Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread III

chris85

Hagz wrote: »

Against the Head RTE 2, 10 mins.

Was just about to post this also. Looking forward to it.

Hagz

"3 of the 5 previous time we played Scotland we lost"



Am I missing something here?
Tom McGurk said the same thing on Saturday

EDIT: Nvm, we played them in Aug 2011 apparently and lost.

Thekidneybean

Just realized I put tommy O'Donnell on my fantasy rugby team when I meant to put jamie heaslip on....NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

accidentprone1

Not sure if it's been posted yet:

Injury update - Reddan and Fitz still out.

http://www.thescore.ie/ireland-injury-update-wales-1299072-Feb2014/

sullivlo

I just heard on the radio that O'Connell and Rob Kearney sat out training with chest infection and calf strain respectively.

rrpc

sullivlo wrote: »

I just heard on the radio that O'Connell and Rob Kearney sat out training with chest infection and calf strain respectively.

Both expected to make it. Kearney got a knock in the match, not a calf strain.

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/ireland-injury-update-wales-1299072-Feb2014/

Stupify

CatFromHue wrote: »

I'm just thinking out loud here I've no facts what so ever but don't the IRFU have a clause that if you're injured for a % of the season they can reduce your pay?

TOL was injured alot around then so if they did do this and it was a poorly operating training machine was one of the reasons why he was out injured you can see why he would want to take them to court.

I can't see him wanting to come back to an Irish team again either.

He's never coming back to Munster anyway, that's for sure. But might end up at Connacht to end his career?

phog

Stupify wrote: »

He's never coming back to Munster anyway, that's for sure. But might end up at Connacht to end his career?

When he left I thought he'd return to Munster but I doubt that now especially if Murray stays around.

Stupify

phog wrote: »

When he left I thought he'd return to Munster but I doubt that now especially if Murray stays around.

I don't think Munster would take him back, even if he was playing the best rugby of his life, even if Murray left us. Hopefully someone younger comes along as an able back-up for Murray.

eire4

accidentprone1 wrote: »

Not sure if it's been posted yet:

Injury update - Reddan and Fitz still out.

http://www.thescore.ie/ireland-injury-update-wales-1299072-Feb2014/

Not as big a blow as not having O'Brien and Ferris but it would have been good to have Reddan and Fitzgerald as options off the bench given how well they have played recently for Leinster this season.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience

Stupify wrote: »

I don't think Munster would take him back, even if he was playing the best rugby of his life, even if Murray left us. Hopefully someone younger comes along as an able back-up for Murray.

From a purely rugby perspective they'd be mad not to

Stupify

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

From a purely rugby perspective they'd be mad not to

Well, I'm not thinking purely rugby in this case, there are other things in play for why Munster would never want him back and he more than likely wouldn't be too keen himself.

bilston

It just occurred to me (well I actually read it elsewhere) that Martin Moore became the fifth player from the Leinster/Ulster U20 side from 2010 to be capped by Ireland.

Quite an impressive return from that game.

The Lost Sheep

bilston wrote: »

It just occurred to me (well I actually read it elsewhere) that Martin Moore became the fifth player from the Leinster/Ulster U20 side from 2010 to be capped by Ireland.

Quite an impressive return from that game.

Very Impressive. None from other side and not likely in the next while that there will be any

Tox56

bilston wrote: »

It just occurred to me (well I actually read it elsewhere) that Martin Moore became the fifth player from the Leinster/Ulster U20 side from 2010 to be capped by Ireland.

Quite an impressive return from that game.

Yeah that was a really one sided game! There are other prospects who were of that age group but didn't play, but just looking at the team sheet, of the guys that did play I can't see any others that have a realistic chance of being capped by Ireland.

dtpc191991

That maul thing by Schmidt is just genius where does the man get his ideas.

who_me

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Very Impressive. None from other side and not likely in the next while that there will be any

None of the Munster contingent are near the Munster 1st team, never mind Ireland.

