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  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭ctlsleh


    Stanford wrote: »
    FYI Shannon Development was abolished in 2013, responsibility for foreign direct investment in the Shannon Region has rested with IDA since then

    Understood, I might have got the name wrong, the point still stands though.
    I’m not trying to be negative, just exploring why we see so little, or maybe I’ve got that wrong, investment in this region considering the resources which would seem to make a lot more sense vs Galway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭ctlsleh


    tv221 wrote: »
    Shannon Dev were doing a horrible job before becoming Shannon commercial properties, and a part of the Shannon group. And even that was because they had limited funding and were essentially competing against the IDA as always.

    They had/have so much antiquated property to deal with it was almost an impossible task. A task which they've handled as well as it could be.

    Working in Shannon and watching the transformation they've currently undertaken has been impressive. In a few weeks when Blocks K & L are finished and let to some decent Employers like Meira GTx it's another step in the right direction.

    25 more software jobs announced at exida last week is not to be sneezed at. The renovation of a new cafe shop at the entrance to open soon. Another new Hi tech manufacturing unit across the road from that. Throw in the new 4 floor office building planning went in for last week adjacent Rineana House.

    When all done driving through the estate will be a completely different experience to that of 5 years ago. And the platform needed to progress further. If anyone deserve a kicking when it comes to Shannon it's Clare County Council.

    That's right Clare Co Co whom collect millions in rates and put a fraction back. While they year on year snear at Shannon not understanding why all development isn't going to Ennis. They're prepared to borrow money to put up one of the countries biggest sheds to house an ugly data center that will be a blight on Ennis. But do nothing for Shannon, thus answering a lot of your questions. Why is/isn't Shannon ...? If they worked harder on Shannon, more jobs would've been created

    Appreciate the background. Again, maybe I’m way off the mark, I just feel the region has a lot more to offer.
    Would it not make more sense to hand over the reigns including the property portfolio to the IDA and let them do what they do best?
    Seems we could do so much better. I’ll leave it at that, I’ve had my vent now.
    Thanks for listening!


  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mdmix


    ctlsleh wrote: »
    Appreciate the background. Again, maybe I’m way off the mark, I just feel the region has a lot more to offer.
    Would it not make more sense to hand over the reigns including the property portfolio to the IDA and let them do what they do best?
    Seems we could do so much better. I’ll leave it at that, I’ve had my vent now.
    Thanks for listening!

    The old Shannon Dev were a let down and it did not make sense to have a regional authority competing against a national one. Shannon properties seem to be doing a good job, it probably benefits the region to have 2 authorities working together. Also, if Shannon properties had un-let office space pressure would mount on the IDA to fill it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭VillageIdiot71


    ctlsleh wrote: »
    I’m not trying to be negative, just exploring why we see so little, or maybe I’ve got that wrong, investment in this region considering the resources which would seem to make a lot more sense vs Galway.
    I'm sure Shannon has positive features, but why would Galway be an unattractive location? If we take it that immediate proximity to an airport isn't a big deal to them, they can presumably sell the place as an attractive location with a pool of locally trained talent and a place where highly skilled people would be happy to live.

    Is it fair to say, Shannon itself can't offer that. It's not a city. It's close enough to a city, but its main selling point was really the special tax designation and the airport.

    The tax designation doesn't exist anymore, because of EU rules, so even the aviation sector tax concessions can be availed of no matter where an enterprise locates.

    That leaves proximity to the airport, which is presumably a strong factor for some enterprises, but not for all. Making the airport the center of the regional development strategy probably brought some advantages, but disadvantages, too, as you don't have the benefits that come with setting up in a city like Limerick, or even a town like Ennis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭Tiernster7


    Saying it again jobs in wider mid west area will ultimately benefit the airport.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

    |Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
    2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
    2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
    2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
    2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
    2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836|1,951|1,976|1,843|1,974|1,738|1,254|1,191|18,833
    2020|1,221|1,179|691|261|238|322|850|725|557|557|||
    Change|-2.0%|+8.5%|-47.7%|-81.9%|-87.0%|-83.5%|-67.2%|-60.7%|-71.4%|-68.0%|||


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Covid-19 Government Supports (Limerick Post)

    The Department of Transport will provide further operational and capital funding supports of €22m for Cork and Shannon Airport, which is in addition to the €10m in capital funding announced in Budget 2021.

