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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Carnacalla wrote: »

    Also on FR24, there's a lot of planes flying around today with their destination not listed. The summer schedule must be confusing FR24. Eg ACE-SNN and NCE-SNN were listed as ACE-? and NCE-?. Others were working though.

    FR24 has yet to pick up on the new callsigns.


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Average day really, a few minor delays, not more than 30mins. Look a cork then, 2 cancelled FR flights and the Malaga one delayed 5 hours.

    Also on FR24, there's a lot of planes flying around today with their destination not listed. The summer schedule must be confusing FR24. Eg ACE-SNN and NCE-SNN were listed as ACE-? and NCE-?. Others were working though.

    Yeah some really strong winds across the Atlantic as well. Du kind JFk flight landed at like half 3 or something this morning..think SNN flights were really early as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Any update on the winter schedule from Ryanair? Kaunas or Man?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Airbus330 wrote: »
    Any update on the winter schedule from Ryanair? Kaunas or Man?

    Nope, quote annoyingly not. I'd say they are going to announce enhanced winter schedule's for KUN and MAN and then the route to SNN will be uploaded.

    Very busy summer schedule again, great to see it busy after a dull winter schedule. By June the full schedule will.kick in, with flights to Birmingham, Izmir, Zurich, Philadelphia and Chicago yet to kick in as well as Aer Lingus to Faro and Malaga, Delta to New York, Falcons charter flights to Palma, Reus.and Lanzarote.

    Ryanair will also increase the frequency of the Malaga flights (2pw to 4pw), Palma de Mallorca flights (2pw to 3pw) and Lanzarote (1pw to 2pw) during the months of June and July.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    That BA 772 is currently on the way home.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row




    USAF C-5 Galaxy does go around at Shannon Airport (del732007)

    It must have been very windy on Saturday.

    Apparently, this USAF Galaxy brought in spares for another USAF Government aircraft on Saturday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Shannon Group Chairman favours IAG sale (live95fm)

    The chairman of the Shannon Group says she's in favour of the sale of Aer Lingus to IAG.

    The Government's talks with IAG are ongoing, through there are fears in the Midwest region of a loss of the Shannon to Heathrow slots and connectivity, despite assurances to the contrary.

    Rose Hynes says the sale would be good for Shannon.

    **************************************************************

    Unfortunately the radio interview has a wrong link.


  • Registered Users Posts: 785 ✭✭✭cnoc


    Shannon Group Chairman favours IAG sale (live95fm)

    The chairman of the Shannon Group says she's in favour of the sale of Aer Lingus to IAG.

    The Government's talks with IAG are ongoing, through there are fears in the Midwest region of a loss of the Shannon to Heathrow slots and connectivity, despite assurances to the contrary.

    Rose Hynes says the sale would be good for Shannon.

    **************************************************************

    Unfortunately the radio interview has a wrong link.

    Should she be asked to resign from the Group? Did she elaborate as to why the sale would be good for Shannon Airport?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,703 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    cnoc wrote: »
    Should she be asked to resign from the Group? Did she elaborate as to why the sale would be good for Shannon Airport?

    What rubbish, Aer Lingus won't stay at SNN if they deem it un profitable and Government stake will not deter that decision.

    If anything she should be sacked for what happened with EIR;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I wouldn't read into it, Rosa hasn't a clue. (She's a chairwoman of Irish water for god sake). She's of no use to the airport and I'd be surprised if she knew anything more than the airline she uses to take her of her bi-yearly 2 week holidays.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    cnoc wrote: »
    Should she be asked to resign from the Group? Did she elaborate as to why the sale would be good for Shannon Airport?

    Resign? Wow I certainly hope not. This is a woman who sat on the Aer Lingus board for years, she's simply expressing what she thinks would best suit the airline (from a past employee perspective) and for Shannon airport.

