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CM Punk Megathread

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Mick Murdock


    What a great response to his lawsuit! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,878 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




    I don't know if this has been posted in this thread but it was an interesting interview to me. It's interesting to me given when it was filmed, as he left not that long after.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭HeathenWolf


    Let's take a look at Punk's career highlights with WWE, shall we?

    - Won the ECW World Championship in 2007
    - Won the Money in the Bank matches at Wrestlemania 24 and Wrestlemania 25, becoming the first ever person to win the match twice
    - Won the World Heavyweight Champion THREE times within 2008 and 2009
    - Held the World Tag Team Championships with Kofi Kingston in 2008
    - Won the Intercontinental Championship in 2009
    - Won the WWE Championship twice in 2011 (three times if you count the match with Cena to determine the undisputed champion) and went on to hold the title for 434 days, making him the longest reigning Champion of the modern era

    But yet he throws his toys out of the pram and walks out of the WWE over not being in the main event at Wrestlemania.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭Monokne


    No one actually knows why he left.

    It strikes me he was mentally and physically burnt out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭The Wild Bunch


    He strikes me as bipolar


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    He strikes me as bipolar

    Well if he is then fair play to him for making the decision to look after his mental health. Exact same principles as having a bad neck, your health is more important than making money for someone else.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Another CM Punk looking 10 years younger picture. Hanging out with In Living Colour
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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭The Ayatolla


    Cool, he should be back any day then :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Raw is in Chicago on Monday!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,453 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    rovert wrote: »
    Raw is in Chicago on Monday!

    Am sure this won't be a problem at all. :P


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Good thing Raw these days is largely conducted in silence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Last time they were in Chicago they did it perfectly. They put on a great show and cut the legs off the chants before they ever got going. Hopefully they do the same again because Raw has been dreadful recently.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's how they get ya. We're all expecting an amazing showcase of athleticism and story-telling now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    rovert wrote: »
    Raw is in Chicago on Monday!

    If only Sandow wasn't attached to the Miz, could've had CM Punkdow or whatever


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    I'd say they'll send Heyman out first again to be safe,


  • Registered Users Posts: 60,563 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Send Ambrose out first and really see how over he is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    Would be gas if they just said fcuk it and send Trips out to cut a promo about A+ players, with none being from Chicago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Would be gas if they just said fcuk it and send Trips out to cut a promo about A+ players, with none being from Chicago.

    This please


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Would be gas if they just said fcuk it and send Trips out to cut a promo about A+ players, with none being from Chicago.

    And make sure he mentions his friend "Mark".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Interesting take:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Never heard Del Rio in his normal voice before. Really liked how he explained in years from now he wants his son to be able to google his name and be proud of him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Del Rio's voice sounds different in that video, whereas when he was in the WWE, his accent was a lot heavier


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Never heard Del Rio in his normal voice before. Really liked how he explained in years from now he wants his son to be able to google his name and be proud of him.

    Neither really here or there but you have to remember Mexico has a VERY macho culture. Pride is a very big thing.

    Eddie's real voice also used to throw people too:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭Hashtag_HEEL


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Del Rio's voice sounds different in that video, whereas when he was in the WWE, his accent was a lot heavier

    When I heard him on WTTV on my telly I had to check that it wasn't my TV acting up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Have a ton of respect for Alberto. I've a feeling WWE were looking for an out with him anyhow. Wouldn't be surprised if it emerged that the Web guy was told to provoke him to set him off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I always liked how you could close your eyes listening to an Eddie shoot and almost think it's Dave Grohl. Almost.

    It's always nice when somebody in ADR's position can look back weeks after an event like his firing and have the gratitude of somebody 20 years into the future.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    OMGies Triple H favorited a CM Punk tweet

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    APPARENTLY:


    https://twitter.com/thewadekeller/status/537774447336628224


    Cue Punk being on for 3 minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Ageyev


    Well, if his appearance on the previous episode I listened to is anything to go by I shan't be rushing to download it.