    For the smaller regional airports of Knock, Kerry and Donegal, in addition to the €21m in funding available under the Regional Airports Programme for 2021, further operational support of €6m will be made available.

    The funding package will also include an Airport Charges Rebate Scheme for January to March 2021, subject to State Aid approval from the EU Commission. This is one of the recommendations made by the Task Force for Aviation Recovery and, at an estimated cost of €20m, will support the retention of core connectivity through the Winter season.

    Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Michael McGrath TD: “It is also important from the point of view of balanced regional development. The Government decision today will mean an extra €13.7 million for Cork Airport, an extra €8.4 million for Shannon Airport and a further €6 million shared between Ireland West Airport Knock, Kerry and Donegal Airports.

    “The €20 million allocated to the Airports Charges Rebate Scheme will have a positive impact on all airports in the country.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭Masala


    Covid-19 Government Supports (Limerick Post)

    The Department of Transport will provide further operational and capital funding supports of €22m for Cork and Shannon Airport, which is in addition to the €10m in capital funding announced in Budget 2021.

    For the smaller regional airports of Knock, Kerry and Donegal, in addition to the €21m in funding available under the Regional Airports Programme for 2021, further operational support of €6m will be made available.

    The funding package will also include an Airport Charges Rebate Scheme for January to March 2021, subject to State Aid approval from the EU Commission. This is one of the recommendations made by the Task Force for Aviation Recovery and, at an estimated cost of €20m, will support the retention of core connectivity through the Winter season.

    Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform, Michael McGrath TD: “It is also important from the point of view of balanced regional development. The Government decision today will mean an extra €13.7 million for Cork Airport, an extra €8.4 million for Shannon Airport and a further €6 million shared between Ireland West Airport Knock, Kerry and Donegal Airports.

    “The €20 million allocated to the Airports Charges Rebate Scheme will have a positive impact on all airports in the country.”

    And €10m given to Shannon an€ Cork earlier in the Budget bring the total to €32m. Depending on the €10m split.... €16m each is nothing to be sneezed at.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Covid-19 testing centres open at Cork, Shannon Airports (RTE)

    Yesterday, Minister of State for European Affairs Thomas Byrne said rules will change for those travelling to Ireland from a 'red' region after 29 November, according to the new EU traffic light travel system.

    He said passengers who receive a negative PCR Covid-19 test five days after arriving here will no longer have to restrict their movements.
    Will that coax Ryanair back in December?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Will that coax Ryanair back in December?

    Right now Sean Defoe on Twitter is saying that Cork can only handle up to 150 per day right now so Shannon(same private company) should be the same. Might be up to 300 per day by the end of the year.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Will that coax Ryanair back in December?

    They're already coming back in December. January is going to be the issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,149 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Saw a clip of Kevin Cullinane in Cork Airport talking about RocDoc on their airport. It just sounds like the lower price is a result in 24-48 hours and the Express is within a few hours. Seems the way he reported it that you don't necessarily need to be travelling to avail of it, book with Rocdoc and drive up.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1326842445133471746


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    IAC - Wide Body Paint Hangar.

    50601439638_f07b88025b_c.jpg

    A Qatar Airways B777-300 gets its livery for the 2022 FIFA World Cup (image Leah O'Carroll).

    A second Qatar Airways arrives for painting, this time an A350-941.

    Could be a lot of work coming IAC's way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Avoation1091


    Does anyone know if EI will return to SNN before March?

