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greendom

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Brilliant work... thanks very much !

redzerdrog

can you throw in Flanagan?

Genuinely interested to see how he faired in comparison

Beefy78

klose wrote: »

Looks like kyle walker isn't going either according to sky. Probably leaves johnson as their starting rb which is gas as hes been awful this year. Cant think of any other rbs so hodge probably has jones/smalling pencilled in to fill in at rb.

Johnson is much better than Walker.

ASOT

redzerdrog wrote: »

can you throw in Flanagan?

Genuinely interested to see how he faired in comparison

Diabhal Beag

This is probably as close as a tribute thread for Ashley Cole as we'll get but he was such a great player. I don't think I saw a better fullback in my 15 years of watching football. His performances in their Champions League win will hopefully be fondly remembered. He obviously seems like a bit of a mong but a great player nonetheless.

Corholio

Beefy78 wrote: »

Johnson is much better than Walker.

Defensively, they are much of a muchness really. Walker's problem is that he gets caught forward so often.

Seaneh

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

This is probably as close as a tribute thread for Ashley Cole as we'll get but he was such a great player. I don't think I saw a better fullback in my 15 years of watching football. His performances in their Champions League win will hopefully be fondly remembered. He obviously seems like a bit of a mong but a great player nonetheless.

He was brilliant, and the best left back in the world for a long time and probably the best fullback in the premier league since it started, but a few other fullbacks who've played over the last 15 years have him bettered...











But of the currently playing fullbacks, himself and Philip Lahm have been the stand outs for a long, long time, and it's a pity A.C. has such a fall this year because I honestly thought he had a few more years at the top left in him.

kfallon

is it true Schweinsteiger (spelling?) got injured at the weekend? Heard it mentioned on BT Sport's European Soccer Show yesterday. Anyone know how serious it is.....if true?

DubDani

kfallon wrote: »

is it true Schweinsteiger (spelling?) got injured at the weekend? Heard it mentioned on BT Sport's European Soccer Show yesterday. Anyone know how serious it is.....if true?

Yes, he got injured at the weekend, but according to Bayern nothing too serious. Needs to sit out training for 2 or 3 days, and might not make the German Cup Final at the weekend. But WC is not in danger.

aodea

DubDani wrote: »

Yes, he got injured at the weekend, but according to Bayern nothing too serious. Needs to sit out training for 2 or 3 days, and might not make the German Cup Final at the weekend. But WC is not in danger.

yeah i heard he will be back in no time. Germany need not worry.

klose

Spains 30 man squad is up and a deserved call up for de gea.

Hard to pick the 7 who will be cut, id imagine a fair amount of the forwards will be.

Agueroooo

Spain @7/1 is a big price, no?

glued

I'd leave out Torres, Carvajal,, Iturraspe, David Villa, Alberto Moreno, Cazorla, Thiago Alcantara

kfallon

Isco not in the squad?

glued

kfallon wrote: »

Isco not in the squad?

Only played 8 minutes of Qualifying. Not surprising really.

aodea

glued wrote: »

Only played 8 minutes of Qualifying. Not surprising really.

Really amazing the strength and depth that the spanish have in particular in Midfield.

Would not be suprised to see Mata, Carzola and Villa cut from this squad. Torres will do well to make the cut as well.

Good descion to bring De gea. He wont play in world cup but good tournment experince for a keeper who may be spains number one in a few years and then may be there for a long time.

mike65

Its a handy squad Belgium have but is it enough?

Beefy78

I hadn't seen that Janazaj had declared for Belgium. Must have missed that.

It's a tasty looking squad but I think this is one tournament too soon. Will be interesting to see how they get on though.

I am pie

NIMAN wrote: »

Weakest England squad at a WC ever?

I actually think the last squad for 2010 was significantly weaker.

Gringo180

Higuain for top scorer he was 20/1 last time I looked surely worth a bet.

aodea

mike65 wrote: »

Its a handy squad Belgium have but is it enough?

Couple of big name players in the squad. Benteke is massive miss. Divock Origi i know little about? Think good starting 11 then it gets a little weaker. Would say they will be underachivers in this world cup but like them for the next euros.

I am pie

Gringo180 wrote: »

Higuain for top scorer he was 20/1 last time I looked surely worth a bet.

You'd have to assume Aguero and Messi are going to weigh in with goals, Di Maria might get a couple if fit, there's goals throughout their top 4, not sure Higuain will get enough to top it.

Fred might be a bettter bet.

kfallon

Gringo180 wrote: »

Higuain for top scorer he was 20/1 last time I looked surely worth a bet.

Prefer Aguero at 18's myself!

callaway92

glued wrote: »

I'd leave out Torres, Carvajal,, Iturraspe, David Villa, Alberto Moreno, Cazorla, Thiago Alcantara

Seriously???

If fully fit he's one of the best central midfielders in the world imo. Top class player.

Skylinehead

callaway92 wrote: »

Seriously???

If fully fit he's one of the best central midfielders in the world imo. Top class player.

He's not better than Xavi/Alonso/Fabregas/Iniesta/Busquets or arguably Koke. What's the point in bringing him?

hullaballoo

Samir Nasri hasn't made the French squad. Has to be the most bizarre omission I've seen yet.

