Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

Cosmo Kramer

Am I correct in thinking the larger numbers at Shannon years ago included US troop movements also? They regularly stopped off there and would have been counted as arriving and departing passengers both eastbound and westbound. 10 years ago during the Ryanair Shannon boom, despite the significant level of Ryanair operations, it was common to see more troops than general passengers in the departure lounge.

I would say the similarity of the 2014, 2015 and the likely 2016 numbers suggest that, after the big gains of the 2000s followed by the big fall off a few years ago, passenger numbers have now finally found their natural levels.

JCX BXC

I would really disagree that 1.7mil is their natural levels. There's alot of growth to be had.

One place that Shannon lost out on is connecting pax. When Stobart were around they connected pax through Shannon and it was actually said to be quite popular. With the return of the EDI service we have connecting pax back on the JFK service, but nothing compared to before. I think this should be an area of focus for the airport, rather than the LCC jumping.

Ryanair have probably met their sustainable Shannon medium at the moment, and hopefully they will stick around at their current levels, they seem to jump ship a little slower as of late.

highlydebased

Dec UK numbers

LGW 7707
LHR 18886 (+15%)
STN tbc
MAN 7760
BHX 2514

Total 2015 UK is around 700k. As December STN figure unavailable, I used the Nov figure.

JCX BXC

The Heathrow recovery has really been promising.

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http://utv.ie/News/2016/01/17/Shannon-Airport-sees-5-passenger-increase-in-2015-52344

Jamie2k9

Carnacalla wrote: »

http://utv.ie/News/2016/01/17/Shannon-Airport-sees-5-passenger-increase-in-2015-52344

Wonder if UTV's figures exclude the 368 transit passengers (surly not as it's usually around 100,000 in recent years) or is it excluding private traffic?

Deagol

Anyone know is it normal for the LHR route to run only twice a day at this time of year on certain days?

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Deagol wrote: »

Anyone know is it normal for the LHR route to run only twice a day at this time of year on certain days?

Yep, for JAN and FEB services from SNN, ORK and DUB are reduced due to lack of demand.

Deagol

Thats a nuisance, I fly to ABZ via LHR quite a lot, though usually more often in summer / autumn and the lunch flight is great to get me to ABZ in time for a late dinner. Now I'm going to be there either silly early or too late for dinner

highlydebased

The lunchtime flight is missing on Tuesdays and Wednesdays until Feb 7- another 3 weeks. Fair play to you for flying from Shannon rather than just driving to Dublin too!

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Looks very expensive, what fares would you pay?

Airbus330

http://www.clare.fm/news/6000-extra-seats-shannon-boston-service

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How exactly is that extra? It ran last year didn't it?

irishbloke77

Carnacalla wrote: »

How exactly is that extra? It ran last year didn't it?

I could be wrong, but did it not only run for July and August last year, with June extra thus year?

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irishbloke77 wrote: »

I could be wrong, but did it not only run for July and August last year, with June extra thus year?

Nope running exact same period, ran from June 8th last year.

Deagol

Carnacalla wrote: »

Looks very expensive, what fares would you pay?

Is that question in regards to my post? It's not clear to me

JCX BXC

Deagol wrote: »

Is that question in regards to my post? It's not clear to me

Yeah it is.

Looking at the options of SNN-LHR-ABZ it looks almost too pricey to be true, (could be some sort of site error) so what prices would you pay?

Airbus330

Carnacalla wrote: »

How exactly is that extra? It ran last year didn't it?

I know. Wonder will it be the Omni 767 again?

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Airbus330 wrote: »

I know. Wonder will it be the Omni 767 again?

Yep, on the Aer Lingus site.

Some service improvements as far as I know

Deagol

Carnacalla wrote: »

Yeah it is.

Looking at the options of SNN-LHR-ABZ it looks almost too pricey to be true, (could be some sort of site error) so what prices would you pay?

I used to pay c.1600 euro for a flexible but since the IAG buyout of EI the price has miraculously changed to €710. I haven't found out yet if the terms have changed though, impossible to understand them from the corporate travel site!

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Seems the airport published the rather desperate Press Release of the extra 6000 seats for Summer. In the press release Neil does acknowledge that its returning, but the damage is already done.

We don't need the Shannon Airport PR team taking a Daily Mail approach thank you.