    She is a huge asset to Shannon Group, and has done so much since becoming independent of the DAA, it would be a huge loss if she were to leave, though I can't see why she would.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,703 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I wouldn't read into it, Rosa hasn't a clue. (She's a chairwoman of Irish water for god sake). She's of no use to the airport and I'd be surprised if she knew anything more than the airline she uses to take her of her bi-yearly 2 week holidays.

    Wonder if she even uses SNN airport to take her holiday :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Wonder if she even uses SNN airport to take her holiday :)

    I was thinking the same :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Airbus330 wrote: »
    Resign? Wow I certainly hope not. This is a woman who sat on the Aer Lingus board for years, she's simply expressing what she thinks would best suit the airline (from a past employee perspective) and for Shannon airport.

    She is a huge asset to Shannon Group, and has done so much since becoming independent of the DAA, it would be a huge loss if she were to leave, though I can't see why she would.

    I don't see of what use she is? With Shannon's treatment of Aer Lingus and Aer Lingus' treatment to Shannon she obviously has no role. All she does is show her self at announcements and say how much of a good day it is for Shannon.

    May I ask, what does she do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I wouldn't read into it, Rosa hasn't a clue. (She's a chairwoman of Irish water for god sake). She's of no use to the airport and I'd be surprised if she knew anything more than the airline she uses to take her of her bi-yearly 2 week holidays.

    I'd completely disagree. She wasn't the one that decided to impose charges on the public for water..Its a job, and one that she has to do or someone else will.

    Her past experience is a credit to the Shannon Group, (Aer Lingus, GPA, etc) she'd be a huge loss.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I'm not anti-water charges. But Irish water made a complete balls of an already bad situation. Its a job, but I bet Rosa will sit in her padded chair, drink her coffee, agree to everything that is said and accept all her massive bonuses so that the state will never see any meaningful dividend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I don't see of what use she is? With Shannon's treatment of Aer Lingus and Aer Lingus' treatment to Shannon she obviously has no role. All she does is show her self at announcements and say how much of a good day it is for Shannon.

    May I ask, what does she do?

    She has no power over Aer Lingus, their neglect and dire treatment of Shannon has nothing to do with Rose. Have you ever read her task report? She definitely sees the potential. Remember its not just about the airport anymore its about the Shannon Group and the ancillary services that have been implemented under this new Group.

    What would you have expected her to do that she has't done? Not to sound smart but she'll obviously needs to represent the airport in a positive scale and highlight what has been achieved...No good talking about everything negative, especially to the media..I'm sure there is plenty of that behind closed door. I certainly admire her what she's done :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I'm not anti-water charges. But Irish water made a complete balls of an already bad situation. Its a job, but I bet Rosa will sit in her padded chair, drink her coffee, agree to everything that is said and accept all her massive bonuses so that the state will never see any meaningful dividend.

    O I definitely agree with the mess that they have made. But I certainly don't think that it was Rose's fault..That problem came from the idiots that decided to introduce the charges in the first place. Its certainly a learning curve, the advertising that they are doing at the moment has FINALLY explained why these charge have came out, something that should have simply been expressed from the start. But sure look its a learning curve..But its not a water charges debate, we'll leave that for another day. ;)

    I'm just a huge admirer of Rose and would find it hard to think that there is many out there that could do a better job..


  • Registered Users Posts: 785 ✭✭✭cnoc


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I'm not anti-water charges. But Irish water made a complete balls of an already bad situation. Its a job, but I bet Rosa will sit in her padded chair, drink her coffee, agree to everything that is said and accept all her massive bonuses so that the state will never see any meaningful dividend.

    I wonder did she take notes, mental or otherwise, when attending Irish Water meetings!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,022 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Airbus330 wrote: »
    She is a huge asset to Shannon Group, and has done so much since becoming independent of the DAA, it would be a huge loss if she were to leave
    Airbus330 wrote: »
    Her past experience is a credit to the Shannon Group, (Aer Lingus, GPA, etc) she'd be a huge loss.
    Airbus330 wrote: »
    I certainly admire her what she's done :-)
    Airbus330 wrote: »
    I'm just a huge admirer of Rose and would find it hard to think that there is many out there that could do a better job.