.ak

eire4 wrote: »

Not as big a blow as not having O'Brien and Ferris but it would have been good to have Reddan and Fitzgerald as options off the bench given how well they have played recently for Leinster this season.

Well Fitzgerald would be starting as he's been the best wing in the country, so he's a big loss for a big game like Wales.

.ak

dtpc191991 wrote: »

That maul thing by Schmidt is just genius where does the man get his ideas.

How do you mean? It's just a standard truck n trailer maul executed well.

The Lost Sheep

who_me wrote: »

None of the Munster contingent are near the Munster 1st team, never mind Ireland.

I know and never said otherwise. With hindsight shows even more why wrong provinces were chosen to combine for that game. Connachts set of players doing better than Munsters from that game with Ulster by far doing the best out of the players who played that game

Hagz

dtpc191991 wrote: »

That maul thing by Schmidt is just genius where does the man get his ideas.

Kudos should really go to John Plumtree. As in depth as Schmidt is, I'd say he leaves the maul and line-out to Plumtree.

who_me

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I know and never said otherwise. With hindsight shows even more why wrong provinces were chosen to combine for that game. Connachts set of players doing better than Munsters from that game with Ulster by far doing the best out of the players who played that game

I was agreeing with you / adding to your point!

Munster players tend to come through into the senior squad at later ages (players like POM & Hanrahan being recent exceptions). I wonder if that's caused by, or a cause of the Munster underage players such as those who featured in the combined game being quite a bit behind their provincial counterparts.

ScissorPaperRock

.ak wrote: »

How do you mean? It's just a standard truck n trailer maul executed well.

I think he's referring to this

http://www.thescore.ie/ireland-maul-john-plumtree-1300206-Feb2014/

I posted earlier about it

ScissorPaperRock wrote: »

Interesting bit in this article on the reasoning behind Ireland's new emphasis on the driving maul. The theory is that developing the driving maul as a weapon for scoring tries will discourage defending teams from giving away penalties, given that they know we can kick for the corner and have a good chance at scoring tries or take the three points.

I think the idea's pretty interesting. Discourage the opposition from slowing down our ball or taking risks in the breakdown for fear that we'll kick to the corner and drive over the line.

Some Yoke

Henshaw an outside bet for the bench spot? Given Schmidts policy for rotation

The Lost Sheep

who_me wrote: »

I was agreeing with you / adding to your point!

Munster players tend to come through into the senior squad at later ages (players like POM & Hanrahan being recent exceptions). I wonder if that's caused by, or a cause of the Munster underage players such as those who featured in the combined game being quite a bit behind their provincial counterparts.

Few of those Munster players will be involved at later age. Not many staring at AIL level from that age group. Munster have improved in some aspects in coaching/developing u18-20 players since then but still lot of work to go to catch other provinces especially in the backs where gap is monstrous at the moment

Paul Smeenus

bilston wrote: »

It just occurred to me (well I actually read it elsewhere) that Martin Moore became the fifth player from the Leinster/Ulster U20 side from 2010 to be capped by Ireland.

Quite an impressive return from that game.

First non-Ulster player?

Those fellas can be pretty happy with themselves. Jacko and Marshall are first choice provincial, second choice international in their positions. Henderson' s situation is complicated by not settling on one position, but he's in the mix internationally and being groomed for greatness provincially. Gilroy is third best provincial winger and bubbling under for Ireland.

dtpc191991

.ak wrote: »

How do you mean? It's just a standard truck n trailer maul executed well.

Sorry too all concerned I should have explained it. According to a recent article on the Score Schmidt told Plumree to develop a strong driving maul so that teams will be discouraged from giving us penalties as we can kick to the corner and score tries. In turn this will make teams more passive when slowing our ball down at ruck time meaning we can secure quicker ball and hopefully create more gaps in the opposition defence for the backline to attack and as a result more try scoring oppourtunities from deeper positions in the field.