The French are always at something.

xtal191

hullaballoo wrote: »

Samir Nasri hasn't made the French squad. Has to be the most bizarre omission I've seen yet.

The French are always at something.

Crazy stuff

Washington Irving

hullaballoo wrote: »

Samir Nasri hasn't made the French squad. Has to be the most bizarre omission I've seen yet.

The French are always at something.

Seems to be down to player attitude rather than ability. Wouldn't blame Deschamps for leaving him out after WC 2010 and Euro 2012.

Full squad:

GK

Mickaël Landreau
Hugo Lloris
Steve Mandanda

Defence

Mathieu Debuchy
Lucas Digne
Patrice Evra
Laurent Koscielny
Eliaquim Mangala
Bacary Sagna
Mamadou Sakho
Raphaël Varane

Midfield

Yohan Cabaye
Clément Grenier
Blaise Matuidi
Rio Mavuba
Paul Pogba
Moussa Sissoko
Mathieu Valbuena

Attackers

Karim Benzema
Olivier Giroud
Antoine Griezmann
Loïc Rémy
Franck Ribéry

Stand by:

Rémy Cabella
Maxime Gonalons
Alexandre Lacazette
Loïc Perrin
Stéphane Ruffier
Morgan Schneiderlin
Benoît Tremoulinas

aodea

hullaballoo wrote: »

Samir Nasri hasn't made the French squad. Has to be the most bizarre omission I've seen yet.

The French are always at something.

Has not featured for awhile. Had one game against Ukraine where he was dreadful and manager and media questioned his attitude so just not wanted in French squad.

Good player and hard to believe noThing has been done to fix the problem but sometimes you need to do the best for the squad.

shrewdness

Washington Irving wrote: »

Seems to be down to player attitude rather than ability. Wouldn't blame Deschamps for leaving him out after WC 2010 and Euro 2012.

Nail on the head there I'd say.

Deschamps: "I've chosen the best squad, not necessarily the best 23 players."

shrewdness

Falcao named in Columbia squad, fantastic.

Skylinehead

Can't possibly be a better 4 centre halves than that French team, all superb players.

glued

Skylinehead wrote: »

Can't possibly be a better 4 centre halves than that French team, all superb players.

Really? Wouldn't call Sakho a superb player. Mangala and Varane should be the two to start but you never know.

Think Spain have the best defence if they play: Azpilicueta, Pique, Ramos and Jordi Alba

Skylinehead

glued wrote: »

Really? Wouldn't call Sakho a superb player. Mangala and Varane should be the two to start but you never know.

Think Spain have the best defence if they play: Azpilicueta, Pique, Ramos and Jordi Alba

He was superb for PSG, I wouldn't judge him off one season here. Not that he's been bad for Liverpool myself. I'd go for Kos-Varane myself, but I'm biased.

As for Spain, they're alright there. Not a fan of Pique, and Ramos has a red card in him every time he plays. Azpilicueta is great tbf, but Alba is more a winger playing at LB.

Vinz Mesrine

Does anybody else like the look of Muller as top scorer? Along with Germany to win the competition it's 66/1

Gringo180

glued wrote: »

Really? Wouldn't call Sakho a superb player. Mangala and Varane should be the two to start but you never know.

Think Spain have the best defence if they play: Azpilicueta, Pique, Ramos and Jordi Alba

Koscielney will be first choice centre back hes one of the best defenders in Europe.

Lucas Hood

Germany are playing Poland right now and Draxler is captaining the team bit unusual that. Obviously no Bayern ,Bvb ,Arsenal , Real Madrid or any other teams with games left playing tonight.

Washington Irving

Nasri's girlfriend :pac:



https://twitter.com/_Anara_/status/466287560277639168

Hulk Hands

Skylinehead wrote: »

Can't possibly be a better 4 centre halves than that French team, all superb players.

I have them at 50s to concede the least goals in the tournament. Weird market, but basically was looking for a team that will defend well but likely go out early enough, so France seemed perfect. Market taken down now. Likely p45 for the imbecile that stuck France in at 50s

Bleating Lamb

Looking at French squad there,Patrice Evra a lucky man to make it,considering his form this season and his past form for causing hassle at last Euros.

Liam O

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I have them at 50s to concede the least goals in the tournament. Weird market, but basically was looking for a team that will defend well but likely go out early enough, so France seemed perfect. Market taken down now. Likely p45 for the imbecile that stuck France in at 50s

You can say goodbye to that if Evra plays

glued

Skylinehead wrote: »

He was superb for PSG, I wouldn't judge him off one season here. Not that he's been bad for Liverpool myself. I'd go for Kos-Varane myself, but I'm biased.

As for Spain, they're alright there. Not a fan of Pique, and Ramos has a red card in him every time he plays. Azpilicueta is great tbf, but Alba is more a winger playing at LB.

They tried to get rid of him in 2012 and he played okay in 2013 but he certainly wasn't superb. Leonardo wanted to get rid of him since his performances in 2012. He got back into the team in his final season when Alex got injured around Christmas IIRC. A lot of the hype surrounding Sakho comes from his performances for les Bleuets. In saying that he has played well for France (seniors) since being dropped by Blanc and recalled by Deschamps.

