SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

ED E

digiman wrote: »

Best thing would be to download a large file from Heanet and just run a ping via the CLI on your macbook. The thing with having a 1Gb/s connection is that it almost impossible to find servers that will max it out.

I see that mentioned on a continual basis but no evidence to show it. Testing on 1G connections I never see any unexpected slowdown.

If you're big enough to operate a node you're big enough to use 4x1G or 2x10G in LACP.

Mgit

My ping's were poor at first but are consistently 4ms now on WiFi and ethernet

ED E wrote: »

I see that mentioned on a continual basis but no evidence to show it. Testing on 1G connections I never see any unexpected slowdown.

If you're big enough to operate a node you're big enough to use 4x1G or 2x10G in LACP.

jimmad

I'd be interested in some tracerts in cmd PeadarB, are they any lower than efibre?

9726_9726

ED E wrote: »

I see that mentioned on a continual basis but no evidence to show it. Testing on 1G connections I never see any unexpected slowdown.

If you're big enough to operate a node you're big enough to use 4x1G or 2x10G in LACP.

Hey Ed E,

Bizarrely, Ookla allow hosting with as little as 100M! Like WTF? Was just looking at this last week. Might be out of date, in fairness. I'd say plenty of hosts have 10Gb peering but still have 1Gb NIC.

I've stood in front of one of the well-known Irish speedtest.net servers in a DC (can't say which one but it's a regional one) and it is running on a Dell R410 on a single 1Gb NIC, even though the box has 2xNIC. The host is running one other very light workload on it too.

Ookla seem to insist on bare metal at least, rather than on a VM which is fair enough.



http://www.ookla.com/support/a84598408
Network Capacity
Uplink/Upstream Capacity of +100 Mbps (towns & small cities) and 1 Gbps (large cities & metropolitan areas)
Downlink/Downstream Capacity of +100 Mbps (towns & small cities) and 1 Gbps (large cities & metropolitan areas)

digiman

9726_9726 wrote: »

Hey Ed E,

Bizarrely, Ookla allow hosting with as little as 100M! Like WTF? Was just looking at this last week. Might be out of date, in fairness. I'd say plenty of hosts have 10Gb peering but still have 1Gb NIC.

I've stood in front of one of the well-known Irish speedtest.net servers in a DC (can't say which one but it's a regional one) and it is running on a Dell R410 on a single 1Gb NIC, even though the box has 2xNIC. The host is running one other very light workload on it too.

Ookla seem to insist on bare metal at least, rather than on a VM which is fair enough.



http://www.ookla.com/support/a84598408
Network Capacity
Uplink/Upstream Capacity of +100 Mbps (towns & small cities) and 1 Gbps (large cities & metropolitan areas)
Downlink/Downstream Capacity of +100 Mbps (towns & small cities) and 1 Gbps (large cities & metropolitan areas)

+1, can also say for a fact that I've seen the same recently but from one of the ISPs that you would have thought would have had more than 1Gb/s.

To be fair to them it's only in the last year since FTTH started to roll out that this has become and issue (if you can call it an issue) and as far as the ISP is concerned it's probably not something on the top of their list of priorities!!

ED E

Oops, seems you're correct

NB: Client machines using 1Gb ports so I cant properly test >1Gb

Ballina Communications: 100Mb
Blacknight Carlow: 1000Mb
Digiweb Dublin: 1000Mb
Net1 Eniskillen: 1000Mb
Eir Dublin: >2Gb
Three Dublin: ~1Gb

10Gb from the parent building but most of the access network is only 1Gb

digiman

ED E wrote: »

Oops, seems you're correct

NB: Client machines using 1Gb ports so I cant properly test >1Gb

Ballina Communications: 100Mb
Blacknight Carlow: 1000Mb
Digiweb Dublin: 1000Mb
Net1 Eniskillen: 1000Mb
Eir Dublin: >2Gb
Three Dublin: ~1Gb

10Gb from the parent building but most of the access network is only 1Gb

Where did you find this info?

ED E

digiman wrote: »

Where did you find this info?

I ran the tests myself.

Riesen_Meal

Why are the pings so high?

Will that even out in time?

Or is it that it can't be speedtested properly via Ookla?

ED E

Fieldog wrote: »

Why are the pings so high?

Will that even out in time?

Or is it that it can't be speedtested properly via Ookla?

So high? 15-21ms is not high for a retail service.

Riesen_Meal

ED E wrote: »

So high? 15-21ms is not high for a retail service.

I get pings off 8-11 from speedtest on average, I do notice higher pings in my Mothers UPC connection, just thought the pings seemed high for the new service...

bloodyhawk

ED E wrote: »

So high? 15-21ms is not high for a retail service.

What? Retail service? Are you implying that the latency is higher for the retail customers compared to the commercial? How so, Could you please elaborate more on that, ED E

ED E

bloodyhawk wrote: »

What? Retail service? Are you implying that the latency is higher for the retail customers compared to the commercial? How so, Could you please elaborate more on that, ED E

I was comparing to B2B fibre products which generally get better interconnectivity on the following hops.


@Fieldog the latency there isnt from the new service(GPON), its from that access layer to where your packets hit the public net.

bloodyhawk

Fieldog wrote: »

I get pings off 8-11 from speedtest on average, I do notice higher pings in my Mothers UPC connection, just thought the pings seemed high for the new service...

