Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

Mickeroo

Gringo180 wrote: »

Wenger tactically is very poor. He has one way of playing and thats it, no plan b, this team isnt good enough to be on the offensive away from home against the likes of Chelsea and City. He should of played Flamini and I would of had Vermaelen/Monreal at left back and Gibbs left wing. Keep it tight for the first 60mins then have a go in the final 3rd of the game when the opposition are tired and not as much of a threat as they would be at the start of a gane.

I think it's more picking the wrong tactics rather than not changing at all. Spurs and united are poor enough this season we should be putting them to the sword but he sets the teams up to grind out results against them (it worked against spurs I know) but when we face Chelsea/City/Liverpool he sets up to with a high line and an open approach which leads to us being ripped apart.

tayto lover

This has to be Chamberlain's worst day in an Arsenal shirt.
He has been brutal.

Maire2009

" Ref: "Gibbs, you're off!"

Ox: "But ref, it was me!"

Ref: "Shut up Walcott, get on with the game""

tayto lover

Oranage2 wrote: »

I'd bring on Sanago, Giroud isn't going to get anything against cahil, Terry or ivanovic in the air and Terry probably out paces him too.

Our problems have not been at the front today although Giroud should have scored early.

bad2dabone

switching off now. going down to the shed. gonna drink some beer and sit in silence.

Mickeroo

Looper007 wrote: »

We can't even with Walcott, Ramsey and Ozil. City beat us 6-3

Even with Ozil. Liverpool beat us 5-1

We have some great players but we need some Toure's and Schweinsteiger's to help those flair players out. We haven't got it right now.

The City result wasn't that hard to take though because it was fairly evenly matched game where we had 2 clear goals disallowed, obviously shouldn't have set up so openly though. We beat Liverpool a week later. I agree we need signings but only 3 or 4, not a total overhaul.

Regardless of these poor results the team has improved since last season in a big way, it's important not to lose sight of that.

Looper007

tayto lover wrote: »

This has to be Chamberlain's worst day in an Arsenal shirt.
He has been brutal.

the whole team has been to be fair. A lack of heart and fight.

We're so far away from a title winning team its crazy.

It's sad cause this season felt like we could do it but the big games have shown us up to be out of our depth.

Mr.Micro

What a shocker.....

Mr.Micro

tayto lover wrote: »

Our problems have not been at the front today although Giroud should have scored early.

It comes back week in and out to haunt us..... Wenger failed to sign a striker, so at least we are a threat going forward.

blingrhino

This is why we won't win the league again - we can't beat the big teams , city , utd and Chelsea .

Gringo180

Arteta is not a defensive midfielder ive seen milk turn quicker than him. Is it just me or has his legs gone since he came back from his last injury?

Alfred Borden

Chamberlain has been terrible. Gibbs was brutal thank god he is off the pitch. Arteta and Per too slow and Cazorla too weak and small for the big games. Giroud i have no words for, wouldnt mind not seeing him again until next season

Looper007

Mickeroo wrote: »

I agree we need signings but only 3 or 4, not a total overhaul.

Regardless of these poor results the team has improved since last season in a big way, it's important not to lose sight of that.

I was been a little caught up in the moment. We need top class battlers to match the flair, A world class Striker (this is a must) and a pacey centre back.

It's a major improvement but teams will get stronger, Utd will spend like crazy, Liverpool will strengthen for sure as will city and Chelsea.

will Arsenal, I don't know.

4-0 now. Christ this is a downer.

Oranage2

tayto lover wrote: »

Our problems have not beust it's the onlyn at the front today although Giroud should have scored early.

I'm not blaming him the whole team has been rubbish but it'll keep giroud fresh for mid week.

gebbel

Yeah I'm not really watching any more. Can't stomach these mercenaries humiliating us. Dirt they are.

Looper007

blingrhino wrote: »

This is why we won't win the league again - we can't beat the big teams , city , utd and Chelsea .

beaten Liverpool and Spures (twice)

drew with Everton, Chelsea and Utd at home
beaten by Chelsea,City, Liverpool and Utd away from home.

Defeats to Stoke and draws to Southampton and West Brom (the other big teams swept the floor with them)

Not good enough.

tayto lover

I can't see many big names wanting to come after the 3 drubbings we have taken this season but let's hope the big names don't follow our results.:D

omega man

This is bad and in all likelihood will end far worse.

Don't like to put the boot in but wenger should have walked a few years ago as with each bad result like today he's damaging his amazing achievements at the club. IF we win the cup he should seriously consider finishing on a high. I'm starting to think no matter what players we have other big club managers simply have one over on him from a tactical perspective. That's not going to change sadly.

Pierce_1991

Haven't posted here in ages. Just coming in like an alcoholic at AA meeting after an all night bender. Just need to be with people who feel like I feel right now

Alfred Borden

How do we blow the FA cup i wonder?

Looper007

Raf32 wrote: »

How do we blow the FA cup i wonder?

I seriously wonder if we win this, Wenger won't think he needs to spend and makes excuses that we're on the right path.

Wigan beat us 7-0 by half time.

gebbel

Raf32 wrote: »

How do we blow the FA cup i wonder?

We won't. It's an inferiority complex against teams like Man Utd and these tramps that needs to be sorted out.

djan

I didnt expect a win but nothing this bad. Think a lot of people were deluded as to how we have been doing. We have lost the majority of games against the big teams showing we are very far off. If we compare the to starting 11s today maybe 2 arsenal players would get into the chelsea one.

Looper007

gebbel wrote: »

We won't. It's an inferiority complex against teams like Man Utd and these tramps that needs to be sorted out.

