SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

rob808

TireeTerror wrote: »

I would not be happy with anything other than truly unlimited with none of that rip off (why have the regulators not crucified those lying cnuts) fair use policy nonsense.

I do not want to have to even consider what data Im consuming, I want absolute freedom to stream 100% bluray rips if I choose. Thats my prerogative, and is SIRO wont offer it, they can jog right on!

The thing is you don't have go with Vodafone it a Open network you go with magnet and get unlimited downloads it comes down to prices and how much your willing to spend.I think Vodafone happy enough to just take line rental since there partner with ESB.

bk

€55 for 350Mb/s with a 1TB cap is also a little steep.

+ another €15 for Irish landines and mobile calls for a total of €70

By comparison I'm paying UPC/Virgin €45 for 240Mb/s + no cap + Irish Landlines and calls.

No wonder SIRO is avoiding Virgin areas, no one would switch at those prices!

Of course great news if you are currently stuck on a crappy <10 Mb/s rural connection.

But anyone on more then a 30Mb/s VDSL connection would probably want to seriously think if they would actually make use of this speed, specially when capped.

cunnijo

bk wrote: »

€55 for 350Mb/s with a 1TB cap is also a little steep.

+ another €15 for Irish landines and mobile calls for a total of €70

By comparison I'm paying UPC/Virgin €45 for 240Mb/s + no cap + Irish Landlines and calls.

No wonder SIRO is avoiding Virgin areas, no one would switch at those prices!

Of course great news if you are currently stuck on a crappy <10 Mb/s rural connection.

But anyone on more then a 30Mb/s VDSL connection would probably want to seriously think if they would actually make use of this speed, specially

when capped.

I totally agree. €70pm for 350MB + Calls is steep, especially with capping on it. As regards competing with Virgin Media they will be facing this in some areas (my own area here in Naas and Navan are prime examples of this). So their pricing will have to drop fairly sharpish. Navan is one of the first 10 areas in the SIRO rollout as it happens.

We seem to be forgetting the potential competitor here in the form of Eir FTTH. €87pm after 6 months for 1GB + calls. Much better value for money and will be available in more areas than SIRO initially. What are the chances of other ISP's (with exception of Vodafone) will go that route if that is a cheaper option and the potential of better returns/profits.

rob808

bk wrote: »

€55 for 350Mb/s with a 1TB cap is also a little steep.

+ another €15 for Irish landines and mobile calls for a total of €70

By comparison I'm paying UPC/Virgin €45 for 240Mb/s + no cap + Irish Landlines and calls.

No wonder SIRO is avoiding Virgin areas, no one would switch at those prices!

Of course great news if you are currently stuck on a crappy <10 Mb/s rural connection.

But anyone on more then a 30Mb/s VDSL connection would probably want to seriously think if they would actually make use of this speed, specially when capped.

Im lucky to have 4mb DSL I live in a rural location and my only other option ripplecom and for 8mb and 1up €45 and 70Gb allowance think how fast you go through that 1Tb from Vodafone isn't to bad.

bk

rob808 wrote: »

Im lucky to have 4mb DSL I live in a rural location and my only other option ripplecom and for 8mb and 1up €45 and 70Gb allowance think how fast you go through that 1Tb from Vodafone isn't to bad.

Of course, for people like you, it is fantastic news.

However unfortunately very rural customers like you don't make for an economic business model. They need to win over at least the VDSL customers from the more densely populated towns and potentially Virgin/UPC customers in order to make this all worth doing.

I don't think they will win over many people with this sort of pricing.

KOR101

bk wrote: »

€55 for 350Mb/s with a 1TB cap is also a little steep.

Isn't this just standard 'early adopter' pricing. Once they have greater demand, and the capacity to meet that demand (really doubtful at present) then prices will naturally fall.

KOR101

kingtiger wrote: »

Here is my data usage on a Gigabit connection since 19/11



you will hammer a 1TB cap inside of 2-3 days by just streaming a few TV shows \ Movies along with the various tablets \ consoles \ phones\ TVs \ etc on your connection

it just mounts up

You just have to laugh. Most people posting here think it's only a minority that need FTTH just now.

Nollog

Siro emailed me to tell me Vodafone are their first retail partner, and siro is now available in Dundalk and Carrigaline.

They're only surveying in LK which sucks. Don't know how they could say it'll be here by Christmas with that.

digiman

kingtiger wrote: »

Here is my data usage on a Gigabit connection since 19/11



you will hammer a 1TB cap inside of 2-3 days by just streaming a few TV shows \ Movies along with the various tablets \ consoles \ phones\ TVs \ etc on your connection

it just mounts up

Are you just seeding torrents with unlimited upload? The ISPs will love this

kingtiger

digiman wrote: »

Are you just seeding torrents with unlimited upload? The ISPs will love this

not every user of upload means torrents

Start using cloud storage and a Plex server with a gig up and you will see why

satguy

My son has a YouTube Channel and can upload a good bit of video some weeks..

