Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

Dolph Starbeam

Now Wilshere. What in the name of god is it with Arsenal and injuries.

efb

Wilshere hasn't been great of late

Mr.Micro

It could only happen to us, that is, the injury to Wilshere, I am sure he is gutted. I hope he recovers soon and in time for the World Cup.

Nemeses2050

Another classic from Zlatan

Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s tweet to PSG team-mate Blaise Matuidi after his goal last night.

"I saw your goal last night. Magnifique. You must have been watching Zlatan in training #DaretoZlatan"

wandatowell

greendom

Any update on Kos and his availability for Saturday?

tayto lover

greendom wrote: »

Any update on Kos and his availability for Saturday?

Whaaatttt?

What's wrong with Kos?

Mickeroo

tayto lover wrote: »

Whaaatttt?

What's wrong with Kos?

He wasn't risked last night due to an injury, I think it's only a minor one. Good thing he's not English or Hodgson would have had him crocked too no doubt.

DenMan

Come back from work to find out Wilshere is out injured for six weeks!

emergingstar

Arseblog posted this Great video of Ramsey

http://p1r.es/NBuExO

Comparisons with Henderson were absurd and borderline delusional

Spanish Johnny

emergingstar wrote: »

Arseblog posted this Great video of Ramsey

http://p1r.es/NBuExO

Comparisons with Henderson were absurd and borderline delusional

To be honest and even as an Arsenal fan I don't see why they have been delusional. Henderson has been outstanding this year. Creative play has come on leaps and bounds too. We have had Ramsey back to form a year now so lets not get carried away. I would much rather Ramsey but Henderson is an excellent excellent player and is getting better.

Also I hate video clips of players. I saw one of Squillaci before and he looked better than Sol Campbell. I think you can produce clips of any player in the world from his whole career that would make them look good!

gosplan

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

To be honest and even as an Arsenal fan I don't see why they have been delusional. Henderson has been outstanding this year. Creative play has come on leaps and bounds too. We have had Ramsey back to form a year now so lets not get carried away. I would much rather Ramsey but Henderson is an excellent excellent player and is getting better.

Also I hate video clips of players. I saw one of Squillaci before and he looked better than Sol Campbell. I think you can produce clips of any player in the world from his whole career that would make them look good!

I think the point is that until he got injured Ramsey was nailed on for young player of the year and would have been competing for overall player of the year.

Henderson has come on but he's not having nearly the same impact on games.

Marty McFly

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

To be honest and even as an Arsenal fan I don't see why they have been delusional. Henderson has been outstanding this year. Creative play has come on leaps and bounds too. We have had Ramsey back to form a year now so lets not get carried away. I would much rather Ramsey but Henderson is an excellent excellent player and is getting better.

Also I hate video clips of players. I saw one of Squillaci before and he looked better than Sol Campbell. I think you can produce clips of any player in the world from his whole career that would make them look good!

Ah come one we had people in that debate saying Ramsey was a creative player and Henderson had a better engine both complete and utter bollocks to put it bluntly.

As Gosplan said Ramsey was nailed on for young player of the year, just go back to the best player in the premier league thread from the begining of the season to see how highly rated and how well Ramsey was doing at the time. Henderson wasn't even mentioned there not at the same level it not to say Henderson isn't a good player but he wasn't near the level Ramsey was at either.

emergingstar

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

To be honest and even as an Arsenal fan I don't see why they have been delusional. Henderson has been outstanding this year. Creative play has come on leaps and bounds too. We have had Ramsey back to form a year now so lets not get carried away. I would much rather Ramsey but Henderson is an excellent excellent player and is getting better.

Also I hate video clips of players. I saw one of Squillaci before and he looked better than Sol Campbell. I think you can produce clips of any player in the world from his whole career that would make them look good!

Outstanding maybe but not a patch on Ramsey and one stage he wasleading the way with goals, assists and tackles

You said we have him back on form a year that's a long time to be in form when exactly do we get carried away

tayto lover

I think we should play Gnabry on the left and Ox on the right against Everton with Ozil, Cazorla in the middle and Flamini instead of Arteta.
This would give us a great chance at getting in behind them and also the pace needed to counteract the threat of Coleman and Baines,

Marty McFly

tayto lover wrote: »

I think we should play Gnabry on the left and Ox on the right against Everton with Ozil, Cazorla in the middle and Flamini instead of Arteta.
This would give us a great chance at getting in behind them and also the pace needed to counteract the threat of Coleman and Baines,

As much as that sounds exciting I'd say it would be just as likely to give all of us a heart attack anytime Everton attacked.

