Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

RocketRaccoon

JCX BXC wrote: »

However, this does not mean new routes for Shannon, imo they'll simply swap the Malaga/Faro rotations onto the A320-200 that will be freed, and allow the cork aircraft to remain in cork.

I'd love to be surprised though, something like an Amsterdam or Paris flight would work schedule wise, it's just actually having a sufficient market to run the flight

EI have zero interest in adding new routes from Shannon, unless of course they remove one first.

lockman

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

EI have zero interest in adding new routes from Shannon, unless of course they remove one first.

Aer Lingus are a business: if they thought they could make a substantial profit on a new route(s), no doubt they would try. They, and other airlines, face a few challenges out of Shannon: the presence of Ryanair at the airport, the seasonal nature of business at Shannon, and the limited market.

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Nordic Aviation Capital orders 125 new planes from Airbus and ATR for $4 billion (RTE)

Limerick-based Nordic Aviation Capital (NAC) has announced it will invest further in the city as it expands its new office space at Gardens International to encompass the entire development.

NAC currently employs 80 people in Ireland and 220 people globally with offices in Denmark, US, Singapore and Hong Kong.

Its customers include British Airways, Air Canada, Air France, Lufthansa, LOT Polish Airlines, Alitalia and Dublin-based Stobart Air, which operates Aer Lingus Regional services among others.

ASL orders 737 Freighters from Boeing (Clare Herald)

A Dublin-based aviation group has signed has signed a Memorandum of Understanding with aircraft manufacturer Boeing for the purchase of twenty (20) 737-800 Boeing Converted Freighters (BCF).

The agreement between ASL and Boeing includes 10 firm orders and 10 purchase rights. The deal was announced at the Paris Air Show this week.

ASL Airlines Ireland, part of the ASL Aviation Holdings DAC, operates cargo services from Shannon to the UK and Europe as well as flying scheduled passenger operations on behalf of Aer Lingus to New York and Boston.

ASL also operates a Hangar in Shannon too.

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The new International Aerospace Coatings (IAC) hangar is taking shape.

Photos from Sparky.

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The CSO statistics for February are out.

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Aer Lingus apologises to stranded passengers (Clare Herald)

Aer Lingus has apologised to passengers who were left behind in Boston at the weekend after their plane was forced to take off and fly to Shannon without them.

It’s understood the flight EI-134 did not have the legally required number of flight attendants to operate the service after one crew member fell ill prior to departure.

Flights from Shannon were cancelled on four occasions in March and again in June this year while in 2018, flights from Shannon to New York and Boston, and their return legs, were cancelled up to 20 times resulting in hundreds of passenger being inconvenienced.

The carrier has been strongly criticised in the past for prioritising the needs of Dublin passengers at the expense of its Shannon customers while Aer Lingus’ commitment to Shannon Airport has been repeatedly questioned.

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Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836||||||||
Change|-4.2%|-9.4%|-3.5%|-8.3%|+0.4%||||||||

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The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for May are out.

Bristol is also now available for April because the first publication omitted them.

JCX BXC

Bristol isn't withdrawn, it ran this may. Perhaps numbers aren't published yet?

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Lufthansa Technik Temporary Hangar Structure (Tobin Engineers)

Faced with an unprecedented and indeed technical dilemma of sorts at Shannon Airport, Lufthansa Technik Shannon Ltd. approached TOBIN Consulting Engineers to find a way of accommodating a Boeing 787-8 at their maintenance base. The problem we faced here was predominantly with the sheer size of this particular Boeing in relation to the size of the existing hangar at the airport. To put it into context, this particular aircraft (which has a starting price of about $239 million) measures some 60m in length, has a wing span of about 60m and has a tail height in the region of 17m.

The issue for Lufthansa was that their existing hangar in Shannon would simply not be big enough to accommodate this scale of an aircraft. Our solution to the problem here at TOBIN centred on the adaptation and reconfiguration of the existing hangar by adding a temporary and movable structure for housing the 787-8. A permanent fixture was not an option here due to the operations of the existing and adjacent hangars. The movable solution also needed to be quick to move, safe and weather tight when connected.

When required, this structure will be towed into position by an aircraft tug and when not in use will be secured to an apron slab in a parked position.

hobie14

Breakingnews.ie reporting Jp McManus jet made emergency landing in Shannon this evening ..... all safe and well ....

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hobie14 wrote: »

Breakingnews.ie reporting Jp McManus jet made emergency landing in Shannon this evening ..... all safe and well ....

