Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

Cosmo Kramer

I'd imagine the needs of Irish aviation in terms of passenger travel can easily be served fully from Dublin for the rest of this year.

Other than maybe a skeleton UK and mainland Europe service later in the year the regional airports will just need to write 2020 off and hope that we're in a better place for the start of the 2021 summer season. No guarantee that we will be though.

JCX BXC

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

I'd imagine the needs of Irish aviation in terms of passenger travel can easily be served fully from Dublin for the rest of this year.

Other than maybe a skeleton UK and mainland Europe service later in the year the regional airports will just need to write 2020 off and hope that we're in a better place for the start of the 2021 summer season. No guarantee that we will be though.

Dublin can write off 2020 too, yes Dublin will have a larger amount of passengers than Shannon, that goes without saying, but all airports will be hit horrifically by this.

You're not saying anything that's not perfectly clear already.

highlydebased

This is a disastrous year for aviation globally, not sure we need to roll out usual provincial tropes!

Considering enforced 2 week quarantine for all arrivals in the UK about to come into force - not sure there will be any market for UK travel generally until this is lifted.

I've booked LHR-SNN return for start of July. Lets see if I actually get to travel...!

JamesBond2010

highlydebased wrote: »

This is a disastrous year for aviation globally, not sure we need to roll out usual provincial tropes!

Considering enforced 2 week quarantine for all arrivals in the UK about to come into force - not sure there will be any market for UK travel generally until this is lifted.

I've booked LHR-SNN return for start of July. Lets see if I actually get to travel...!

07.30 flight

easypazz

highlydebased wrote: »

This is a disastrous year for aviation globally, not sure we need to roll out usual provincial tropes!

Considering enforced 2 week quarantine for all arrivals in the UK about to come into force - not sure there will be any market for UK travel generally until this is lifted.

I've booked LHR-SNN return for start of July. Lets see if I actually get to travel...!

I doubt that will affect the common travel area.

Brennans Row

Magma Cargo 747 aircraft in for painting at IAC's new hangar. :cool:

Brennans Row

There is a partial release of the UK Statistics for March.

Heathrow (-57%)
Birmingham (-60%)
Edinburgh (-74%)
Manchester (-55%)

Brennans Row

The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for March are out.

JamesBond2010

Brennans Row wrote: »

The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for March are out.

April's are going to be brilliant :D:p .The place will never change when you have incompodent management running the place.

Masala

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

April's are going to be brilliant :D:p .The place will never change when you have incompodent management running the place.

April is gonna be -98%... but you can't blame Management for that!

RocketRaccoon

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

April's are going to be brilliant :D:p .The place will never change when you have incompodent management running the place.

Are you trying to blame the management for the figures being down in March and April?

JamesBond2010

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Are you trying to blame the management for the figures being down in March and April?

No I am not
Overall Forget about covid for min. It would be quiet summer anyway. The management were doing very little to attract & improve flight destinations.& the other lads in know here would tell you that as well. The only time you see them is when there is photoshoots & then they are gone again never to be seen.

Brennans Row

Profits soar at Shannon Airport parent in spite of reduced air traffic (Irish Times)

Post-tax profits at Shannon Group, which operates Shannon Airport, rose 43 per cent to €21.6 million last year despite the first reduction in passenger numbers at the airport in six years.

Its annual report shows turnover at the group, an umbrella organisation for separate companies including Shannon Airport Authority, Shannon Heritage, Shannon Commercial Properties and the International Aviation Services Centre, rose by 1.7 per cent to €79.1 million.

The increase in profit was largely due to the impact of an exceptional charge of €5.8 million relating to a group-wide voluntary severance scheme in 2018.

Shannon Group chair Rose Hynes said the figures represented “a positive result in what was a challenging year for aviation and tourism in the regions”.

However, she acknowledged an 8 per cent decline in passenger numbers to 1.71 million in 2019 was “disappointing.” It was the first annual falloff in numbers at Shannon since 2013, with 150,000 fewer travellers than in 2018.

Ms Hynes attributed the decrease largely to the global grounding of the Boeing 737 Max jet on safety grounds.

She said Shannon Group had redoubled its efforts to secure additional services, and had announced three new routes to Paris Charles de Gaulle, Vienna and Barcelona at the end of the year, although their launch has been postponed due to coronavirus .

On the impact of the Covid-19 crisis, Ms Hynes said: “We are determined to reconnect our airport and the west of Ireland to global destinations as soon as possible.”

She said the group also has ambitious plans for the next phase of development at the Shannon Free Zone, to include the construction of new advanced technology manufacturing units and an office block at the main entrance to the zone.

Transatlantic services

Shannon Group’s chief executive Mary Considine described 2019 as “a turbulent year for the aviation sector”, and said the grounding of Boeing 737 Max jets had resulted in the loss of 3 transatlantic services with Norwegian and Canada Air.

She said investment in the group’s property portfolio had reaped dividends, with occupancy rates now at 98 per cent in the Shannon Free Zone.

