SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

Johnboy1951

swoofer wrote: »

thats the first time I have seen prices and if these are the norm eir wont have a hope. For 1gb with eir its 70 euro a month. I think with siro its 1gb up and down.

no mention on website last time i looked

There is no indication that the price quoted is for 1Gb/s and not one of the lesser plans using fibre ...... I hope it is, but have my doubts .......

tsue921i8wljb3

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

There is no indication that the price quoted is for 1Gb/s and not one of the lesser plans using fibre ...... I hope it is, but have my doubts .......

It doesn't look very official. Is there any chance it is something dreamt up by an enterprising local salesman to get extra commission?

AlmightyCushion

The whole thing does look very amateurish. It could be from a local door to door salesperson that Vodafone use. The thing is dated 29th of October on the top left but we only got it the day before yesterday at the earliest. I'm taking the thing with a massive grain of salt until we get something that is more official looking.

tsue921i8wljb3

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The whole thing does look very amateurish. It could be from a local door to door salesperson that Vodafone use. The thing is dated 29th of October on the top left but we only got it the day before yesterday at the earliest. I'm taking the thing with a massive grain of salt until we get something that is more official looking.

I would be very suprised if that is an official Siro document.

The Cush

Those are Vodafone's current phone and broadband packages and probably has nothing to do with their future FTTH offering unfortunately.

KOR101

It's an out and out trail. No true prices yet, but still really surprised by flyer.

Gonzo

that flyer almost looks like a joke, black and white, no formatting, mobile phone number used for contact.

Manc Red

It's 2015. Could SIRO seriously be using MS word to advertise their product? Oh then add the mobile number.

dbit

If it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck ,.........

Nollog

TireeTerror wrote: »

My friend was on facebook yesterday telling me he has 1Gb download and 50Mb upload, he lives in England.

they have gigabits in large centres, most UK companies don't just stick to the basics of what the law says, they also know that consumers want higher speeds.

dbit wrote: »

If it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck ,.........

must be a goose.

has anyone tried calling?

PeadarB

Just had a visit from the Residents Association rep who said KN need residents permission to work around the ESB mini-pillars to facilitate the installation of FTTH, which they expect to be installed before Christmas. Yahoooo... Any one know a good VOIP provider?

Nollog

PeadarB wrote: »

Any one know a good VOIP provider?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057372944
There was a thread about that sort of stuff in BA last eircom price increase.

Flibbles

PeadarB wrote: »

Just had a visit from the Residents Association rep who said KN need residents permission to work around the ESB mini-pillars to facilitate the installation of FTTH, which they expect to be installed before Christmas. Yahoooo... Any one know a good VOIP provider?

This wasn't up Rahan was it? Saw KN up there last night.

PeadarB

Flibbles wrote: »

This wasn't up Rahan was it? Saw KN up there last night.

Ashbrook. Rang Siro and they simply said that Letterkenny will be lit up before Christmas. The KN guys were at some of the houses outlining their plans. They did an audit of the ESB mini-pillars some time ago when one of them confirmed to me that KN had the contract. Interesting times coming up to the holidays in six weeks. Better than Santa

Liamario

swoofer wrote: »

thats the first time I have seen prices and if these are the norm eir wont have a hope. For 1gb with eir its 70 euro a month. I think with siro its 1gb up and down.

no mention on website last time i looked

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Even UPC will struggle against that pricing.

I think that pricing is for up to 300mbs. The flyer is a little misleading. While it mentions 1gb in the header, it only refers to 300mbs in the main text.

AlmightyCushion

Liamario wrote: »

I think that pricing is for up to 300mbs. The flyer is a little misleading. While it mentions 1gb in the header, it only refers to 300mbs in the main text.

It's hard to tell as the flyer is pretty poor. I sent a copy onto SIRO asking for some clarification but they never got back to me.

Slutmonkey57b

Anyone who believes that flyer is from any sort of reputable organisation, much less SIRO, probably also believes a Nigerian Prince is holding their lottery winnings.

dbit

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Even UPC will struggle against that pricing.

UPC will not be challenged on this as it is they can deliver with some small upgrades 10GB synchronus , now Virgin , liberty ..........
(Docsis 3 standards provided docsis 3.0 gear is in use end to end they can go faster than the current 1 GB offerings for FTTH)
Money will be no object to them if you ask me ?

