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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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    #3692
    highlydebased
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    SILVAMAN wrote:
    Why? Could windshield not be repaired?

    I imagine it was more to do with crew hours rather than the windshield


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    #3693
    Jamie2k9
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    Ryanair have taken Berlin off sale however Manchester stays for winter. Always suspected both airports wouldn't have a Berlin service.


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    #3694
    JCX BXC
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    Why would SXF do better from Kerry? That always confuses me.

    Another slap in the face for the Shannon management. Neil Pakey seemed more interested in short term unsustainable growth than anything and left before it started to fail.


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    #3695
    marno21
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    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Why would SXF do better from Kerry? That always confuses me.

    Another slap in the face for the Shannon management. Neil Pakey seemed more interested in short term unsustainable growth than anything and left before it started to fail.

    More inbound tourist traffic to KIR like the current inbound traffic from HHN

    Germans are weak for Kerry.


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    #3696
    JCX BXC
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    marno21 wrote: »
    More inbound tourist traffic to KIR like the current inbound traffic from HHN

    Germans are weak for Kerry.

    Are you sure? HHN is an inbound route, but is Berlin not very much an outbound route for Shannon, that won't be replicated in Kerry.

    Also worth asking why Ryanair switched the days of operation from a prime MON/FRI to a rather abysmal TUE/SAT, operation days which killed BVA.


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    #3697
    Masala
    Registered Users Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Masala


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Are you sure? HHN is an inbound route, but is Berlin not very much an outbound route for Shannon, that won't be replicated in Kerry.

    Also worth asking why Ryanair switched the days of operation from a prime MON/FRI to a rather abysmal TUE/SAT, operation days which killed BVA.

    Nothing to stop Berlin becoming an inbound route!!! The Kerry tourism providers will jump on this and do a good job marketing same. Why do Germans use HHN??? They want the Kerry product ... And now tge Berliners will travel for same reason

    And why won't the outbound from Kerry not be as successful as from SNN??? Kerry now has the SNN interests passenger 1 hour up the road and the Cork short break market 1 hour down the road and its own Kerry traveling public 20 minutes away. It still a brilliant short break city and people willl still use it. Just cos it not in SNN doesn't mean it will fail


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    #3698
    JCX BXC
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    Masala wrote: »
    Nothing to stop Berlin becoming an inbound route!!! The Kerry tourism providers will jump on this and do a good job marketing same. Why do Germans use HHN??? They want the Kerry product ... And now tge Berliners will travel for same reason

    And why won't the outbound from Kerry not be as successful as from SNN??? Kerry now has the SNN interests passenger 1 hour up the road and the Cork short break market 1 hour down the road and its own Kerry traveling public 20 minutes away. It still a brilliant short break city and people willl still use it. Just cos it not in SNN doesn't mean it will fail

    No, but when you cut out half the market will it just regenerate all into an inbound route?

    HHN is a completely different route to SXF, at least respect that.

    Why won't outbound from KIR be as successful? There is a reason that Kerry is a regional airport you know:D


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    #3699
    Masala
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    JCX BXC wrote: »
    No, but when you cut out half the market will it just regenerate all into an inbound route?

    HHN is a completely different route to SXF, at least respect that.

    Why won't outbound from KIR be as successful? There is a reason that Kerry is a regional airport you know:D

    Sorry.... You might have to humour me here ... But why would HHN be a different market to Berlin????


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    #3700
    JCX BXC
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    Masala wrote: »
    Sorry.... You might have to humour me here ... But why would HHN be a different market to Berlin????

    Berlin = City, serving a small but highly populated urban area, highly popular route for tourists travelling from Ireland

    Hahn = Located in the middle of nowhere, serving a large but for the most part low populated area (by german standards), not popular with tourists, main traffic is inbound to Kerry.

    Why would NOC be a different market to DUB? Common sense.


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    #3701
    Masala
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    So why is HHN successful fir Kerry???

    There must be some reason Germans are using it. I guess it's cos Kerry has a market appeal that tge Germans want to experience

    So ... Now that Berlin has the access to the same product... Wouldn't it make sense that the northern Germans will be attracted to the same experience???


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    #3702
    JCX BXC
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    Would it? Why exactly?

    Ignoring my point about Berlin being an outbound route from Ireland and Kerry not really having much to offer in that regard passenger wise, will Berlin be comparable to Hahn? Do keep in mind the vast differences between these two parts of Germany.


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    #3703
    Brennans Row
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    Masala wrote: »
    The Kerry tourism providers will jump on this and do a good job marketing same.

    Believe me they don't need to do any marketing to attract the German market to Kerry.

    The Kerry Gold brand is a house hold name in Germany and when the Irish Dairy Board advertise their products on German TV its free tourism marketing for Kerry too.


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    #3704
    Brennans Row
    Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Deal completed to export 10,000 Irish hoggets (AgriLand)

    A deal, between the Wicklow Calf Company and Premier Livestock Market, has just been agreed to export 10,000 Irish hoggets to the Middle East.

    Details of the consignment were finalised on Wednesday, March 1, and the first load of 2,500 hoggets is expected to depart from Shannon Airport next week.

    A further three shipments, of 2,500 hoggets each, have also been agreed which will see 10,000 hoggets flown from Ireland over the next eight weeks.

    The latest agreement follows on from a successful deal between the two parties in 2016, which resulted in 8,000 Irish lambs being exported in the weeks leading up to the Muslim festival of EID.

    Last year, some 48,000 sheep were exported from Ireland by live-export means, which was an increase of almost 50% on the previous year’s 32,000 head.

