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SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

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    #2282
    jd
    Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭jd


    ED E wrote: »

    Thank f'ck its Sierra that got the contract.

    What retail operators are on board? Vodafone?


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    #2283
    tdonegan1990
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭tdonegan1990


    Anyone else that signed up for the free 6 month trial get a call yet?
    Signed up on Wednesday, told I would get a call Friday but no luck.


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    #2284
    PeadarB
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    Small update on rollout page http://siro.ie/roll-out/

    "We will light up Letterkenny, Tralee and Cavan by this December!.

    Time to switch back to Vodafone so.


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    #2285
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    PeadarB wrote: »
    Small update on rollout page http://siro.ie/roll-out/

    "We will light up Letterkenny, Tralee and Cavan by this December!.

    Time to switch back to Vodafone so.

    What addresses are covered?


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    #2286
    5.11 Tactical
    Registered Users Posts: 291 ✭✭5.11 Tactical


    tdonegan1990 wrote: »
    Anyone else that signed up for the free 6 month trial get a call yet?
    Signed up on Wednesday, told I would get a call Friday but no luck.

    How did you manage to sign up I asked them but got nothing back ?


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    #2287
    tdonegan1990
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭tdonegan1990


    5.11 Tactical wrote: »
    How did you manage to sign up I asked them but got nothing back ?

    Got a leaflet threw the door about it. I went into Vodafone in the longwalk and they took all my details etc.. Got a call two days later saying that "we're sorry but it turns out your address (lennonstown manor) and Manydown aren't eligible for the trial"!

    I was sure my estate would be ready.. Was littered with siro and Sierra vans for most of the month.. We have new cream electric box's beside the older green one's. Also seen the fibre optic cable being laid.
    Wonder what the hold up is?


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    #2288
    PeadarB
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    joe_99 wrote: »
    What addresses are covered?

    @joe99 I have no info at all about it except that one of the KN lads was doing an audit of the ESB mini-pillars around the town about three weeks ago.

    He said that the main fibre route, will run from Lurgybrack, via Ballyraine, Gortlee, over Windy Hall and back down and out the Cullion Road to Lurgybrack, covering all the 38Kv sub-stations on the route. The main fibre distribution set-up would be behind Gortlee (the ESB depot?). It will follow the 220v routes from the 38Kv sub-stations and ESB Networks will install the fibre as far as the mini pillars and Siro/SiteServe/Kn would run it from the mini-pillars to the premises. He did say it would be symmetrical, ie, whatever you get down you would also get up 200Gb/200Gb - 1000Gb/1000Gb. The old 110Kv run to the now defunct Unifi site should facilitate the core fibre run to Gortlee, which is just up the road from there. Scroll in on the roll out map on the Siro site and you will see where the fibre is likely to run at ground level.

    Eir have given me no comfort about aerial distrubution from the DP on their poles so I have decided to switch back to Vodafone and wait for Siro, however long that might take.


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    #2289
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    I presume this SIRO network is only for towns and big villages? and not rural areas of the country..


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    #2290
    rob808
    Registered Users Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭rob808


    irishfeen wrote: »
    I presume this SIRO network is only for towns and big villages? and not rural areas of the country..
    I think for the moment yes but they are interested in NBP but guess real question would be how interest are they in rural Ireland trail was a bit of a joke just 14 houses to FTTH.

    They want to make the most money so there targeting big towns in phase 1 and phase 2 small towns and villages and maybe they do a third and target rural areas but that a big if.


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    #2291
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    rob808 wrote: »
    I think for the moment yes but they are interested in NBP but guess real question would be how interest are they in rural Ireland trail was a bit of a joke just 14 houses to FTTH.

    They want to make the most money so there targeting big towns in phase 1 and phase 2 small towns and villages and maybe they do a third and target rural areas but that a big if.
    Ah OK I thought so, this NBP seems even at this stage absolutely doomed to failure...


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    #2292
    digiman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,217 ✭✭✭digiman


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Ah OK I thought so, this NBP seems even at this stage absolutely doomed to failure...

    I wouldn't say that, while the funding has been cut from the government the more fibre that is rolled out in large urban towns the cheaper it will be for the houses on the outskirts of towns and then further into rural parts to be connected up also.

    Also, people seem to forget that Eircom and Siro have shareholder obligations to make money. If they start their fibre rollouts in rural Ireland where they would be just sinking their money then they would fail and so would the chances of rural broadband. You will need to give both of them time to serve the large urban towns.


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    #2293
    Manc Red
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Manc Red


    PeadarB wrote: »
    Scroll in on the roll out map on the Siro site and you will see where the fibre is likely to run at ground level.
    Didn't know this before now. Thanks.

    The dark green lines is the confirmed fibre routes that they will be laying?

    Just to be clear this is ground level only?

    Our lane is on it thankfully. It was a bit hard to find without the main roads showing but I take it this focuses on taking fibre out from the main roads?