Flamini would be left very exposed at times.

extra gravy

The good news is that the game is on ITV this weekend. The bad news is that Andy Townsend will probably be commentating.

djPSB

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

To be honest and even as an Arsenal fan I don't see why they have been delusional. Henderson has been outstanding this year. Creative play has come on leaps and bounds too. We have had Ramsey back to form a year now so lets not get carried away. I would much rather Ramsey but Henderson is an excellent excellent player and is getting better.

Also I hate video clips of players. I saw one of Squillaci before and he looked better than Sol Campbell. I think you can produce clips of any player in the world from his whole career that would make them look good!

Is an excellent excellent player better than a top top player?

djPSB

Marty McFly wrote: »

Ah come one we had people in that debate saying Ramsey was a creative player and Henderson had a better engine both complete and utter bollocks to put it bluntly.

As Gosplan said Ramsey was nailed on for young player of the year, just go back to the best player in the premier league thread from the begining of the season to see how highly rated and how well Ramsey was doing at the time. Henderson wasn't even mentioned there not at the same level it not to say Henderson isn't a good player but he wasn't near the level Ramsey was at either.

Only thing is that Ramsey's form at the beginning of the season was at odds with his form over the last few seasons.

He'll only be considered one of the best midfielders in the PL if he sustains that form for a few seasons. Form is temporary, class is important and all that.

Alfred Borden

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

To be honest and even as an Arsenal fan I don't see why they have been delusional. Henderson has been outstanding this year. Creative play has come on leaps and bounds too. We have had Ramsey back to form a year now so lets not get carried away. I would much rather Ramsey but Henderson is an excellent excellent player and is getting better.

Also I hate video clips of players. I saw one of Squillaci before and he looked better than Sol Campbell. I think you can produce clips of any player in the world from his whole career that would make them look good!

THIS! I remember after we signed this legend, I watched this video and thought we were getting one of the best

gosplan

Raf32 wrote: »

THIS! I remember after we signed this legend, I watched this video and thought we were getting one of the best

WOW!! After watching that I think we should try to get him back.

Nah, just kidding. I will always have one fond memory of him though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6N86wceN5I

But while we're on the subject of ridiculous YouTube promo videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug81dqppokM

shano_88

gosplan wrote: »

WOW!! After watching that I think we should try to get him back.

Nah, just kidding. I will always have one fond memory of him though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6N86wceN5I

Yup, the only really good memory of Santos. Who passed the ball out to him in that clip? Cracking pass.

greendom

djPSB wrote: »

Only thing is that Ramsey's form at the beginning of the season was at odds with his form over the last few seasons.

He'll only be considered one of the best midfielders in the PL if he sustains that form for a few seasons. Form is temporary, class is important and all that.

The temporary for Ramsey was the recovery from the career threatening injury he sustained. It took him a long time to recover and get back to his normal game, but now he's back to his best. True enough he needs a few seasons at the top level to prove himself to be a great but I've no doubt he'll get there

Spanish Johnny

djPSB wrote: »

Is an excellent excellent player better than a top top player?

Jeez lads steady on! I never said Henderson was as good as Ramsey I merely said comparisons were not delusional.

I thought the tone of the debate was slightly dismissive of Hendersons form this year is all and his potential to develop to a level like Ramsey.

Agreed that if we kept a fit cinfident Ramsey with the form he was in we would be 4/5 points better off.

Pepe LeFrits

Ramsey had an exceptional 2013, not just a couple of months. He was one of the main reasons for our surge in form that got us 4th last season.

Although considering Ramsey had to start scoring goals before a number of Arsenal fans noticed his form (I recall a few choice comments made about him over the summer), I'm not surprised non Arsenal fans didn't either.

CatInABox

Team news from the press conference:

"We have a little doubt about Koscielny, everyone else came back in a good shape"

"Aaron Ramsey is one week away, he should be back for next weekend. Kallstrom as well."