    How is he recieved on the Talking Dead shows? I've not seen them but he strikes me as someone who is just not that well suited to media appearances outside of wrestling. Just yet anyway.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    PWINSIDER:
    Here are the highlights of the CM Punk interview on Colt Cabana's "Art of Wrestling" podcast, which may very well be the best in-depth interview with a top WWE personality all year. Please note these are just some major highlights. Since it's a holiday weekend, I cannot recap everything in detail immediately, but as I have time over the next few days, I will indeed write a more detailed recap because of the nature of the interview and the level of story this obviiously is.

    Before you read these highlights, I highly advise you to check out the original interview as I think all would be best served by listening to this in Punk's own voice at www.ColtCabana.com. In case the site is down, you can go to iTunes.com and subscribe to Cabana's podcast at this link to get the episode. You will hear a MUCH more detailed version of these discussions on Cabana's podcast.

    Punk made it clear that he's the happiest he's personally been in many years and that at times, he will come off bitter while discussing what happened, but it's "OK to be bitter" and that's part of going through the process of dealing with everything and that his appearance wasn't meant to be an attack on WWE, but a discussion of what his led to his departure.

    Highlights:

    *The most amazing thing to come out of the interview is that Punk didn't quit WWE - he was fired. While he left the company in January, he was told weeks later by Vince McMahon via text that he was suspended for two months. The next day, Vince told stockholders that Punk was on a "sabbatical." When the suspension ended, no one in WWE contacted Punk. When Punk reached out asking where royalties that were owed to him were, he got a run-around from WWE until he received termination papers informing him he was in breach of contract on his wedding day. So, they fired him on his wedding day in June 2014, which Punk said was "going too f***ing far." Punk claimed the company tried to find him in "retro-breach" in June, instead of claiming he breached his deal back in January 2014.

    *Punk said he left WWE the day after The Royal Rumble for one main reason: his health. During the podcast, Punk went into great, esquisite detail about the last several months in the company, which includes Punk being so injured that he's working with broken ribs (thanks to Ryback), a concussion (which he ignored after WWE medical asked him if he was OK to go on a European tour, so he toughed it out, which he noted was his own mistake) and injured knees. During the November tour, Punk was getting so sick that he was puking and dry heaving every night after wrestling, had a fever for months and had no appetite. WWE medical had given him so many antibiotics by that he pooped himself in the ring on Smackdown all while watching his checks shrink. Punk described it as the worst he ever felt in his life and being unable to sleep because he was so sick. This went all the way through the end of his WWE run.

    *At the Royal Rumble, Punk suffered a concussion early on and still worked the entire match. The next day, he passed the company's concussion test (which he described as "bullsh**) while texting Colt Cabana and wearing headphones. WWE then told him he passed the test but they wanted him to go run the ring ropes to check him again. At that point, Punk demanded they just decide he has a concussion and admitted that until then he was just trying to deny he was hurt and tough it out.

    That same day, the company began pressuring him about signing visas for future tours and taking a drug test instead of listening to his requests to "f***ing help me" because something was obviously wrong, Punk says he decided to tell Vince McMahon and Triple H he was going home. Punk's version of this conversation is something to behold as he calmly tears into Triple H for cutting off his momentum in 2011 (Punk goes into great detail on issues with HHH), complains to Vince that he's stifled Punk's creativity and tells them both it's garbage they aren't considering Daniel Bryan for the main event of Wrestlemania 30, passing him by the way they've passed Punk by. He told them he was done and didn't want to do this anymore. Vince hugged him goodbye in tears and told him he was family, yet he later suspended and fired Punk.

    *Punk also told a story of going to WWE's doctor because he found a lump on his back during the same time period after the November 2013 European tour. The WWE Doctor, identified by Punk as Chris Amann, diagnosed it as a fatty deposit. Punk tells several stories of asking for Amann to cut it out, but Amann says no because it wasn't hurting Punk. Punk explained WWE docs cut things out of the wrestlers on a regular basis. Amann declined several times to remove it with Punk describing him as "lazy." The day of the 2014 Rumble, Punk told Amann that it was now badly hurting and purple and bigger. Amann told him he couldn't do it because Punk had to work the Rumble. After the Rumble, Punk demanded it be cut out and Amann noted that Punk would need to be on antibiotics, to which Punk responded that had been put on antibiotics WWE docs have given him for three months, which is why he pooped his pants.