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    #2294
    irishfeen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    The SIRO map is the hardest thing to follow ever, almost impossible in fact... from what I can make out there is no green line passing us either - no blue or green :)


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    #2295
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    Manc Red wrote: »
    The dark green lines is the confirmed fibre routes that they will be laying?

    I really doubt they are confirmed fibre routes, they make absolutely no sense in most areas.


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    #2296
    PeadarB
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    MajesticDonkey wrote: »
    I really doubt they are confirmed fibre routes, they make absolutely no sense in most areas.

    I've checked my own location and in my area they reflect the power cable runs. We've a mini-pillar serving the eight houses in our estate. The power is run from there through a 1" - 1 1/2" uPVC pipe with plenty of room for the fibre cable.

    The Siro map shows the overground runs as well. My big fear is for those areas served by ESB Networks aerially, from the pole to the house, will end up the same as those who are being kept out of the loop for FTTH/B by eir, as they do not have access to underground ducting.


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    #2297
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    PeadarB wrote: »
    I've checked my own location and in my area they reflect the power cable runs. We've a mini-pillar serving the eight houses in our estate. The power is run from there through a 1" - 1 1/2" uPVC pipe with plenty of room for the fibre cable.

    Maybe it is so. It'd really help if they showed roads on the map, I don't have a clue where my own area is exactly the way it is at the moment.


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    #2298
    dbit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭dbit


    PeadarB wrote: »
    I've checked my own location and in my area they reflect the power cable runs. We've a mini-pillar serving the eight houses in our estate. The power is run from there through a 1" - 1 1/2" uPVC pipe with plenty of room for the fibre cable.

    The Siro map shows the overground runs as well. My big fear is for those areas served by ESB Networks aerially, from the pole to the house, will end up the same as those who are being kept out of the loop for FTTH/B by eir, as they do not have access to underground ducting.

    I personally dont think that just beacuse a house is fed by ariel mounted pole delivery versus underground ducting would prohibit a nominted area from completing an install . There are ariel grade fiber standards that allow for flex and bend in that scenario.


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    #2299
    clohamon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭clohamon


    MajesticDonkey wrote: »
    Maybe it is so. It'd really help if they showed roads on the map, I don't have a clue where my own area is exactly the way it is at the moment.

    It is a roadmap, without the M,N, and R roads.


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    KOR101
    Registered Users Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    Could someone post a link for the map?


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    #2301
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    KOR101 wrote: »
    Could someone post a link for the map?

    http://siro.ie/roll-out/


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    #2302
    PeadarB
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭PeadarB


    clohamon wrote: »
    It is a roadmap, without the M,N, and R roads.
    There are small directional arrows for roads but they are hard to spot when you scroll in on your location at http://siro.ie/roll-out/


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    #2303
    neacy69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭neacy69


    Sorry if i've missed a few posts....If you are on a green indicated area on the map can you call vodafone and sign up?


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    #2304
    Redriddick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    The whole road I am on is green,does this mean anything??
    I think not and I think this map is not exactly where it will be available.
    I am on a side road,off a side road and it is green but I am hesitant to believe I will get it!!!


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    #2305
    KOR101
    Registered Users Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭KOR101


    The Green lines show on the UK map as well, so they can't be indicating where they will supply FTTH. As I missing something? :confused:


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    #2306
    Redriddick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    Lads,straight from the horses mouth as they say:
    Thank you for your email. The green lines on the map do not indicate the coverage, they are purely decorative. As you may know, phase one of roll-out will target 50 regional towns, including Roscommon. Phase One is concentrated on the urban boundaries of the town, which are determined by technical survey prior to the build. As we begin to roll-out in a town we inform the local media and local representatives of our plans and the probably scope of the coverage.
    Best wishes

    So the map is purely ****e!!


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    #2307
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    decorative?

    that is really unbelievable

    there must be some reason for the green squiggles :)


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    #2308
    MajesticDonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭MajesticDonkey


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    there must be some reason for the green squiggles :)

    Yes, the majority are just minor roads from what I can see, but there are also short ones in the middle of nowhere that don't join to any other line.


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    #2309
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Siro were working on the St Alphonsus Road, Dundalk today, the Avenue Road end. I saw at least one Sierra vehicle as well. I was driving by and I asked one of them was my estate on the list (it is nearby) but unfortunately he did not speak English. I saw some reels of cable, like satellite cable, which I assume is the fibre?


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    #2310
    Gothmog
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭Gothmog


    The green lines on the SIRO map represent where the existing ESB lines run if I understand correctly. Or at least ones that can be used for possible Fibre roll-out.


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    #2311
    clohamon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Gothmog wrote: »
    The green lines on the SIRO map represent where the existing ESB lines run if I understand correctly. Or at least ones that can be used for possible Fibre roll-out.

    No.
    The Map is essentially a roadmap, but it shows only Local roads, boreens and some driveways. The Motorways, National roads and Regional roads have been removed.

    You can see how it works if you line up a google map side-by side with the SIRO map. IMO the green lines (outside the towns) have no significance.


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