    It looked like last week that SNN would have 2 NEO next summer-no A320. The A320 is scheduled for SNN LHR again according to the website. It was SNN based NEO for 380 and the latter flights by DUB crew. This is also the plan according to another poster. The EI website could be updated again this week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭JamesBond2010


    Does anyone know if EI will return to SNN before March?

    It looked like last week that SNN would have 2 NEO next summer-no A320. The A320 is scheduled for SNN LHR again according to the website. It was SNN based NEO for 380 and the latter flights by DUB crew. This is also the plan according to another poster. The EI website could be updated again this week.


    U wouldnt know with Aer Lingus. supposed to be back in March


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    I'll be shocked to see a scheduled aer lingus flight from Shannon at all in 2021.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Avoation1091


    I'll be shocked to see a scheduled aer lingus flight from Shannon at all in 2021.

    I would hope we would. Also read today as well that Mary considine said they want to return around the same time as FR at the end of March.

    Good to be a bit positive. Feel for the staff who havent flown from SNN since March. Hope they get back in March. Roll out of Vaccines is going to help people get moving again if they want ot Travel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    I'll be shocked to see a scheduled aer lingus flight from Shannon at all in 2021.
    I would hope we would. Also read today as well that Mary considine said they want to return around the same time as FR at the end of March.

    Good to be a bit positive. Feel for the staff who havent flown from SNN since March. Hope they get back in March. Roll out of Vaccines is going to help people get moving again if they want ot Travel.

    Hope they do - OH works for them, hasnt flown since March, they'll be the last to know anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Avoation1091


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Hope they do - OH works for them, hasnt flown since March, they'll be the last to know anyway

    Hope they here good news soon and get current again since they are out of Recency.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

    |Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
    2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
    2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
    2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
    2018|1,301|1,200|1,368|1,575|1,829|2,098|2,104|1,949|2,066|1,858|1,385|1,369|20,102
    2019|1,246|1,087|1,320|1,444|1,836|1,951|1,976|1,843|1,974|1,738|1,254|1,191|18,833
    2020|1,221|1,179|691|261|238|322|850|725|557|557|397||
    Change|-2.0%|+8.5%|-47.7%|-81.9%|-87.0%|-83.5%|-67.2%|-60.7%|-71.4%|-68.0%|-68.3%||


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    FedEx takes delivery of turboprop freighter (Apex Insight)

    As part of long term carbon reduction plans, FedEx Express has announced it has taken delivery of a purpose built ATR turboprop regional air freighter.

    The first of 30 ordered in 2017 and with an option to add 20 more to its global air freighter fleet, the aircraft is to work out of Shannon Airport in Ireland. It is to serve small and medium businesses and e-commerce demands. It is to be operated by FedEx through ASL Airlines in Ireland.

    Around a third of the global regional freighter fleet (130 aircraft) are ATR turboprops, mostly converted from passenger use. The brand new ATR 72-600F is a deliberate step into the air freight market with the company’s success in its converted aircraft.


  • Registered Users Posts: 570 ✭✭✭AnRothar


    Runway lights.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭clintondaly


    1608058979817.jpg--.jpg?1608058979000


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    That's not the actual runway guys.
    https://www.shannonairport.ie/passengers/news-media/latest-news/2020/shannon-airport-launches-festive-campaign/
    Please note: The runway image is an artistic visualisation produced for Shannon Airport as part of a Shannon Airport Christmas campaign.


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    There's actually no lights at all up around the airport. Little cheeky of them, don't you think?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,171 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    MarkR wrote: »
    There's actually no lights at all up around the airport. Little cheeky of them, don't you think?

    No?

    Suppose that's one way to reduce costs.


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    I wonder is it a personnel thing. I know a lot of people are out of work, so maybe the people who would normally be doing that are currently unemployed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Good news expected from the airport today, makes a change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Good news expected from the airport today, makes a change.

    It won't be that LGW is down to MWF days with no possibility of a Friday-Sunday trip! 😟


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,065 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster




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