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSkGhhFq5DZLhYQf7atrig

Is uploading 3 at the moment... So a cap would never work in this house..

dxhound2005

/\/ollog wrote: »

Siro emailed me to tell me Vodafone are their first retail partner, and siro is now available in Dundalk and Carrigaline.

They're only surveying in LK which sucks. Don't know how they could say it'll be here by Christmas with that.

I got that e mail as well. They are busy this last few days around the Avenue Road and St Alphonsus Road areas of Dundalk.

Saying that Vodafone is their first partner suggests that they will have others. I'm hoping that Eir will be a reseller since I would prefer not to have to switch providers. Does anyone know if Eir would be interested in doing this or would they be allowed?

rob808

satguy wrote: »

My son has a YouTube Channel and can upload a good bit of video some weeks..

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSkGhhFq5DZLhYQf7atrig

Is uploading 3 at the moment... So a cap would never work in this house..

I think for big users it definitely wouldn't work does anybody know which ISP join siro to use there network most likely you could go with magnet,Sky who have unlimited download allowance.

digiman

kingtiger wrote: »

not every user of upload means torrents

Start using cloud storage and a Plex server with a gig up and you will see why

I'm not familiar with Flex to be honest but how on earth could a home user be uploading at 50Mb/s every second of the day for 11 days?

kingtiger

digiman wrote: »

I'm not familiar with Flex to be honest but how on earth could a home user be uploading at 50Mb/s every second of the day for 11 days?

Very easily, once you have that speed you get very used to it, I also don't have any TV box / dish / Ariel

Everything comes though the Internet, I also have kids that stream to twitch / YouTube / etc

Also 4K content can be quite bandwidth heavy

Sign up for plex (its free) and PM me your Plex username and I will send you an invite this will give you a taste of proper VOD

guil

kingtiger wrote: »

Very easily, once you have that speed you get very used to it, I also don't have any TV box / dish / Ariel

Everything comes though the Internet, I also have kids that stream to twitch / YouTube / etc

Also 4K content can be quite bandwidth heavy

Sign up for plex (its free) and PM me your Plex username and I will send you an invite this will give you a taste of proper VOD

Surely though the big usage would be downloading if you were streaming? How could you be uploading 6 times what you download if you're streaming?

ED E

He's library sharing with friends.

This is going really into gray areas unless these are all "home movies". Might be best to leave it there.

TireeTerror

ED E wrote: »

He's library sharing with friends.

This is going really into gray areas unless these are all "home movies". Might be best to leave it there.

Send me a link please! hahaha

Nollog

guil wrote: »

Surely though the big usage would be downloading if you were streaming? How could you be uploading 6 times what you download if you're streaming?

Streaming to twitch etc. Is upload. Watching streams on twitch is download.

Richard tea

My contract with sky is up in 8 months. Where can I find info on the esb/vodafone rollout? Or any idea if or when it's available in the Midlands ( kinnegad)

ukoda

Richard tea wrote: »

My contract with sky is up in 8 months. Where can I find info on the esb/vodafone rollout? Or any idea if or when it's available in the Midlands ( kinnegad)

http://siro.ie/roll-out/

irishgeo

its seems to be taking a lot longer than they planned.

PeadarB

I see that Letterkenny, one of the first 10 "Fibrehoods" has gone back to "planned" from "available soon." There is very little activity of note from Siro in Letterkenny of late.

Flibbles

PeadarB wrote: »

I see that Letterkenny, one of the first 10 "Fibrehoods" has gone back to "planned" from "available soon." There is very little activity of note from Siro in Letterkenny of late.

Or anywhere really, you'd think as a communications company they would have more detailed communications.

damienirel

Seems very quiet on the twitter machine too...
https://twitter.com/SIROIreland?lang=en

jca

Is she dead in the water guys? There was great esb activity here last September / October but nothing since.

rustalan

They were working in Dundalk right up to Christmas. I haven't seen any activity since. I was talking to one of the guys and he told me that they would be up my way Feb/March.

I did seen a van or 2 driving around town last week though.

user2011

There based up at the old brewery see them coming out of there every morning.

joe_99

I have heard from a source that i would consider reliable that they may have underestimated the costs of this. It is a huge undertaking and i hear that their ducts are not a clear as they assumed. Having big issues with contractors as well because they are on fixed price contracts and the costs to the contractors have sky rocketed to the point where they are losing money and no longer prepared to do the work.

jca

joe_99 wrote: »

I have heard from a source that i would consider reliable that they may have underestimated the costs of this. It is a huge undertaking and i hear that their ducts are not a clear as they assumed. Having big issues with contractors as well because they are on fixed price contracts and the costs to the contractors have sky rocketed to the point where they are losing money and no longer prepared to do the work.

That doesn't surprise me I thought they were being very optimistic with the estimated cost. A lot of people including myself are very happy with my Eircom fttc, we were the people they were trying to get but I don't think it's working for them. The people in rural areas who are crying out for any type of decent reliable bb would take siro's offering in a heartbeat but it's too costly for siro...a real chicken and egg situation.