JP McManus jet in emergency landing at Shannon (Clare Herald)

There were five people on board the Gulfstream G650 jet including, it’s understood, Mr McManus himself.

The crew declared an emergency over the Irish Sea and turned around before they were due to enter UK airspace. The flight had only left Shannon a short time earlier.

The crew confirmed they had suffered an engine failure and declared a May-Day emergency.

hobie14

AF32 ..... B777 .... Ory to Jfk ....seems to be diverting to Snn ... on the way in now?

hobie14

hobie14 wrote: »

AF32 ..... B777 .... Ory to Jfk ....seems to be diverting to Snn ... on the way in now?

Medical emergency ..... bless you Irish Mirror .....☺

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hobie14 wrote: »

hobie14 wrote: »

AF32 ..... B777 .... Ory to Jfk ....seems to be diverting to Snn ... on the way in now?

Medical emergency ..... bless you Irish Mirror .....☺

. . . or Pat Flynn at the Clare Herald.

Jet diverts to Shannon with ill passenger (Clare Herald)

Air France flight AF-032 was about two hours into its journey from Paris to New York when the crew declared an emergency over the North Atlantic and turned around.

Man arrested after flight diverts to Shannon (Clare Herald) 20.06.2019

Lufthansa flight LH-412 was travelling from Munich, Germany to Newark, New Jersey and had just crossed the Irish coastline over Co Galway when the flight crew contacted air traffic controllers to report they had an “abusive passenger” on board.

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Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

|Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836|1,951|||||||
Change|-4.2%|-9.4%|-3.5%|-8.3%|+0.4%|-7.0%|||||||

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The CSO statistics for March are out.

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The IAA and Aireon launch Aireon Alert (IAA)

Irish Team Operates World’s First Global Emergency Aircraft Locating Service

The Irish Aviation Authority will operate the world’s first ever global Aircraft Location and Emergency Response Tracking service, Aireon ALERT from its North Atlantic Communications Centre in Ballygirreen, Co. Clare

Aireon ALERT technology can identify the last known position of any aircraft globally, provided the aircraft is equipped with Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast

Previously only 30% of the Earth’s surface was monitored. With Aireon ALERT the exact location of aircraft in distress or experiencing loss in communication can be found

This service is free, but all users must register to avail of the 24/7 operations facility.

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1148709663040561153

lisasimpson

Walking around limerick was thinking would there be a market for long haul east bound from shannon to the UAE. There is a noticeable population from the India etc living in the mid west not just working in our health services but in IT and finance. Plus it's popular holiday destination and stopover/hub for Irish travelling to and from Australia etc and we have a large Irish community working in the UAE..
A bit of creative thinking is needed for shannon airport such an under utilised facility we have

mdmix

lisasimpson wrote: »

Walking around limerick was thinking would there be a market for long haul east bound from shannon to the UAE. There is a noticeable population from the India etc living in the mid west not just working in our health services but in IT and finance. Plus it's popular holiday destination and stopover/hub for Irish travelling to and from Australia etc and we have a large Irish community working in the UAE..
A bit of creative thinking is needed for shannon airport such an under utilised facility we have

If Shannon could position itself as the main airport for he west/southwest of Ireland then you could see all sorts of route options open up. Unfortunately limerick/Clare does not have the population to support these kinds of routes.

It’s a shame, because there is massive demand from the 3 universities in the west who now have thousands of students from the middle/Far East. These are generally wealthy students who’s family/friends will come visit during the year also.

I think the Boeing issue really highlighted what people outside the region think of Shannon. The line thrown around by cork media and politicians is that now the cork to Boston flight is suspended “the only option is to fly from Dublin”. I listened to many commentators and read articles and comments and this line was bandied around by many, with no one, not even radio hosts (in the interest of fairness and balance) even acknowledging that there are flights from Shannon to the us, not to mind suggesting it as an alternative.

The fact that Shannon is one of 2 airports in the republic with transatlantic flights and that it does not aggressively market this a bit of a concern. The bit of marketing they do on their routes is fairly poor, advertising the routes as a destination only and not highlighting the fact that each airline uses hubs that can connect you to most of North America and some of central and South America too. Has anyone really gone on holidays to Philadelphia? Probably not many, but the airport social media are trying to sell it as a destination with no mention of the Beni fits of using it to connect onwards. One thing the airport marketing team could do is interview passengers about where they connected to (or Florida, Mexico etc.) and create a testimonial/ blog about this to be shared on social media.