I was on the similar boat as you, except i was getting those similar ping results on a DSL line, So i understand the confusion.
I think some people are surprised by the ping results being a little higher than expected, is because it is advertised as 100% FTTH for what its worth....?!?!
I have a friend in Londonderry also with a FTTH who is getting an incredible ping times of 5-7 in England, but the difference is he is on the dedicated commercial internet!

Nollog

Congrats peadar. I'd like to see a traceroute too.


#TeamYellow

bloodyhawk

ED E wrote: »

I was comparing to B2B fibre products which generally get better interconnectivity on the following hops.

ED E, having said that do you think that Siros dedicated symmetrical business broadband (P2P) will have better inter connectivity compared to their retail home broadband (GPON)?

ED E

bloodyhawk wrote: »

ED E, having said that do you think that Siros dedicated symmetrical business broadband (P2P) will have better inter connectivity compared to their retail home broadband (GPON)?

I would guess so. If they're offering dark glass for leasing then you've none of the AAA to go through.

Chimichangas

Has anyone gone with vodafone for siro and phone?
How is that working? Is the phone through the modem/siro, or was it a previous install?

I am hearing it needs to go through the modem, otherwise youre paying loads for the line rental.

ED E

Chimichangas wrote: »

Has anyone gone with vodafone for siro and phone?
How is that working? Is the phone through the modem/siro, or was it a previous install?

I am hearing it needs to go through the modem, otherwise youre paying loads for the line rental.

Yep, its VOIP. Exactly the same as every Virgin customer in the country. If you want to use your homes extension sockets you can backfeed them.

imass

Hi needs set down line and be fine. Should be about 3 ms ping☺

i_davison

Hi i like probably quite a few eir customers in Letterkenny have been given the option of ending there contracts early as i got a letter on Monday informing me that my contract will be increasing in price by €8 a month. The great part of this is that I can cancel my contract and move to Siro and Vodafone Lightspeed. I have ordered the 350/70 package. I have been on eir 1gb FTTH package since march and have not been happy with it. Can anyone tell me what KN install on the day in terms of hardware setup etc who have lightspeed in already and connection speeds they are getting. Thanks.

i_davison

When kn installed eir ftth they set me up with a huawei HG8010 GPON Terminal does Vodafone use the same GPON or something different with lightspeed?

KOR101

On Radio Kerry this morning. Said that SIRO will be available to Tralee customers from Monday through Vodaphone. 1,000 homes will have it available now. 8,000 should be completed by Christmas. The plan is to cover all 10/12K homes in the Tralee town footprint. SIRO's commercial manager said that any move to Phase 2 would depend on the commercial results from Phase 1 (50 towns).

ED E

i_davison wrote: »

When kn installed eir ftth they set me up with a huawei HG8010 GPON Terminal does Vodafone use the same GPON or something different with lightspeed?

i_davison wrote: »

Hi i like probably quite a few eir customers in Letterkenny have been given the option of ending there contracts early as i got a letter on Monday informing me that my contract will be increasing in price by €8 a month. The great part of this is that I can cancel my contract and move to Siro and Vodafone Lightspeed. I have ordered the 350/70 package. I have been on eir 1gb FTTH package since march and have not been happy with it. Can anyone tell me what KN install on the day in terms of hardware setup etc who have lightspeed in already and connection speeds they are getting. Thanks.

Its more GPON, but the ONT used may be different. They may also bring it into a different point using their duct instead of OpenEirs.

bk

i_davison wrote: »

Hi i like probably quite a few eir customers in Letterkenny have been given the option of ending there contracts early as i got a letter on Monday informing me that my contract will be increasing in price by €8 a month. The great part of this is that I can cancel my contract and move to Siro and Vodafone Lightspeed. I have ordered the 350/70 package. I have been on eir 1gb FTTH package since march and have not been happy with it. Can anyone tell me what KN install on the day in terms of hardware setup etc who have lightspeed in already and connection speeds they are getting. Thanks.

Wow, lucky so and so's. The option of two different 1Gb/s FTTH operators.

Hopefully that will be the way for everyone in the country in the not too distant future.

KOR101

i_davison wrote: »

Hi i like probably quite a few eir customers in Letterkenny have been given the option of ending there contracts early as i got a letter on Monday informing me that my contract will be increasing in price by €8 a month. The great part of this is that I can cancel my contract and move to Siro and Vodafone Lightspeed. I have ordered the 350/70 package. I have been on eir 1gb FTTH package since march and have not been happy with it. Can anyone tell me what KN install on the day in terms of hardware setup etc who have lightspeed in already and connection speeds they are getting. Thanks.

What are you not happy about with EIR FTTH?

satguy

bk wrote: »

Wow, lucky so and so's. The option of two different 1Gb/s FTTH operators.

Who would have thought that,, even 6 years back,, How far we have come.

And for people like me in their 50's, we have seen it all, even that white dot on the screen that sent us all to bed, now just seems like a bad dream..

i_davison

Eir ftth are not giving me the speeds pretty proud mixed or anywhere near to it I am on the 1gbps package am get just a max of 220mbps on my iPad the same speed I was getting on the 350mbps package

i_davison

The only difference is the upload speed of 95mbps, Siro Vodafone promises 200mbps upload. Although I am going for the 350mbps package with Vodafone should get over a hundred download more than Eir's 1gbps package!!

guil

i_davison wrote: »

Eir ftth are not giving me the speeds pretty proud mixed or anywhere near to it I am on the 1gbps package am get just a max of 220mbps on my iPad the same speed I was getting on the 350mbps package

You will be in for a big surprise when you change to vodafone because it will be the exact same.