    According to Bord Bia, 75% of these exports happened during the month of August which is one month ahead of the EID festival.


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    #3705
    Brennans Row
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    Jet diverts to Shannon with ill passenger (Clare Herald)

    A transatlantic jet has diverted to Shannon Airport this afternoon after an elderly passenger fell ill suddenly.

    Norwegian Air Shuttle flight DY-7125 was en route from Copenhagen to Puerto Rico at the time.

    The Boeing 787-800 Dreamliner jet was an hour west of Shannon Airport when the crew declared a medical emergency at around 12.30pm.


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    #3706
    Jamie2k9
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    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Why would SXF do better from Kerry? That always confuses me.

    Another slap in the face for the Shannon management. Neil Pakey seemed more interested in short term unsustainable growth than anything and left before it started to fail.

    It's really hard to judge what might be going on. Could tour operator deal be in play.

    The KIR schedule is rubbish Thur/Sat.


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    #3707
    Masala
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    It's really hard to judge what might be going on. Could tour operator deal be in play.

    The KIR schedule is rubbish Thur/Sat.

    Where are you finding that schedule??? What are the departure times


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    #3708
    Jamie2k9
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    Masala wrote: »
    Where are you finding that schedule??? What are the departure times

    I'm told planned schedule is Thu/Sat ex KIR 17.00, ex SXF 15.00 (subject to change)


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    #3709
    JCX BXC
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    It's really hard to judge what might be going on. Could tour operator deal be in play.

    The KIR schedule is rubbish Thur/Sat.

    That's true. Will be interesting to see in the long run though.

    Will the aircraft used for Berlin just stay on the ground for that route now too? Utalisation of the two based aircraft is shocking during the Winter, on Tuesdays (and Wednesdays for a few weeks) one is parked up all day long and the other does very little.


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    #3710
    Masala
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    I'm told planned schedule is Thu/Sat ex KIR 17.00, ex SXF 15.00 (subject to change)

    Jeez... You won't get a proper 2 night break on that schedule.!! Gonna be hard to sell that schedule on the ground in Kerry!! Or even Berlin for that matter


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    #3711
    JCX BXC
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    Masala wrote: »
    Jeez... You won't get a proper 2 night break on that schedule.!! Gonna be hard to sell that schedule on the ground in Kerry!! Or even Berlin for that matter

    It's not much worse than the TUE/SAT schedule that Shannon will have in a few weeks, killing the route off.


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    #3712
    Brennans Row
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    Kuwait Airways to provide daily direct flights to New York (Kuwait News Agency)

    Kuwait Airways announced scheduling a daily flight to New York on the sidelines of launching its new Boeing 777-300ER aircrafts.

    The number of passengers flying to New York through Kuwait Airways has increased prominently last year, said the company in a statement on Saturday.

    The company's market share of flights to North America was recorded at 20 percent, it added.

    Meanwhile, it said the New York flights will not include transits in Shannon Airport in Ireland, adding that the company aims to provide direct flights only.

    It was good while it lasted.


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    #3713
    Masala
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    I'm told planned schedule is Thu/Sat ex KIR 17.00, ex SXF 15.00 (subject to change)

    chapeau off to u Jamie boy..... Your sources are good!!


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    #3714
    Brennans Row
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    Masala wrote: »
    Jeez... You won't get a proper 2 night break on that schedule.!! Gonna be hard to sell that schedule on the ground in Kerry!! Or even Berlin for that matter
    JCX BXC wrote: »
    It's not much worse than the TUE/SAT schedule that Shannon will have in a few weeks, killing the route off.

    The Saturday flights would suit the Germans holidaying here from April to October.

    Could an airport share for a long weekend break be workable for some people?
    • Thursday flight Kerry-Berlin
    • Tuesday flight Berlin-Shannon


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    #3715
    JCX BXC
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    The Saturday flights would suit the Germans holidaying here from April to October.

    Could an airport share for a long weekend break be workable for some people?
    • Thursday flight Kerry-Berlin
    • Tuesday flight Berlin-Shannon

    When SXF was loaded for winter it reverted back to MON/FRI.

    Lufthansa will operates SNN-FRA on Saturdays.


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    #3716
    Brennans Row
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    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Lufthansa will operates SNN-FRA on Saturdays.

    I don’t follow you there.

    I thought we were comparing the flight schedules to Berlin from Shannon and Kerry.

    Frankfurt is a 5-6 hour drive from Berlin.


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    #3717
    JCX BXC
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    I don’t follow you there.

    I thought we were comparing the flight schedules to Berlin from Shannon and Kerry.

    Frankfurt is a 5-6 hour drive from Berlin.

    You were talking about the Saturdays being good for German tourists, Frankfurt is in Germany isn't it?

    My point was unrelated to Berlin.


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    #3718
    Brennans Row
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    JCX BXC wrote: »
    My point was unrelated to Berlin.
    That is what I meant. :)


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    #3719
    JCX BXC
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    Brennans Row wrote: »
    That is what I meant. :)

    I know that is what you meant ;)


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    #3720
    Brennans Row
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    U.S. to Europe for $100? Enter the Battle of the Atlantic Airlines (The Daily Beast)

    Food for thought.


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    #3721
    tv221
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    Two early morning diversions, ambulance's passed me, so I assume medical. Departed as follows:
    06:15 AB7409 Dusseldorf (DUS) Air Berlin A332 D-ALPC Departed 06:14
    07:37 OS72 Vienna (VIE) Austrian Airlines B763 OE-LAX Departed 07:37


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