Anyway, besides that the 767 looks to have an improved service this year.

Each flight looks to have
*An Aer Lingus Ambassador
*Improved In-flight entertainment
*30inch seat pitch (A330 seat pitch is "31" to"32")
*Each seat has a USB outlet.
*Far better livery

As posted by highlydebased in another thread, here is a page on the Aer Lingus website with info on it : www.aerlingus.com/travel-information/aer-lingus-news/boeing767-features-benefits/

highlydebased

UA24 cancelled for today and being held over to tomorrow owing to Storm Jonas

Airbus330

highlydebased wrote: »

UA24 cancelled for today and being held over to tomorrow owing to Storm Jonas

I'm in NYC at the moment and fair crazy!! Dosent seem to be anything coming in or out of LaGuardia or JFK either. EI is on route to Bos though

Brennans Row

Transatlantic jet makes emergency landing at Shannon amid bomb threat (independent)

Turkish Airlines flight TK-34 departed Houston, Texas at 9.07pm local time on Saturday (4.07am Irish time Sunday) and was due in Istanbul, Turkey at around 3.45pm Irish time.

There were 227 passengers and crew on board the Boeing 777-300 jet.

It's understood that the crew became aware of the bomb threat after a written note was discovered on board. The crew informed their operations centre who in turn alerted authorities in Ireland.

Units of the local authority fire service from Shannon and Ennis were sent to the airport as back up to the airport's own fire and rescue service. Ambulances from Ennis and Limerick were also mobilised along with Gardaí.

The Irish Coast Guard was also alerted to the incident and placed the RNLI lifeboat based at Kilrush on standby until the flight had safely crossed the west coast.

The crew issued a Pan-Pan distressed call and requested permission to dump fuel over the Atlantic to ensure they touched down within safe landing weight levels.

The flight landed safely at around 11.02am.

Builderfromhell

Thanks for info. Brennans Row. I have to check in for flight to London in about an hour and wondered if there might be any delays due to this incident. I'll contact Aer Lingus

Brennans Row

Gulfstream 4SP XA-PTR
Skyservice Business Aviation Challenger 605 C-FCDE
Ecolab Inc. Challenger 300 N370EL
Aerowest Flugcharter Cessna 680 Citation Sovereign D-CAWX
Adolf Wuerth GmbH Cessna 560XL Citation D-CSEB
Monsanto Co. Falcon 900EX N900YG
Allegiance I LLC. Falcon 2000EX N900CH
JP Morgan Chase Bank Falcon 2000EX N620V

Quite a bit of activity recorded by (Birrlad) in Shannon yesterday.

As always looking for a source of statistics regarding biz jets.

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http://airlineinfo.com/ostpdf95/922.pdf

Asl Airlines France apply for FAOC to operate CDG-SNN-PVD (Providence, Rhode Island).

This would mean the promised Rhode Island route, and ontop of that Paris CDG! (Although probably at something silly like 1pw)

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Shannon received the following diversions from Dublin and Cork today due to strong winds.

EI3801 (BHX-ORK) ATR72-600
UA23 (EWR-DUB) B757-200
AA722 (PHL-DUB) B757-200
EI155 (LHR-DUB) A320-200
EI605 (AMS-DUB) A320-200
FR9429 (BGY-DUB) B737-800
FR1965 (EIN-DUB) B737-800
FR7033 (FAO-DUB) B737-800

8 diversions today.

This day week ago 19/01/16
FR805 (STN-NOC) also diverted to Shannon due to FOG. Never posted due to the site being down.

With LS518, DL194, TK34 and the above, I count 12 diversions so far this year for Shannon.

locum-motion

Out of curiosity:

There have been 89 posts in this forum in the last 3 years headed by or containing the words "Common Diversion Airport".

All but two of them (well, three now!) have been by the same poster.

So can I ask Brennan's Row: What is your obsession with recording every flight that diverts to SNN?

And can I ask other posters: Are you interested in this information?

locum-motion

Out of curiosity:

There have been 89 posts in this forum in the last 3 years headed by or containing the words "Common Diversion Airport".

All but two of them (well, three now!) have been by the same poster.

So can I ask Brennan's Row: What is your obsession with recording every flight that diverts to SNN?

And can I ask other posters: Are you interested in this information?