Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 mod warning post #5144

Mr Blobby

Going by this: https://twitter.com/lequipe/status/448458133078552576

Griezmann has agreed terms with PSG.

Marty McFly

wawaman wrote: »

I know that but my point is they have made a big improvement this season

So have we how far behind the league leaders were we last year? did we make it to the semis of the F.A Cup? A cup this year in which we knocked Liverpool out of.

There big improvement is to get them were we are, making the next step up is the hardest of all.

There strikeforce is there there strongest point and next year it could be ours to depending on who we bring in, again if we do we will be making progress.

I respect Liverpool as a club they do things the right way. Shame I don't feel the same way about a lot of there fans :pac:.

gosplan

gosplan wrote: »

1: Wenger has done amazing things at Arsenal that pretty much no manager has ever done. Klopp, Rodgers are doing fantastic work but will they put Dortmund and Liverpool on a par with Munich and Man U?

Are you trying to imply that Wenger has put Arsenal on a par with Munich and United?

L'prof

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Are you trying to imply that Wenger has put Arsenal on a par with Munich and United?

I'm sure he's saying that he consistently competed with United for trophies for 9/10 years before the move to the new stadium.

ronjo

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you trying to imply that Wenger has put Arsenal on a par with Munich and United?

Are you crazy????

We are miles ahead of United.

Look at the table!!!

L'prof

L'prof wrote: »

I'm sure he's saying that he consistently competed with United for trophies for 9/10 years before the move to the new stadium.

Which 9/10 years were they?

Mickeroo

Deleted User wrote: »

Which 9/10 years were they?

96 - 06?

tayto lover

Are we on t.v. tonight anyone?

dvemail

tayto lover wrote: »

Are we on t.v. tonight anyone?

Don't think so. Will be a stream job i reckon.

Mickeroo

Manchester Derby is on too so I doubt we're on anywhere.

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

96 - 06?

Compared wit United:
League titles: 3-5
Champions League: 0-1
FA Cups: 3-4
League Cups: 0-0

Not quite par I'd say, we had one more FA Cup, they had 2 more leagues and the champions league.

As for Munich: 7 leagues, 5 DFB-Pokal, 5 DFB-Ligapokal, 1 Champions League, 1 Uefa Cup.

ronjo

Deleted User wrote: »

Compared wit United:
League titles: 3-5
Champions League: 0-1
FA Cups: 3-4
League Cups: 0-0

Not quite par I'd say, we had one more FA Cup, they had 2 more leagues and the champions league.

As for Munich: 7 leagues, 5 DFB-Pokal, 5 DFB-Ligapokal, 1 Champions League, 1 Uefa Cup.

Dont forget to factor in where both clubs were before 1996 or does that not factor into your thinking??

ronjo

tayto lover wrote: »

Are we on t.v. tonight anyone?

Slovak Sport 1 has it.

Mickeroo

Deleted User wrote: »

Compared wit United:
League titles: 3-5
Champions League: 0-1
FA Cups: 3-4
League Cups: 0-0

Not quite par I'd say, we had one more FA Cup, they had 2 more leagues and the champions league.

As for Munich: 7 leagues, 5 DFB-Pokal, 5 DFB-Ligapokal, 1 Champions League, 1 Uefa Cup.

Gee, I didn't see that coming. The point is the team competed at the top level over that period, surely you can admit that? you can try and admit it in a way that doesn't say anything good about the club if it makes you feel more comfortable of course.

ronjo

ronjo wrote: »

Dont forget to factor in where both clubs were before 1996 or does that not factor into your thinking??

Do professional golfers still use a handicap?

Mickeroo wrote: »

Gee, I didn't see that coming.

I'm such a bastard with my numbers aren't I?

ronjo

Deleted User wrote: »

Do professional golfers still use a handicap?

I'm such a bastard with my numbers aren't I?

No, but that its one of the stupidest analogies I have ever seen.

ronjo

ronjo wrote: »

No, but that its one of the stupidest analogies I have ever seen.

Saying that a team was on par with United when they demonstrably weren't? I agree.

Mickeroo

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm such a bastard with my numbers aren't I?

Numbers shmumbers it was just a transparent ruse to try wind folks up, anyone with a passing interest in football would be able to surmise which 9/10 years in Wenger's career the poster was referring too.

ronjo

Deleted User wrote: »

Saying that a team was on par with United when they demonstrably weren't? I agree.

Aha, deflection........ thats handy when you have been called on your rubbish.

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

Numbers shmumbers it was just a transparent ruse to try wind folks up, anyone with a passing interest in football would be able to surmise which 9/10 years in Wenger's career the poster was referring too.

You happened to pick the best 10 year period you could have to demonstrate the point and it didn't demonstrate the point.

ronjo wrote: »

Aha, deflection........ thats handy when you have been called on your rubbish.

Deflection? The whole point was that supposedly Arsenal were on par with United, what came before is irrelevant. If I run 100m in 11 seconds I'm not on par with Usain Bolt no matter how slow I was beforehand. Whatever Arsenal were beforehand they weren't on par with United in that period.

ronjo

Deleted User wrote: »

You happened to pick the best 10 year period you could have to demonstrate the point and it didn't demonstrate the point.

Deflection? The whole point was that supposedly Arsenal were on par with United, what came before is irrelevant. If I run 100m in 11 seconds I'm not on par with Usain Bolt no matter how slow I was beforehand. Whatever Arsenal were beforehand they weren't on par with United in that period.

So why not just say it like that instead of trying to be a smartarse?