    *After leaving WWE and not feeling any better, his wife AJ Lee had him go to her doctor. Her doctor without knowing who Punk was or any background information, immediately looked at the lump and diagnosed Punk with a MERSA staph infection. The doctor proceeded to squeeze the lump so hard the puss hit the ceiling. Punk said getting it cleaned out was the worst pain in his life and he needed specific medications for the infection so none of the meds WWE had been giving him were any help. So, Punk had been wrestling the last few months of his WWE run with a staph infection in his back, which he stated was ignored and/or misdiagnosed by WWE's medical staff. When the doctor asked Punk how long he had the lump and Punk told him a few months, the doctor told him, "You should be dead."

    *Punk talked about how badly hurt he was during his most recent WWE run and that on two occasions, he literally came out of surgery (and in one story, was walking out of the hospital following knee surgery) to find out he was being brought back almost immediately. After elbow surgery, he was told he was being brought back to the road and TV to cut promos and after the knee surgery, was told he was being brought back in three weeks to work a TLC match against Ryback. Punk's version of these stories were enough to really make you shake your head and really need to be heard.

    *Punk described his wrestling career as a failure as he failed to get to the main event of Wrestlemania and that he's come to terms with that as he's moving on to the next stage of his life. He said that it was ridiculous that so many current roster members have been in the main event and said he needed to get there so he could learn to work at that level and get better and draw more. He said he would hear he wasn't a draw, but every chance he had, he "shoved it down their f***ing throats." He said that it all comes down to an "out of touch old man" (Vince McMahon) and his decisions. Punk said he knew he had the best match at Wrestlemania 29 and he was praised for it, but he knew he didn't get the money that John Cena, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, Rock, and Triple H got for the show.

    *Punk said that for anyone complaining he left WWE in a lurch, he didn't hold WWE up for money and didn't ask for anything and didn't walk out in the middle of a storyline. He was chokeslammed by Kane and he was gone. He went home for his health and sanity, although he did note he was frustrated with seeing smaller checks and not getting answers as to how the WWE Network will change the pay scale. Punk noted that everyone was afraid to ask Vince McMahon and even Randy Orton was coming to him asking if he knew anything.

    *Punk said that when WWE fired him and issues a breach, he hired a very vicious lawyer to go after WWE to fight the breach and in the end, he got a settlement that gave him everything he asked for "and more." He said he's just not allowed to talk about the settlement, but pretty much made it clear he got everything he wanted and noted it was stupid of WWE to even advertise him for the next WWE DVD. He said he is completely done and clear of WWE and they will never, ever have a working relationship ever again. He said they were terrified that as an independent contract for the last ten years, that he would take them to court and ruin their way of doing business. When WWE later asked to issue a joint statement between the two, he told them to "F*** off."

    *Punk talked in details about WWE using the independent contractor status, noting the company does concussion testing to help themselves, not the wrestlers. He noted all the money the NFL Player's Union is forcing the NFL to pay for old injuries and medical concerns of players and that WWE is doing all this to prevent wrestlers from being able to say that they aren't. Punk said that if WWE truly cared for the talents, they would allow a union to be created for the talents.

    *Punk also noted that he was to star in "12 Rounds 2" while he was WWE champion. When signing the paperwork, he noticed the filming dates were the same as a WWE European tour and Triple H. Triple H told him that was not the case but he will look into it. The next day, WWE announced Randy Orton would star in the move with HHH never calling Punk to inform him of the change because, as Punk said, "He thinks I'm a piece of sh**." Punk said it was indicative of the lack of respect he was shown by those in the company.

    *Punk said wrestling Ryback took "20 years off his life" and talked in detail about how badly hurt he was working with, as Punk described him, "Steroid guy."

    *WWE was afraid he was going to TNA, but his lawyer told WWE that he despises wrestling now and will never wrestle again.

    I highly advise you to check out the original interview as I think all would be best served by listening to this in Punk's own voice at www.ColtCabana.com. In case the site is down, you can go to iTunes.com and subscribe to Cabana's podcast at this link to get the episode. You will hear a MUCH more detailed version of these discussions on Cabana's podcast. As I noted, I will have a MUCH more detailed recap on this interview when time will allow over the course of the holiday weekend.


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