Unfortunately going by the declining numbers from Shannon and the considerable rising numbers from all other Irish airports, I dont see any prospect of Shannon being considered anything more than a regional airport for limerick/Clare.

hobie14

Condos 757 on the way in ...... FRA ....YHZ ......DE2414 .....

golfball37

lisasimpson wrote: »

Walking around limerick was thinking would there be a market for long haul east bound from shannon to the UAE. There is a noticeable population from the India etc living in the mid west not just working in our health services but in IT and finance. Plus it's popular holiday destination and stopover/hub for Irish travelling to and from Australia etc and we have a large Irish community working in the UAE..
A bit of creative thinking is needed for shannon airport such an under utilised facility we have

There’s 3 Qatar air planes parked in Shannon at all times lately. What they doing I wonder?

Cookiemunster

golfball37 wrote: »

There’s 3 Qatar air planes parked in Shannon at all times lately. What they doing I wonder?

The could be off lease and returned to the lessor or they could be in for maintenance.

lisasimpson

Agreed mdmix the routes that Shannon serves transatlantic are never promoted as hubs for other parts of the US or south America. The catchment area one is a bit of an easy excuse in my opinion. Shannon airport is a lot closer now to a bigger area due to the motorway network and both limerick and galway are growing cities. And a lot easier and less stressful that getting to Dublin airport and the traffic in Dublin airport. A few lessons could be taken from Cork and how they turned things around. Shannon has the advantage of a longer airport. The airport was unfortunate with the max issues but there is a lot of other areas for improvement and that they could do better on

OfTheMarsWongs

Have only seen one ‘drive on the left hand side’ billboard up this summer (may be others I haven’t seen). It’s near the airport entrance but is on the wrong side of the billboard. Only visible driving INTO the airport.

Phileas Frog

OfTheMarsWongs wrote: »

Have only seen one ‘drive on the left hand side’ billboard up this summer (may be others I haven’t seen). It’s near the airport entrance but is on the wrong side of the billboard. Only visible driving INTO the airport.

It's better than the one that used to be on the way out of Cork Airport, it told the French to drive on the right.

Balf

mdmix wrote: »

The fact that Shannon is one of 2 airports in the republic with transatlantic flights and that it does not aggressively market this a bit of a concern.

In fairness, I'd find it hard to believe that people wouldn't be aware that they can fly to the US from Shannon.

I'd find it similarly hard to believe that's there's an untapped market, that hasn't been reached by decades of promoting the Shannon brand.

hobie14

BA 2201 ....B777 ... LGW - CUN ....Diverting and on the way in now.....

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hobie14 wrote: »

Condos 757 on the way in ...... FRA ....YHZ ......DE2414 .....

I wonder what was behind this diversion?

hobie14 wrote: »

BA 2201 ....B777 ... LGW - CUN ....Diverting and on the way in now.....

Flight attendants assessed by paramedics after plane makes emergency landing at Shannon (Breaking News)

A number of people have been assessed by paramedics at Shannon Airport after their flight made an emergency landing this afternoon.

British Airways flight BA-2201 was flying from Gatwick Airport in England to Cancun in Mexico when the crew made a U-turn over the Atlantic and diverted to the mid-west airport.

There were 237 passengers and a crew of 13 onboard the Boeing 777-200 jet.
The flight crew reported they had detected fumes in the cockpit and passenger cabin and that a number of persons on board appeared to have been affected and would require to be checked by paramedics on arrival.

After it was confirmed their flight had been cancelled, the passengers were transported by bus to hotels in Clare and Limerick. It’s expected that a replacement aircraft will be flown to Shannon tomorrow to take the passengers onto their destination.

Washington-bound flight dumps tonnes of fuel before diverting to Dublin Airport after medical emergency on-board (Dublin Live)

A US-bound passenger jet had to dump tonnes of aviation before it could safely land at Dublin Airport today after the flight turned around over the Atlantic.

Qatar Airways flight QR-707 was just about 200 kilometres off the Clare coast when crew advised air traffic controllers that they couldn’t continue their journey and needed to divert to Shannon Airport to seek medical attention for a passenger.

Fire and rescue crews at Shannon had been placed on standby while the National Ambulance Service was also alerted, however, soon after declaring a medical emergency the flight crew decided to divert to Dublin Airport instead.

It’s understood the crew had been in contact with the airline’s operations centre and were instructed to divert to Dublin.

Balf

Brennans Row wrote: »

It’s understood the crew had been in contact with the airline’s operations centre and were instructed to divert to Dublin.

I would have thought this was a call for the crew to make.