On the challenge to Wilshere "I believe it was accidental and he will be out for six weeks"

On the rumours of financial compensation "Our shock was losing a competitive player, the finance is not my main worry at the moment"

On the FA Cup: "It is one of the priorities, it's very important to come back with a strong response"

On Bayern: "We have to go out there and go for it. We have to be proactive and score goals"

tayto lover

Wenger says that Jack is out for 8 weeks (SS News)
That usually means we won't see him for the rest of the season.

jonneymendoza

CatInABox wrote: »

Team news from the press conference:

"We have a little doubt about Koscielny, everyone else came back in a good shape"

"Aaron Ramsey is one week away, he should be back for next weekend. Kallstrom as well."

On the challenge to Wilshere "I believe it was accidental and he will be out for six weeks"

On the rumours of financial compensation "Our shock was losing a competitive player, the finance is not my main worry at the moment"

On the FA Cup: "It is one of the priorities, it's very important to come back with a strong response"

On Bayern: "We have to go out there and go for it. We have to be proactive and score goals"

what financial compensation is he talking about?

SlickRic

Andrew Mangan of Arseblog has made an excellent point RE: Ramsey's impending return.

"Someone showed me a video recently and he was involved in almost everything good that Arsenal did. And since he's been out of the team, they've slowed down. It's like someone took the battery out."

that last bit is so so true.

premierstone

jonneymendoza wrote: »

what financial compensation is he talking about?

From the English FA I assumefor the loss of Wilshere.

mike65

jonneymendoza wrote: »

what financial compensation is he talking about?

If a club loses a player to injury on national duty they can get comp from a UEFA fund

http://www.ecaeurope.com/news/european-club-association-reaches-agreement-with-uefa/

ronjo

tayto lover wrote: »

Wenger says that Jack is out for 8 weeks (SS News)
That usually means we won't see him for the rest of the season.

I would guess so too.
Getting Ramsey back fit is absolutely crucial for the run in.

Alfred Borden

Using the bibs theory, TV5 is partnering Per tomorrow, Rosicky and Yaya also playing.

Alfred Borden

Raf32 wrote: »

Using the bibs theory, TV5 is partnering Per tomorrow, Rosicky and Yaya also playing.

Sagna, Flamini and Ox too.

Spanish Johnny

Raf32 wrote: »

Sagna, Flamini and Ox too.

Gibbs or Monreal?

Arteta or Ozil?

Alfred Borden

Spanish Johnny wrote: »

Gibbs or Monreal?

Arteta or Ozil?

There the only photos showing them wearing the grey bibs. Podolski, Ryo and Gnabry all in the green.

Alfred Borden

I'd guess:
Fab
Sagna Per TV5 Gibbs
Arteta Flamini
Ox Ozil Rosicky
Sanogo

Only change could be santi for rosicky or arteta.

x PyRo

https://vine.co/v/MqaBT5qDuU6 :pac:

cathalio11

shano_88 wrote: »

Yup, the only really good memory of Santos. Who passed the ball out to him in that clip? Cracking pass.

Alex Song, I believe.

.jacksparrow.

We're top of the injury table, I know it's a quick made table but still.

Quazzie

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

We're top of the injury table, I know it's a quick made table but still.

Diaby is a regular winner of the Balon D'Or in that alternate universe.

WoollyRedHat

If we took Diaby out of the equation, where would that leave us on the table. He must be skewing the statistics somewhat.

djPSB

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

We're top of the injury table, I know it's a quick made table but still.

There's no trophies for that though :P

Alfred Borden

djPSB wrote: »

There's no trophies for that though :P

no room in the cabinet, we have enough of these bad boys :pac:

.jacksparrow.

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

If we took Diaby out of the equation, where would that leave us on the table. He must be skewing the statistics somewhat.

Sti'll first seems its a point a week for an injured player and were leading the table by 80 or so points!

djPSB

Raf32 wrote: »

no room in the cabinet, we have enough of these bad boys :pac:

That's almost as good as the 'Top at Christmas' trophy

HazDanz

Hope we actually look like we give a sh*t today when playing Everton.


The dirt is still in my mouth after that last stoke performance.

Alfred Borden

Critical part of the season here, win and things might take off again, lose any we are back to square one. Really dont want to draw either.

Marty McFly

Really hope we dont look nervous today like we have done in the past a lot when it comes to these kind of games. There can be no excuses for it today this team isn't full of youth some proper experienced internationals who have been here done this before start the game well.

bad2dabone

we need to come out strong like vs bayern and vs napoli. shock and awe. no more handbrake.