    You've praised her in four different posts now but have yet to provide any specific evidence as to what it is that this lady has done so well.
    Airbus330 wrote: »
    What would you have expected her to do that she has't done?

    This kind of response doesn't really add any substance.

    Can you elaborate as to why you are such a big fan of this individual - what exactly are her achievements at Shannon that makes her such an asset to the facility?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter


    what exactly are her achievements at Shannon that makes her such an asset to the facility?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    May I ask are all these articles being horribly incorrect by using the term "chairman"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭Airbus330


    You've praised her in four different posts now but have yet to provide any specific evidence as to what it is that this lady has done so well.



    This kind of response doesn't really add any substance.

    Can you elaborate as to why you are such a big fan of this individual - what exactly are her achievements at Shannon that makes her such an asset to the facility?

    But yet at the same time you've made no reference as to what she has done that says she should be sacked or that she should resign?

    Heres just a few things:

    Part of the team in stopping the continual decline in passenger numbers (each year since independence, negotiating with EI to extend US link year around links (through supporting 757’s) made a deal with Ryanair (weather people like it or not) to bring about new services shortly after independence; contract with Turkish Airlines for cargo (with speculation of passenger services); advanced plans in building a new hangar (worth 10m) demonstrated to the Government the importance of connectivity to the Mid-West, part of the team in achieving global award for marketing excellence and overall airport achievement award, bringing about a profit in the first year as an independent airport, media Merit Award winner...

    I certainly think this a significant change and is evidence of the huge effort that has been put in, not just by her but by the entire management. Did anything of these happen under the DAA control?

    But hey please, tell me how shes not helping?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    The trouble with these airport directors and managers is that we don't see what they do, except in the form of new routes. Improvements to terminal and diversified food and retail options on the way though.

    Looking forward to 5 years of independence to see what they've done at that point


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    I don't see of what use she is? With Shannon's treatment of Aer Lingus and Aer Lingus' treatment to Shannon she obviously has no role. All she does is show her self at announcements and say how much of a good day it is for Shannon.

    May I ask, what does she do?

    In my opinion the future of the Airport is in safe hands.

    Maybe you should re-read this thread gain to realise that things have positively changed under her management team like . . . .

    • Headhunting a new CEO (Neil Pakey – John Lennon Airport)
    • Overseeing the formation of the Shannon Group (Airport, SFZ, IASC, Heritage)
    • Stabilised the passenger numbers in year one.
    • 15% increase in passenger numbers in year two.
    • Introduced ‘Park4Less’ car parking, in order to make the airport more attractive.
    • Upgrading the Duty Free Shop, in order to increase revenues.
    • Signed an eight year hangar lease with Air Contractors.
    • Quintessentially Aviation Handling (Business Jets) opened a new facility.
    • Shannon Free Zone on founding board of World Free Zones Organisation (Dubai)
    • Made submissions to the 'National Aviation Policy for Ireland' (Cargo)
    • Aero-Zone European headquarters in the Shannon Free Zone
    • Made a Pre-tax profit €149,000 in 2013
    • Eirtech expands with multi-million euro deal with Vance Street Capital
    • US Vortex Aviation invest $3m in new Shannon base (aircraft engine servicing facility)
    • UL - Postgraduate Level 9 Specialist Diploma in Aviation Leasing and Finance
    • UL - Bachelor of Technology in Aircraft Maintenance and Operations
    • Hanger office extension for Transaero (Parting out - break up of end-of-life aircraft for recycling)
    • Sport Tourism and Business Tourism promotions in USA, Canada.
    • Aireon Aircraft Locating and Emergency Response Tracking (Aireon ALERT) service will be managed from the (IAA) North Atlantic Communications Centre in Ballygirreen.
    • Shannon Free Zone Master Plan


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    In my opinion the future of the Airport is in safe hands.

    Maybe you should re-read this thread gain to realise that things have positively changed under her management team like . . . .