But most of these players have played on the big stage. I would buy the inferiority complex, if they were full of youngster's making their way. But all these guy's have played in World Cups. Champions leagues. Chelsea and City ain't world beaters but we make them look like they are Munich, Real or Barcelona. It's basic we're not good enough when it comes to the big teams.

djan

Looper007 wrote: »

beaten Liverpool and Spures (twice)

drew with Everton, Chelsea and Utd at home
beaten by Chelsea,City, Liverpool and Utd away from home.

Defeats to Stoke and draws to Southampton and West Brom (the other big teams swept the floor with them)

Not good enough.

Everton and Spurs are not big teams, this season big teams have been man city, chelsea and liverpool. From those games we have got 4/15 points we have a serious task on now to get 4th.

Maire2009

Andre Marriner has told Oxlade-Chamberlain he deserved an Oscar for his turn in 12 Years A Slave

(trying to laugh so I don't fall into the pits of depression)

LuckyLloyd

blingrhino wrote: »

This is why we won't win the league again - we can't beat the big teams , city , utd and Chelsea .

Liverpool are a bigger team than you and we gave you a good walloping recently too. Same old frailties.

Gringo180

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Liverpool are a bigger team than you and we gave you a good walloping recently too. Same old frailties.

What utter bollox

tayto lover

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Liverpool are a bigger team than you and we gave you a good walloping recently too. Same old frailties.

Liverpool have never won the EPL and won't win it this season either.
Living on past glories is pointless.

ricero

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool have never won the EPL and won't win it this season either.
Living on past glories is pointless.

this season liverpool are a better team then arsenal

Gringo180

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool have never won the EPL and won't win it this season either.
Living on past glories is pointless.

Just wait for the European Cup 5 times nonsense. Forrest and Villa have won a European cup does that make them a bigger club than us, ridiculous logic.

Gringo180

ricero wrote: »

this season liverpool are a better team then arsenal

Since when has the season finished?

WoollyRedHat

This is unbelievable.... a bunch of whales would have more composure on the ball than these lads...


Get off Arteta,.... as a matter of interest how many times has Flamini not been in the team for the likes of the City, Liverool drummings?



Chamberlain is having a nightmare....

I despair. What is it with the defence that they get rolled over every time against a team with a potent striking force, in Chelsea's case, an explosive midfield.... serious questions need to be asked after this.

Mr Blobby

I see Liverpool supporters are back again..

*leaves thread*

LuckyLloyd

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool have never won the EPL and won't win it this season either.
Living on past glories is pointless.

Arsenal's ability to win trophies is increasingly an item of the past. Your current team is gutless, and has been ruthlessly exposed today just as you were at Anfield last month.

omega man

Kos off, oh dear :eek:

Quazzie

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Liverpool are a bigger team than you and we gave you a good walloping recently too. Same old frailties.

Good luck in the FA cup.

Enjoy 3rd this year. Try not get a nosebleed from being that high.

Alfred Borden

I can see it now, the reason we wont sign a top striker and defensive mid in the summer, we will have to go through a qualifying round at the end of august.

handsfree

handsfree wrote: »

worryingly we've been spanked in our early kick-offs (man c & pool). we've also performed poorly since ramsey went out injured.

I think we can win this game but like last week, it'll be difficult to watch.

organisationally we've been weak against the big boys. it's time Wenger started setting his team's up to counter our opponents strengths rather than just turn out.

Kess73

Mod Post: Just a reminder to all who decide to use this thread. Play nice and look to argue a point rather than start an arguement.

tayto lover

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Arsenal's ability to win trophies is increasingly an item of the past. Your current team is gutless, and has been ruthlessly exposed today just as you were at Anfield last month.

Did we not beat your team twice?
Where does that put them? Ruthlessly exposed and even more gutless?

Alfred Borden

Ramsey made Arteta look like a top player in the midfield, thats how good he is.

omega man

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Arsenal's ability to win trophies is increasingly an item of the past. Your current team is gutless, and has been ruthlessly exposed today just as you were at Anfield last month.

And you're racking up the trophies :rolleyes:

We beat you twice already this season, remember. Ok the 5-1 was impressive but Liverpool are in no position to slag our club off.

Alfred Borden

This is the very reason nobody wants Liverpool to win the league

Raf32

Raf32 wrote: »

I can see it now, the reason we wont sign a top striker and defensive mid in the summer, we will have to go through a qualifying round at the end of august.

Unless utd win it :pac:

Dcully

tayto lover wrote: »

Liverpool have never won the EPL and won't win it this season either.
Living on past glories is pointless.

Dont be ridiculous, ffs the EPL is the same competition its just a name change.
Its like saying Arsenal never won the league if the powers that be changed the title of the competition next year :rolleyes:

Mr.Micro

I fear for us now making the cut for the CL ....... I know the top 4 places very tight but we have a huge task. My optimism has vanished.

tayto lover

Dcully wrote: »

Dont be ridiculous, ffs the EPL is the same competition its just a name change.
Its like saying Arsenal never won the league if the powers that be changed the title of the competition next year :rolleyes:

Yeah your lot seem to have a mental block about it though

Maire2009

Raf32 wrote: »

This is the very reason nobody wants Liverpool to win the league

Yeah I was being nice yesterday saying I'd like them to win cos of how long they have gone without the league and having never actually won the Premiership, but given their gloating having won nothing, I think Man City would be alright.

Gringo180

Dcully wrote: »

Dont be ridiculous, ffs the EPL is the same competition its just a name change.
Its like saying Arsenal never won the league if the powers that be changed the title of the competition next year :rolleyes:

The point is Liverpool fans have some neck coming in here slagging us when weve been more successful the last 20 years.