I think Mangala and Varane have the biggest potential. Varane being one of the best defensive talents in the game right now. Mangala has been great and poor for France but he's another player who needs to take his chance before Kurt Zouma starts getting into the team. Kos is the most consistent of the bunch but again he's not been spectacular in qualifying and he was a ready made scapegoat for France's exit had they not qualified due to his stupidity against Ukraine.

Sakho gets a pass as he's obviously a good talent and has had problems with his thigh for some period.

Amirani

glued wrote: »

I'd leave out Torres, Carvajal,, Iturraspe, David Villa, Alberto Moreno, Cazorla, Thiago Alcantara

That'd leave them extremely light on full backs.

glued

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Looking at French squad there,Patrice Evra a lucky man to make it,considering his form this season and his past form for causing hassle at last Euros.

Really now? Who do you suggest replaces him? Clichy has been a disaster for France and Evra is a massive leader in the squad despite the mutiny in Knysna. He was guaranteed to be on that plane.

You're basically suggesting that France leave their starting left back at home. You do realise that he played every minute of every game for France in the qualifiers.

Of course you didn't realise that.

glued

Diego Simeone wrote: »

That'd leave them extremely light on full backs.

They don't tend to carry many defenders, never mind full backs! They brought 3 fullbacks to the Euros and basically two 'full time' full backs to the World Cup although they did have Puyol and Ramos then who could both play full back.

TrustedApple

Just seen the Italy team there Quite impressed with even if 7 players have to cut from it. I see 3 Forwards cut at lest but its hard to say who as they all have very good forum this season in Italy.



Goalkeepers:
Gianluigi Buffon (Juventus), Salvatore Sirigu (Paris Saint-Germain), Mattia Perin (Genoa)

Defenders:
Andrea Barzagli (Juventus), Leonardo Bonucci (Juventus), Giorigo Chiellini (Juventus), Gabriel Paletta (Parma), Andrea Ranocchia (Internazionale), Ignazio Abate (Milan), Mattia De Sciglio (Milan), Christian Maggio (Napoli), Matteo Darmian (Torino), Manuel Pasqual (Fiorentina)

Midfielders:
Andrea Pirlo (Juventus), Claudio Marchisio (Juventus), Thiago Motta (Paris Saint-Germain), Marco Verratti (Paris Saint-Germain), Riccardo Montolivo (Milan), Daniele De Rossi (Roma), Antonio Candreva (Lazio), Marco Parolo (Parma), Alberto Aquilani (Fiorentina), Romulo (Verona)

Forwards:
Mario Balotelli (Milan), Antonio Cassano (Parma), Alessio Cerci (Torino), Ciro Immobile (Torino), Giuseppe Rossi (Fiorentina), Mattia Destro (Roma), Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli)

Seaneh

Andrea Ranocchia, Matteo Darmian, Alberto Aquilani, Rômulo, Marco Parolo, Antonio Cassano, Lorenzo Insigne, Mattia Destro, Antonio Candreva, Manuel Pasqual.

Whatever 7 from the Italian list who don't make it on the plane will be from that group.

Absolutely shocked that Criscito isn't in the squad.

glued

Seaneh wrote: »

Andrea Ranocchia, Matteo Darmian, Alberto Aquilani, Rômulo, Marco Parolo, Antonio Cassano, Lorenzo Insigne, Mattia Destro, Antonio Candreva, Manuel Pasqual.

Whatever 7 from the Italian list who don't make it on the plane will be from that group.

A vote on CDS shows that 21% of readers want Chiellini out and 12% want Balotelli out of the squad for the WC.

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Sondaggi/Risultati/Calcio/3317/Ecco+la+lista+dei+31+preconvocati+da+Prandelli+per+il+Mondiale.+In+Brasile+andranno+in+23.+Chi+lasce?sv=true

Although all Italian papers are junk

TrustedApple

Seaneh wrote: »

Andrea Ranocchia, Matteo Darmian, Alberto Aquilani, Rômulo, Marco Parolo, Antonio Cassano, Lorenzo Insigne, Mattia Destro, Antonio Candreva, Manuel Pasqual.

Whatever 7 from the Italian list who don't make it on the plane will be from that group.

Absolutely shocked that Criscito isn't in the squad.

I see Candreva going anyway as like they kind of need a winger in the team

Shocked that Criscito didnt make the team as i would have put him down as the starting left back for Italy

But never mind the Italian media about Chiellini as he's Italy's best centre back and they miss him when he plays.

I am just trying to what way are they going to be playing ?. As Prandelli can play them in some odd ways at times

Seaneh

glued wrote: »

A vote on CDS shows that 21% of readers want Chiellini out and 12% want Balotelli out of the squad for the WC.

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/Sondaggi/Risultati/Calcio/3317/Ecco+la+lista+dei+31+preconvocati+da+Prandelli+per+il+Mondiale.+In+Brasile+andranno+in+23.+Chi+lasce?sv=true

Although all Italian papers are junk

Not going to happen on either front.