    • Headhunting a new CEO (Neil Pakey – John Lennon Airport)
    • Overseeing the formation of the Shannon Group (Airport, SFZ, IASC, Heritage)
    • Stabilised the passenger numbers in year one.
    • 15% increase in passenger numbers in year two.
    • Introduced ‘Park4Less’ car parking, in order to make the airport more attractive.
    • Upgrading the Duty Free Shop, in order to increase revenues.
    • Signed an eight year hangar lease with Air Contractors.
    • Quintessentially Aviation Handling (Business Jets) opened a new facility.
    • Shannon Free Zone on founding board of World Free Zones Organisation (Dubai)
    • Made submissions to the 'National Aviation Policy for Ireland' (Cargo)
    • Aero-Zone European headquarters in the Shannon Free Zone
    • Made a Pre-tax profit €149,000 in 2013
    • Eirtech expands with multi-million euro deal with Vance Street Capital
    • US Vortex Aviation invest $3m in new Shannon base (aircraft engine servicing facility)
    • UL - Postgraduate Level 9 Specialist Diploma in Aviation Leasing and Finance
    • UL - Bachelor of Technology in Aircraft Maintenance and Operations
    • Hanger office extension for Transaero (Parting out - break up of end-of-life aircraft for recycling)
    • Sport Tourism and Business Tourism promotions in USA, Canada.
    • Aireon Aircraft Locating and Emergency Response Tracking (Aireon ALERT) service will be managed from the (IAA) North Atlantic Communications Centre in Ballygirreen.
    • Shannon Free Zone Master Plan
    How many of these couldn't have been achieved without Rose Hynes?

    I'm not as faithful in the management as you appear to be either. This year, Cork has 3 new routes. Shannon has 1 new route and 3 lost ones. The losses are big losses, the gains are a 1x weekly summer seasonal to Turkey.

    I do hope they prove me wrong, as Shannon is a great airport with a amazing history. The increasing of the US routes this year are great and so are the small increases of Capacity on some routes. I really think Shannon needs to get its priorities straight. A connection to a Hub is far more important than a tri-weekly route to an airport miles outside a city. Manchester does not substitute 4 UK routes.

    I have faith in few Chairpersons, I think they are overpaid for their workload.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    How many of these couldn't have been achieved without Rose Hynes?

    I'm not as faithful in the management as you appear to be either. This year, Cork has 3 new routes. Shannon has 1 new route and 3 lost ones. The losses are big losses, the gains are a 1x weekly summer seasonal to Turkey.

    I do hope they prove me wrong, as Shannon is a great airport with a amazing history. The increasing of the US routes this year are great and so are the small increases of Capacity on some routes. I really think Shannon needs to get its priorities straight. A connection to a Hub is far more important than a tri-weekly route to an airport miles outside a city. Manchester does not substitute 4 UK routes.

    I have faith in few Chairpersons, I think they are overpaid for their workload.

    Overpaid for sure, but as the saying goes, pay peanuts and get monkeys

    I do think only so much can be done by management. They can influence and pitch to airlines til the cows come home, but after that it's out of their hands. Market forces, competition etc decide the rest. In fairness it was hardly going to be a straightforward situation of overnight success. The aviation industry is filled with challenges and as we know Shannon is far from immune. Things will work out fine in time but challenges will continue to come!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    A 105kph gust was recorded at Shannon Airport on Monday evening and led to an inbound Ryanair flight from Stansted being forced to divert to Dublin. (Clare Herald)


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    A 105kph gust was recorded at Shannon Airport on Monday evening and led to an inbound Ryanair flight from Stansted being forced to divert to Dublin. (Clare Herald)

    When arriving at Dublin, it made a go around there too. (Funnily enough the only aircraft to do so at Dublin all this evening).

    Aircraft returning from Dublin now (on approach into SNN) and will operate the outbound leg soon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,162 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    UA127 (DUB-IAD) diverted to Shannon a few minutes ago, sick passenger.


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