WWE Elimination Chamber [SS1] 2014 Pre Show Thread *Spoilers*

Donegal Dan

Deadlie wrote: »

despite what the bookies are saying

Bookmakers take bets on something that has a pre-determined outcome?

Moneymaker

WWE are throwing away potentially thousands of subscriptions if Bryan doesn't win.

WWE have never been the smartest so I expect Orton to retain. The odds are what they are for a reason.

Furious-Red

If Bryan does win then we all know he wont beat Batista at WM

Whosthis

I really hope Bryan doesn't win the title tonight. As much as I want him to win it. With everything that has happened since Summerslam I feel it will be an anticlimax unless it happens at Mania. If they decide against including him in the main event for Mania, a big part of me wants the WWE to hold out until Mania 31 to finally hand him the title.

gnfnrhead

Where are people getting the odds? Anything I've tried has nothing available right now.

Donegal Dan wrote: »

Bookmakers take bets on something that has a pre-determined outcome?

You can bet on pretty much anything you can think of.

gnfnrhead

Whosthis wrote: »

I really hope Bryan doesn't win the title tonight. As much as I want him to win it. With everything that has happened since Summerslam I feel it will be an anticlimax unless it happens at Mania. If they decide against including him in the main event for Mania, a big part of me wants the WWE to hold out until Mania 31 to finally hand him the title.

Because holding off worked so well for Samoa Joe in TNA?

When someone is hot, you give them the ball to run with it. You dont delay it for another year.

Moneymaker

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Because holding off worked so well for Samoa Joe in TNA?

When someone is hot, you give them the ball to run with it. You dont delay it for another year.

You know, I listened to JR and Austin talk about this. They said that Stone Cold started to catch fire in 1996 yet he didn't win the belt til 1998 and that fans should be equally patient with DB.

Fans and people have changed since then though. People are far less patient these days.

So yeah, give him the title and strap the rocket to him asap imo. They can't keep screwing him(and the fans by extension) forever.

Whosthis

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Because holding off worked so well for Samoa Joe in TNA?

When someone is hot, you give them the ball to run with it. You dont delay it for another year.

Are you seriously using TNA to validate a point?

It would depend on if they can keep him hot for another year. Its quite possible, book him strongly, screw him over but don't give him the title. I think it was Dusty Rhodes talking about booking that said "the money is in the chase".

Its a long time since they've had somebody getting reactions like Bryan is and I think the only way somebody like that should really be put over is at Mania.

gnfnrhead

Moneymaker wrote: »

You know, I listened to JR and Austin talk about this. They said that Stone Cold started to catch fire in 1996 yet he didn't win the belt til 1998 and that fans should be equally patient with DB.

Fans and people have changed since then though. People are far less patient these days.

So yeah, give him the title and strap the rocket to him asap imo. They can't keep screwing him(and the fans by extension) forever.

I agree with you, but not with Austin.

Austin may have been popular in '96 alright, but it wasnt until '97 that he started to stand out as one of the most popular guys in the company. Before then, he was popular in the same way Sheamus is popular now. He gets a reaction, but nothing spectacular. At Wrestlemania 13 he turned babyface against Bret Hart. That was the start of Austin's rise. A year later he won the title when he couldnt get much hotter.

Ironically, you can label Bryan in almost the exact same way. Following the Sheamus feud in 2012, Bryan started to grow in popularity, much like Austin following his KOTR victory in 1996. Bryan's Wrestlemania 13 was towards the end of Hell No in the early part of 2013. Much like Austin, that's when he really started to grow in popularity. If it were to follow the same path again, Wrestlemania 30 would see Bryan winning the title at the height of his popularity.

If it doesnt happen then, sooner rather than later the fans will start losing interest and latch on to someone else. A few years ago CM Punk was the hottest thing in wrestling. Now he isnt even missed from the shows. That's how quickly things can change. Nothing lasts forever, especially not this level of popularity.

gnfnrhead

Whosthis wrote: »

Are you seriously using TNA to validate a point?

Guessing this means you have no knowledge of the situation?

It would depend on if they can keep him hot for another year. Its quite possible, book him strongly, screw him over but don't give him the title. I think it was Dusty Rhodes talking about booking that said "the money is in the chase".

Its a long time since they've had somebody getting reactions like Bryan is and I think the only way somebody like that should really be put over is at Mania.

Samoa Joe was the hottest thing going in 2006 and even 2007 but TNA wanted to wait and believed that "the money is in the chase". As such, fans lost interest by the time he eventually won the title in 2008. The money is in the pay off, not the chase. Nobody wants to pay to see their favourite wrestler screwed over for a year. They pay to see him win the big one. TNA waited too long. They got an increased buy rate but nothing compared to what it would have been a year earlier.

Lord TSC

Donegal Dan wrote: »

Bookmakers take bets on something that has a pre-determined outcome?

Yeap. Wrestling, soaps, Italian football....

Lord TSC

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Where are people getting the odds? Anything I've tried has nothing available right now.

Sorry for double post, missed this.

Typically the close the markets at 11:00pm.

gnfnrhead

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Sorry for double post, missed this.

Typically the close the markets at 11:00pm.

Wasnt expecting them to be open, but thought they would still show them or something. Only odds I could find were last updated at 8pm and on some site I'd never heard of.

Whosthis

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Guessing this means you have no knowledge of the situation?



Samoa Joe was the hottest thing going in 2006 and even 2007 but TNA wanted to wait and believed that "the money is in the chase". As such, fans lost interest by the time he eventually won the title in 2008. The money is in the pay off, not the chase. Nobody wants to pay to see their favourite wrestler screwed over for a year. They pay to see him win the big one. TNA waited too long. They got an increased buy rate but nothing compared to what it would have been a year earlier.