I dont see FTTH from any provider being a threat to UPC/VIRGIN/LIBERTY

rob808

dbit wrote: »

UPC will not be challenged on this as it is they can deliver with some small upgrades 10GB synchronus , now Virgin , liberty ..........
(Docsis 3 standards provided docsis 3.0 gear is in use end to end they can go faster than the current 1 GB offerings for FTTH)
Money will be no object to them if you ask me ?

I dont see FTTH from any provider being a threat to UPC/VIRGIN/LIBERTY

well depend on the other ISP they probably do it cheaper than Eir but don't think Virgin media to worry at moment since a lot of there customers are in Dublin.

It should be interesting to see when Virgin media launch Docsis 3.1 to compete against FTTH.

ED E

dbit wrote: »

UPC will not be challenged on this as it is they can deliver with some small upgrades 10GB synchronus , now Virgin , liberty ..........
(Docsis 3 standards provided docsis 3.0 gear is in use end to end they can go faster than the current 1 GB offerings for FTTH)
Money will be no object to them if you ask me ?

I dont see FTTH from any provider being a threat to UPC/VIRGIN/LIBERTY

Its not quite that simple. 3.1 will push 1GB, but only when the cable is in great condition. Thats only going to be the case in areas that have been overhauled in the past few years.

Also, its Asymmetric 10:1 just like GPON.

And we've no idea how many of the current CMTS units are up to 3.1, theres a fair equipment rollout there. So its not totally a flick of the switch for VM.

dbit

Well Virgin UPc is in practically every major town in Ireland ( cities and large towns) so the penetration rate is already high for them .

Ed we talked of this before and the grade of cable UPC put in place after they bought up the regional operators is of the standard, it was purchased with future proof in mind. As it is now they can stuff hoards more bands down and up the lines .

Why would they roll-out cheap ****ty cable when that was the majority of issues when they bought it ? The 3.1 CMTS and end user modem is all that would have to change.

Albeit they have to terminate more fiber to cmts or backplane.

bk

The new router/modem Virgin is currently rolling out is a DOCSIS 3.0 model and it looks like it has enough channels to do 1Gb/s.

With DOCSIS 3.1 in future they will likely be able to push speeds even higher.

The key advantage Virgin will have is speed of rollout and cost. With the new modems, etc. Virgin should be able to rollout 1Gb/s to most of their 700,000 home foot print very quickly, while it will take years for Eir and SIRO to rollout FTTH to the same number of homes.

Also the cost of Virgin doing 1Gb/s over their existing infrastrucutre should be a lot less then rolling out new FTTH, so I expect they will be able to relatively easily undercut Eir's pricing. Siro might be a greater challenge, but Virgin should still be able to undercut them, which is why I expect SIRO has repeatedly said they have no plans to go head to head with Virgin.

Nichard Dixon

Just as computers reached a speed a decade ago where most people were happy enough for your basic email, spreadsheets and word processing, so network speeds reach a level where most people won't want to pay for any extra speed. UPC is up around those levels already. Once you can stream hi def video, there isn't currently a lot of need for speed beyond that on most occasions.

dbit

Nichard Dixon wrote: »

Just as computers reached a speed a decade ago where most people were happy enough for your basic email, spreadsheets and word processing, so network speeds reach a level where most people won't want to pay for any extra speed. UPC is up around those levels already. Once you can stream hi def video, there isn't currently a lot of need for speed beyond that on most occasions.

I would say you are right for the general masses , but there are those of us who would split a few blood cells at the thought of even 5KB missing from the speed throughput . Simply because we can ask why when we spot something odd .

fr0zen

imgur com/aRaL46II

SIRO cabinet in Carrigaline just outside of the Gaeilscoil, from what I have seen they have completed 2 estates (one where the TD lives of course) and are working on 2 estates currently, will update if I come across anything more, no shortage of tli vans in Carrigaline anway

KOR101

fr0zen wrote: »

imgur com/aRaL46II

SIRO cabinet in Carrigaline just outside of the Gaeilscoil, from what I have seen they have completed 2 estates (one where the TD lives of course) and are working on 2 estates currently, will update if I come across anything more, no shortage of tli vans in Carrigaline anway

link?

fr0zen

KOR101 wrote: »

link?

Imgur com/aRaL46II < can't post links here ;_;

fr0zen

^nvm broken link; imgur com/gzAZOkB

ED E

FYP

EDIT: and resized. Focus is well....

Nollog

fr0zen wrote: »

Imgur com/aRaL46II < can't post links here ;_;

You had an extra l on the end.

I've seen a few of those white boxes around.