The annual report shows that visitor numbers at attractions operated by Shannon Heritage, which include Bunratty Castle and Folk Park, King John’s Castle in Limerick, Malahide Castle and the GPO Witness History Centre in Dublin, rose by 4 per cent to 963,000.

It also secured the contract to operate the new Casino Model Railway Museum in Malahide, Co Dublin.

Shannon Group spent €31 million on capital projects last year which included the first wide-body aircraft hangar in Ireland in almost 20 years.

Stanford

A very different story for 2020..!!

golfball37

The Shannon development property portfolio and high rents they bring in is paying for the other 2 ailing businesses. The Shannon Group will not be a success whilst this reliance continues

Brennans Row

DTTAS Quarterly Aviation Statistics

JamesBond2010

Brennans Row wrote: »

DTTAS Quarterly Aviation Statistics

Would have been more Cargo for April & this month May but they refused it & it went to Dublin

Brennans Row

JamesBond2010 wrote: »

Would have been more Cargo for April & this month May but they refused it & it went to Dublin

UPS, FedEx, DHL, Turkish Airlines Cargo?

Could you elaborate as to who, why and what cargo service was refused?

SNNUS

If they wanted to arrive or depart 2200-0600 then they would have used DUB as other flights have.

Brennans Row

SNNUS wrote: »

If they wanted to arrive or depart 2200-0600 then they would have used DUB as other flights have.

But according to the airports website, it has a 24 hour unrestricted operation for cargo.

SNNUS

Brennans Row wrote: »

But according to the airports website, it has a 24 hour unrestricted operation for cargo.

No the airport is temporarily closed 2200-0600 at the moment, only search and rescue mission can use the airfield at that time.

Tiernster7

Clare FM reporting Shannon airport is one of the airports Ryanair will return to in July. Hopefully they are right, unsure what take up will be like..

Could social distancing help a large airport like Shannon as there is the capacity to implement SD, while in Dublin that may not be the case due to the number of airlines they will need to service.

JamesBond2010

Tiernster7 wrote: »

Clare FM reporting Shannon airport is one of the airports Ryanair will return to in July. Hopefully they are right, unsure what take up will be like..

Could social distancing help a large airport like Shannon as there is the capacity to implement SD, while in Dublin that may not be the case due to the number of airlines they will need to service.

Nothing is set in concrete yet. its all hope.

Berty

I did see their post and the Video Ryanair released. Everything seems like a fair approach except in the Video they say "Choose Priority and 2 bags where possible". I'm just wonderin why. What benefit does that have to the person other than the financial benefit to Ryanair.

If Ryanair want to use Shannon Airport as an example then we'd have to see what Shannon airport plan to do to get people travelling through their airport as well.

JamesBond2010

Berty wrote: »

I did see their post and the Video Ryanair released. Everything seems like a fair approach except in the Video they say "Choose Priority and 2 bags where possible". I'm just wonderin why. What benefit does that have to the person other than the financial benefit to Ryanair.

If Ryanair want to use Shannon Airport as an example then we'd have to see what Shannon airport plan to do to get people travelling through their airport as well.

Watch this sure
https://beat102103.com/news/canary-islands-hope-to-resume-flights-in-july/?fbclid=IwAR3DpCWT1cj4C0q9LUYrB2BsRCfJsFJ6cvdkkPiR084muEXq-d_rCSIozZY
its all hope, its like saying i hope to win the euromillions.

Brennans Row

Tiernster7 wrote: »

Could social distancing help a large airport like Shannon as there is the capacity to implement SD, while in Dublin that may not be the case due to the number of airlines they will need to service.

Very good point and definitely a strategy that the airport's management should exploit.

But however spacious the terminal may be, it is the aircraft itself that remains the Achilles heel, as social distancing especially on a transatlantic flight just cannot work.

Covid-19 remains the big unknown, as I fear the drastic consequences for all of the aviation enterprises based in Shannon.

Cookiemunster

Tiernster7 wrote: »

Clare FM reporting Shannon airport is one of the airports Ryanair will return to in July. Hopefully they are right, unsure what take up will be like..

Could social distancing help a large airport like Shannon as there is the capacity to implement SD, while in Dublin that may not be the case due to the number of airlines they will need to service.

If you've flown Ryanair from Shannon you'll know that any possibility of social distancing goes out the window once you go down the stairs to the very cramped boarding gate area.
There's also the issue of incoming passengers queuing at passport control and at the luggage carousels

It's all well and good having a large terminal, but the airside pinch points still exist.

RocketRaccoon

And all of this will be impossible to do in the 25 minutes that Ryanair allow for a turnaround.

JCX BXC

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

And all of this will be impossible to do in the 25 minutes that Ryanair allow for a turnaround.

To be fair, the fact that they're not operating a full schedule should help them prolong the turnaround times. The flight times are so padded anyway you could double that 25 minutes and still arrive on time.

Extremely optimistic to expect to operate a 70% schedule though.

kilburn

I know easy jet are proposing removing middle seats but its not possible to social distance on a commercial aircraft.