World Cup 2014 Super Thread copyright warning #1645

That_Guy

Chris Smalling is having a shocker.

Skylinehead

Andersonisgod wrote: »

After the under 21 tournament they were hyped to the moon, especially after it became clear that they would also be playing for the same club. Any time they play together at the heart of the Man Utd defence you will almost inevitably hear the commentator say "you may be looking at the long term defensive partnership for Man Utd and England." On the evidence of tonight, and any other time they have played at centre back, I think it's safe to say that wont be the case.

Hmm, I see. Safe to say that hype has evaporated over the last few years :pac:

That_Guy

What I don't get about this game is that Hodgson said they're preparing for Manuas like conditions but opted to play a team who probably won't be their starting XI V Italy in Manaus...

I am pie

Man if England have to start Lampard they are in some trouble! He's about as mobile as a tractor with no wheels.

Andersonisgod

Skylinehead wrote: »

Hmm, I see. Safe to say that hype has evaporated over the last few years :pac:

Probably, the rate of evaporation may be in proportion to how often they've played together.

Looper007

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Still done more than Wilshere has.

get lost, Wilshire has played well.

Ox has been better then both though.

That_Guy

I like James Milner but he's wasted at RB. Does not belong there.

Agueroooo

What channel is the England game on

mike65

Milner is no ones idea of a right back (I know Johnson isn't either but still...!) Ox-Cham has been very bright, Rooney predictably won't stay wide - might as well play him as a CF or not at all - he's having a decent game.

In the Holland - Wales game the home side are sleep walking through the game, if the Welsh had Bale they'd give 'em a game.

That_Guy

Agueroooo wrote: »

What channel is the England game on

ITV 1

Looper007

That_Guy wrote: »

I like James Milner but he's wasted at RB. Does not belong there.

Rather have him then Glen Johnson, what a useless player that lad is. with Milner you get a 100 per cent effort.

Alfred Borden

How about Sturridge upfront and Rooney playing the box to box role beside Gerrard who sits? Gives you the engine of Henderson and creativity of Wilshere all in one, whilst allowing Englands best striker to start up top.

Rayne Wooney

You wouldn't think Rooney only needs 9 more goals to be England's top goal scorer of all time

shano_88

I though Rooney played well. Ox and Barkley also very good. Defence is a shambles though.

That_Guy

That looked like Lambert's goal to me.

Looper007

shano_88 wrote: »

I though Rooney played well. Ox and Barkley also very good. Defence is a shambles though.

Smalling and Jones, I feel for Utd fan's if they have to start the season with those two plonkers. The Midfield and attack are very good. The Ox has been man of the match so far. He hasn't played since the start of May. I see him been a impact player at the WC.

super_furry

Hodgson is comedy gold. On what planet does sending out a back four of Shaw, Jones, Smalling and Milner a week before the World Cup, make sense?

That_Guy

Saw this stat on Twitter regarding England. Incredible.

England have only ever won 5 matches in the World Cup when the opposition also scored (ARG 62, POR 66, GER 66, FRA 82 and CMR 90)

Super-Rush

I hope Jones and Smalling are United's centre back pairing next season.

K4t

I am pie wrote: »

Man if England have to start Lampard they are in some trouble! He's about as mobile as a tractor with no wheels.

Very underrated player imo. Excellent touch and awareness and a good finisher. Decent squad player.

Smithwicks Man

Marco Verratti is some talent, if he was English he'd cost about £50m

I am pie

super_furry wrote: »

Hodgson is comedy gold. On what planet does sending out a back four of Shaw, Jones, Smalling and Milner a week before the World Cup, make sense?

Makes perfect sense, you might actually want to know how some of your replacements or emergency cover perform in their positions before the world cup.

In a few weeks time this game will be completely forgotten.

Guarantee Johnson will start at RB. Clearly the better option.

That_Guy

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Marco Verratti is some talent, if he was English he'd cost about £50m

Hard to see where he'll fit in with PSG next season.

