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jimeryan22 wrote: »Surely your not suggesting hitler was a good man..?
Well since I wasn't alive then, and didn't know Hitler personally I can't judge him on whether he was or was not.
But when you see two American Presidents writing the following, it has to make you wonder sometimes if there's more to Hitler than we are told:
'The Germans really are too good - therefore people have ganged up on them to protect themselves", John F Kennedy (August 21st 1937)
'....within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country, which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made'. John F Kennedy (Summer 1945)
Harry Truman wrote:
'The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as misplaced persons, as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes."
Now those are the words of two former Presidents. We think of Hitler has an evil, psychopath, but to say Hitler was hated by all back then would be false.
We also hear of Hitler being a raving antisemite. Yet during the Olympic Games of 1936, African-American athlete Jesse Owens, was treated better by the Germans, and in Germany than he was in America. Hitler never snubbed him, Roosevelt was the one who treated him like dirt. Hitler even sent him a commemorative inscribed cabinet. Yet the media in America twisted that around like they always do, and lied to the American people.
Always remember Hitler's favourite athlete at the 1936 Olympic games was an Egyptian Arab weightlifter called Khadr El-Touni. Hitler said to him ''Egypt should be proud of you. I wish you were German. I hope you consider Germany your second home', so impressed he even named a street in Germany after him. Khadr El-Touni being an Egyptian, was also a Semite.
Never believe what you are told. Always go deeper, because you'd be very suprised how easily you can be mislead, and duped.0 -
Well since I wasn't alive then, and didn't know Hitler personally I can't judge him on whether he was or was not.
But when you see two American Presidents writing the following, it has to make you wonder sometimes if there's more to Hitler than we are told:
'The Germans really are too good - therefore people have ganged up on them to protect themselves", John F Kennedy (August 21st 1937)
'....within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country, which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made'. John F Kennedy (Summer 1945)
Harry Truman wrote:
'The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as misplaced persons, as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes."
Now those are the words of two former Presidents. We think of Hitler has an evil, psychopath, but to say Hitler was hated by all back then would be false.
We also hear of Hitler being a raving antisemite. Yet during the Olympic Games of 1936, African-American athlete Jesse Owens, was treated better by the Germans, and in Germany than he was in America. Hitler never snubbed him, Roosevelt was the one who treated him like dirt. Hitler even sent him a commemorative inscribed cabinet. Yet the media in America twisted that around like they always do, and lied to the American people.
Always remember Hitler's favourite athlete at the 1936 Olympic games was an Egyptian Arab weightlifter called Khadr El-Touni. Hitler said to him ''Egypt should be proud of you. I wish you were German. I hope you consider Germany your second home', so impressed he even named a street in Germany after him. Khadr El-Touni being an Egyptian, was also a Semite.
Never believe what you are told. Always go deeper, because you'd be very suprised how easily you can be mislead, and duped.
Sorry, you still won't convince me hitler has been made some sort of scapegoat for the atrocities he was part of... I've seen plenty of his speeches to know he was a complete lunatic.. As for Kennedy saying those things, I personally was never aware he had.. But, you learn something every day.. And at the end of it, if your swinging to the hitler was misunderstood, that's pretty worrying in itself..0 -
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Well since I wasn't alive then, and didn't know Hitler personally I can't judge him on whether he was or was not.
But when you see two American Presidents writing the following, it has to make you wonder sometimes if there's more to Hitler than we are told:
'The Germans really are too good - therefore people have ganged up on them to protect themselves", John F Kennedy (August 21st 1937)
'....within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived. He had boundless ambition for his country, which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made'. John F Kennedy (Summer 1945)
Harry Truman wrote:
'The Jews, I find, are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as misplaced persons, as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog. Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist he goes haywire. I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes."
Now those are the words of two former Presidents. We think of Hitler has an evil, psychopath, but to say Hitler was hated by all back then would be false.
We also hear of Hitler being a raving antisemite. Yet during the Olympic Games of 1936, African-American athlete Jesse Owens, was treated better by the Germans, and in Germany than he was in America. Hitler never snubbed him, Roosevelt was the one who treated him like dirt. Hitler even sent him a commemorative inscribed cabinet. Yet the media in America twisted that around like they always do, and lied to the American people.
Always remember Hitler's favourite athlete at the 1936 Olympic games was an Egyptian Arab weightlifter called Khadr El-Touni. Hitler said to him ''Egypt should be proud of you. I wish you were German. I hope you consider Germany your second home', so impressed he even named a street in Germany after him. Khadr El-Touni being an Egyptian, was also a Semite.
Never believe what you are told. Always go deeper, because you'd be very suprised how easily you can be mislead, and duped.
In the vein of never believing what I'm told, do you have credible links to all of the above claims and quotes?
Furthermore:Well since I wasn't alive then, and didn't know Hitler personally I can't judge him on whether he was or was not.
I presume you haven't met either Roosevelt, Kennedy nor Truman. Yet, you can judge THEM.0
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