Some posters on here would give disprin a headache.

Anyway...

On to cheerier matters.

Any early team news? Working til 9 tonight so gonna miss most of the match.

ronjo

So anyway, whats the team tonight?

Szcz

Sagna BFG Verm Gibs
Flam Ox Cazorla
Gnabry Giroud Pod

I can see Rosicky being rested tonight........ Could bring in Sanogo too but I think he will stick with Giroud.

L'prof

Deleted User wrote: »

Which 9/10 years were they?

Deleted User wrote: »

Compared wit United:
League titles: 3-5
Champions League: 0-1
FA Cups: 3-4
League Cups: 0-0

Not quite par I'd say, we had one more FA Cup, they had 2 more leagues and the champions league.

As for Munich: 7 leagues, 5 DFB-Pokal, 5 DFB-Ligapokal, 1 Champions League, 1 Uefa Cup.

'97-'07: 7 trophies, 9 Runner-Ups across the 4 main comps. If that's not competing for trophies, then I have no idea what is!

gosplan

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you trying to imply that Wenger has put Arsenal on a par with Munich and United?

Solely in terms of financing and future proofing the club.

bad2dabone

My head is wrecked reading this thread. Both sides have some points but I feel that we're at least in a position to look forward with some degree of satisfaction. We really should win the cup this season and hold onto our cl place. But at the same time lads are entitled to be frustrated with some of our policies, notably transfers this term at least, ticket prices, and tactical errors. However wenger has set the club up to be in with a fighting chance versus two clubs with incredible budgets. Fair play to him for that. His tenure is coming to a close soon and the next man to take the job will be left a sports car with the keys in the ignition. Not a tarted up banger that needs repairs and still has a loan on it. Or a basket case club which changes manager every 10 months. It'll be an easier job perhaps than Rodgers got at Liverpool.
Shipping 17 goals in three games is ridiculous. We all felt humiliated. But there's still trophies to play for. Our season's not done.

TheGunns

bad2dabone wrote: »

My head is wrecked reading this thread.

It's very similar to after the Villa game, if we hadn't signed Ozil I don't think I'd have read this thread again Not read anything in here recently, my feelings are probably in the minority and I don't feel like being wrong :P

Hoping for a win/big win tonight

Mr.Micro

TheGunns wrote: »

It's very similar to after the Villa game, if we hadn't signed Ozil I don't think I'd have read this thread again Not read anything in here recently, my feelings are probably in the minority and I don't feel like being wrong :P

Hoping for a win/big win tonight

Any win will do, win ugly even:D

bad2dabone

It's gas I got a fairly abusive email from a Liverpool supporting mate who has been silent on football matters for years and hasn't been to see them since he was 8, telling me how **** arsenal were. Lippy. Fans like that make me insane.

mike65

#SWANS XI to face @Arsenal: Vorm, Rangel, Williams ©, Chico Flores, Taylor, Britton, Shelvey, de Guzman, Routledge, Michu, Bony

XI Arsenal | Szczesny; Sagna Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Flamini, Arteta, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rosicky, Cazorla; Giroud

Alfred Borden

Flamini a yellow card away from suspension so expecting that tonight :pac:

omega man

mike65 wrote: »

#SWANS XI to face @Arsenal: Vorm, Rangel, Williams ©, Chico Flores, Taylor, Britton, Shelvey, de Guzman, Routledge, Michu, Bony

XI Arsenal | Szczesny; Sagna Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Flamini, Arteta, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rosicky, Cazorla; Giroud

Wholesale changes then

Not in the least surprised with that lineup to be honest. He's shown faith in many of them yet again so they had better deliver.

tayto lover

omega man wrote: »

Wholesale changes then

Not in the least surprised with that lineup to be honest. He's shown faith in many of them yet again so they had better deliver.

Pity he didn't play Flamini and Arteta last Sat.
Maybe he mixed up his dates

Alfred Borden

Id say sat was the last time Podolski will start a game in an arsenal shirt.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Since when is Michu back? He's scored a few times against us if i remember correctly

Galvasean

Michu in the starting XI? Back to haunt us again eh?

Galvasean

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Since when is Michu back? He's scored a few times against us if i remember correctly

Came on as a sub in their last game.

Mr.Micro

Galvasean wrote: »

Michu in the starting XI? Back to haunt us again eh?

He is out for 4 months, but back to start tonight against us. What luck, lol. I hope he is not on form. Come on the gunners.

kingtiger

does anyone know what Sat channel this is on?

gnfnrhead

Not taking any chances anyway. That's more or less our strongest line up right now.

tayto lover

Hope we have no "accidents" tonight.

Mickeroo

I see the rumours of dropping half the team have been greatly exaggerated.

Alfred Borden

Least we can all get behind the team for this 90 minutes now

tayto lover

Mickeroo wrote: »

I see the rumours of dropping half the team have been greatly exaggerated.

Hope Gibbs manages to stay awake too.

lertsnim

kingtiger wrote: »

does anyone know what Sat channel this is on?

http://liveonsat.com/n2day.php

That site lists what channels are showing the games. Usually right but some mistakes do crop up from time to time

kingtiger

lertsnim wrote: »

http://liveonsat.com/n2day.php

That site lists what channels are showing the games. Usually right but some mistakes do crop up from time to time

Aye I use the android app, but bloody Munich are on Canal + football

tayto lover

Plenty of empty seats tonight.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

I love the way Flamini always covers back when a defender (Vermaelen) goes up the field.

lertsnim

Horse **** defending

omega man

Oh dear