Professional Griefer

I am pie wrote: »

Makes perfect sense, you might actually want to know how some of your replacements or emergency cover perform in their positions before the world cup.

In a few weeks time this game will be completely forgotten.

Guarantee Johnson will start at RB. Clearly the better option.

How depressing for England fans. :pac:

Smithwicks Man

That_Guy wrote: »

Hard to see where he'll fit in with PSG next season.

Hopefully he'll fit in as the right centre mid in Milan :pac:

He's better than Cabaye, would solve United's midfield problem as well.

I am pie

K4t wrote: »

Very underrated player imo. Excellent touch and awareness and a good finisher. Decent squad player.

Under rated ? By Chelsea too obviously given he is heading off to his retirement home.

Arguably one of Englands best players over the last 10 years but this is one wc too many. Not physically able and all the nice touches and finishing ability in the world doesn't change that.

klose

I am pie wrote: »

Makes perfect sense, you might actually want to know how some of your replacements or emergency cover perform in their positions before the world cup.

In a few weeks time this game will be completely forgotten.

Guarantee Johnson will start at RB. Clearly the better option.

Johnson is useless

That_Guy

What the.... Ross Barkley is playing?

Dozen Wicked Words

super_furry wrote: »

Hodgson is comedy gold. On what planet does sending out a back four of Shaw, Jones, Smalling and Milner a week before the World Cup, make sense?

It's a cunning way to lower our (England fans) expectations even more. They are currently quite low.

I am pie

Professional Griefer wrote: »

How depressing for England fans. :pac:

That's their cross to bear ! Hopefully Liverpool replace him too. Had a hot and cold season, in that he was 90% "cold"

Johner

What a goal.

Great play by Barkley.

Professional Griefer

Great run and finish

Dozen Wicked Words

Good goal, good interaction between the scousers.

LightningBlue

Great goal. Some skill by Barkley in the build up, capped off by a thunderbastard from Rickie Lambert.

I am pie

Lambertinho.

That_Guy

Woof. That was sweet from Barkley in the build up.

Johner

Looper007 wrote: »

get lost, Wilshire has played well.

Haven't been that impressed overall with Wilshere myself.

Hank Scorpio

Is Barkley expected to start for England?

Agueroooo

Whoever lands Barkley in the next 18 months is sorted for a decade and more.

Real talent him.

shano_88

Chamberlain and Barkley have been brilliant.

Johner

shano_88 wrote: »

Chamberlain and Barkley have been brilliant.

The two stand out players on the pitch.

klose

A trio of sterling, ox and barkley would be very interesting to see here. Young and untested sure but it could be a lethal combination.

Hank Scorpio

typical Valencia shot

mike65

Up the Fish Cake Army!

LightningBlue

Chamberlain has to start against Italy. Can fulfill any of the roles in the AM three.

mike65

klose wrote: »

A trio of sterling, ox and barkley would be very interesting to see here. Young and untested sure but it could be a lethal combination.

Was just thinking that as Ox-Cham rampaged down the inside left channel.

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Gerrard

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Hendo
Sterling<>--Barkley--<>Ox-Cham

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Rooney or Sturridge

Lol, that was ridiculous

Andersonisgod

I'm going to have to don my GSP cap and say, in relation to Ross Barkley, I'm not impressed. That's not to say I don't think he's played well tonight or that he isn't a talent but, for a number 10 I think that too often he doesn't het the basics right and his influence isn't what it should be.

Beefy78

Johner wrote: »

Haven't been that impressed overall with Wilshere myself.

No, I like Wilshere a lot but was hoping for much better from him tonight.

I love the look of us going forward but if we take a single injury at the back then we might as well jump on the next plane home.

Professional Griefer

mike65 wrote: »

Was just thinking that as Ox-Cham rampaged down the inside left channel.

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Gerrard

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Hendo
Sterling<>--Barkley--<>Ox-Cham

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Rooney or Sturridge

Gerrard? Nope.