting warnings for going over. with such a connection it would be incredibly easy to go over.

    I'm beginning to think 300 might be more realistic than going with the 1000 considering the data limit and not alot of services would make use of 1000.
    I would go for 300mb there no real use for 1Gb at moment with the download limit being 1TB.


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    #3390
    urgash
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭urgash


    Anyone has idea how long it can take to get someone to fix the blocked duct?
    All i know from Actavo tech is that they need to dig my garden, and that was 20 December.


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    #3391
    KeRbDoG
    Registered Users Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    urgash wrote: »
    Anyone has idea how long it can take to get someone to fix the blocked duct?
    All i know from Actavo tech is that they need to dig my garden, and that was 20 December.

    Might be quicker to do it yourself :)


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