The TNA comment was meant as a joke. I get your point but then surely if the money is in the payoff then the payoff should be at Mania. I'd love to see it happen this year but it would appear that the WWE have booked themselves into a corner with regards to the title match. I guess it all depends on what happens tonight. An alternative to Bryan winning the title at Mania is he gets screwed again tonight and Taker offers him a shot at the streak .

Whosthis

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Wasnt expecting them to be open, but thought they would still show them or something. Only odds I could find were last updated at 8pm and on some site I'd never heard of.

Book still open with Sky bet according to odds checker. http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/wwe/wwe-elimination-chamber/wwe-title

gnfnrhead

Whosthis wrote: »

The TNA comment was meant as a joke. I get your point but then surely if the money is in the payoff then the payoff should be at Mania. I'd love to see it happen this year but it would appear that the WWE have booked themselves into a corner with regards to the title match. I guess it all depends on what happens tonight. An alternative to Bryan winning the title at Mania is he gets screwed again tonight and Taker offers him a shot at the streak .

Wrestlemania 30 is the perfect time. He isnt going to get any popular and the only way is down. If WWE have any sense, they will fcuk the Batista vs Orton plans out the window and go with Bryan. Have Batista screw Bryan tonight then Bryan has to fight his way in to make it a three way.

gnfnrhead

Whosthis wrote: »

Book still open with Sky bet according to odds checker. http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/wwe/wwe-elimination-chamber/wwe-title

Thank you!

Outlaws seem like the only one that isnt a sure thing. 1/100 for Batista!

Whosthis

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Wrestlemania 30 is the perfect time. He isnt going to get any popular and the only way is down. If WWE have any sense, they will fcuk the Batista vs Orton plans out the window and go with Bryan. Have Batista screw Bryan tonight then Bryan has to fight his way in to make it a three way.

Or Batista puts his title shot on the line against Bryan and Bryan wins his spot. I seem to remember reading that Vince hates the idea of triple threats/fatal four ways headlining mania and now believes the main event should always be one on one.

gnfnrhead

Whosthis wrote: »

Or Batista puts his title shot on the line against Bryan and Bryan wins his spot. I seem to remember reading that Vince hates the idea of triple threats/fatal four ways headlining mania and now believes the main event should always be one on one.

Batista has no reason to put it on the line though. It was obviously just be for the sake of it. I'd also guess Batista has it in his contract that he main events.

The last Wrestlemania main event three way went down pretty well.

Professional Griefer

Pre-show.

gnfnrhead

Pre-show looks like being Rhodes Brothers (how far have they fallen?) vs Rybaxle.

Ridley

The pre-show isn't a punishment slot...

That music is grating though.

gnfnrhead

Ridley wrote: »

The pre-show isn't a punishment slot...

That music is grating though.

It's one step above not wrestling. Being on the panel would be better as you'd be on the main show a few times throughout the night.

CSF

Renee Young.

Manning3000

Hello Renee though

Deadlie

Mark Henry is hard to listen to. The Miz on the other hand, has gameshow host written all over him.

Ridley

gnfnrhead wrote: »

It's one step above not wrestling. Being on the panel would be better as you'd be on the main show a few times throughout the night.

It's a preview to showcase the kind of talent that will be on the PPV and convince you to buy the dang thing.

CSF

Anyone else finding themself warming to Jack Swagger alot more of late?

gnfnrhead

Ridley wrote: »

It's a preview to showcase the kind of talent that will be on the PPV and convince you to buy the dang thing.

Nobody buys a PPV based on the Pre-show. They buy it based on the advertised card. The pre-show is there to kill time.

rovert

The sound of this going over Wrestling fans heads.

Mr.Nice Guy

Poor Mark Henry getting fierce Sexual Chocolate chants. :pac:

Ridley

Be nice if the Bellas could act like that live.

gnfnrhead

Justin Roberts is soooo bad.

Goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaldustahhhhhhhhh!

Manning3000

Larry the axe, that's it rybaxel winning

Chagan

Axel isn't even the most talented Hennig in the building now.

seandotcomm

what the hell is on Ryback's outfit

CastorTroy

Dustin Rhodes always looks so sad. And it's not just his makeup.

Why advertise the Elimination Chamber PPV on the Elimination Chamber preshow which has the countdown to the Elimination Chamber in the corner?

hufpc8w3adnk65

Whats on the pre show?

gnfnrhead

Think the six man tag will be the opener.

seandotcomm wrote: »

what the hell is on Ryback's outfit

Whereabouts?

sockmo

Should be interesting to see how this Christian rumour turns out, who would replace him?, Brock?

gnfnrhead

MrMac84 wrote: »

Whats on the pre show?

Rybaxle vs Rhodes Brothers vs Lesnar and Punk.

andyman

sockmo wrote: »

Should be interesting to see how this Christian rumour turns out, who would replace him?, Brock?

What Christian rumour?

seandotcomm

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Think the six man tag will be the opener.



Whereabouts?

on the entire back of it. it's an airbrushed painting of Ryback snarling while hugging some black guy

CastorTroy

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Rybaxle vs Rhodes Brothers vs Lesnar and Punk.

Can't believe Cody kicked out of that F5.

seandotcomm

seandotcomm wrote: »

on the entire back of it. it's an airbrushed painting of Ryback snarling while hugging some black guy

unless its a really badly done Axel

gnfnrhead

WWE panel picks are death sentences.

Cesaro, Sheamus and Bryan. Not even a sympathy vote for Christian :pac:

bradlente

Looking forward to this,Hopefully we get a raucous crowd for a second ppv running.

CSF

I'd actually quite like Swagger to win this one. Not happening though.

gnfnrhead

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