LeeroyJones

ooooooh, new IRFU site

www.irishrugby.ie

fancy

The Pheasant2

LeeroyJones wrote: »

ooooooh, new IRFU site

www.irishrugby.ie

fancy

Was just looking at the "Facts and Figures" article they had - said POM and Faletau had the most turnovers in rd 1 with 3 turnovers...Henry had three too didn't he?

CatFromHue

That's all the provinces and the national side now who've updated their websites.

Hagz

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Was just looking at the "Facts and Figures" article they had - said POM and Faletau had the most turnovers in rd 1 with 3 turnovers...Henry had three too didn't he?

Nope, Henry had 1 turn-over at around 2:38.

The Pheasant2

Hagz wrote: »

Nope, Henry had 1 turn-over at around 2:38.

Interesting...could've sworn he had more!


On a side note just found out Wayne Barnes is the ref for Saturday

Spud83

You can tell the new site is delivered by the same agency as the provinces anyway. The all look and feel the same. The irishrugby one seems to be having some teething problems, slow loading, not automatically directed to the mobile site so you have to searching for it down the bottom hidden under the share bar and cookie policy. Then on the mobile site it's difficult to find something simple like the next kick off time. Delivering a separate mobile / web site nowadays is ridiculous on it's own.

I dunno maybe it's just me but it's annoying to me that Irish rugbys web presence is handled by a UK company, who is delivering a poor product when there are so many capable digital and web agencies in Ireland.

Morf

Spud83 wrote: »

You can tell the new site is delivered by the same agency as the provinces anyway. The all look and feel the same. The irishrugby one seems to be having some teething problems, slow loading, not automatically directed to the mobile site so you have to searching for it down the bottom hidden under the share bar and cookie policy. Then on the mobile site it's difficult to find something simple like the next kick off time. Delivering a separate mobile / web site nowadays is ridiculous on it's own.

I dunno maybe it's just me but it's annoying to me that Irish rugbys web presence is handled by a UK company, who is delivering a poor product when there are so many capable digital and web agencies in Ireland.

Mess trying to find out when the live stream for the press conference was on.

Then trying to find the stream. Then getting a 404 error trying to go fullscreen from one embedded stream.

Wasn't immediately obvious it was the stream or just the O2 rugby videos on loop.

astonaidan

Anyone recommend a good paper that has a good rugby write up?

rrpc

astonaidan wrote: »

Anyone recommend a good paper that has a good rugby right up?

Rugby right up yours too

Davei141

Hagz wrote: »

Nope, Henry had 1 turn-over at around 2:38.

Henry won a turnover on 57:30, just watched it there.

Hagz

Davei141 wrote: »

Henry won a turnover on 57:30, just watched it there.

I'll look again later, but I'm almost positive you are mistaking O'Mahony's turn-overs as Henry's. Did Henry hold his wrist in pain afterwards? Cause if he did that was POM's turn-over.

I can't check now, but I'll check later.

Davei141

Hagz wrote: »

I'll look again later, but I'm almost positive you are mistaking O'Mahony's turn-overs as Henry's. Did Henry hold his wrist in pain afterwards? Cause if he did that was POM's turn-over.

I can't check now, but I'll check later.

Yeah that's the one. You are correct sorry just glanced the replay right after POM rips it so it looks like POM tackles n Henry gets over it but POM already won it.

digzy

Ireland are training in Clonmel later in the week, thinking of calling down.
Are these things worth going to or is it just an autograph session for kiddies?

I presume they're hardly on a jolly anyway....I hope:cool:

Molester Stallone

TOL had a good game today as LI handed Sarries their first loss at the allianz

Buer

Molester Stallone wrote: »

TOL had a good game today as LI handed Sarries their first loss at the allianz

Good to see Hagan and Sheridan getting games too. I think Sheridan has, incredibly, still played every second of their AP campaign.

Alas, TOL's Irish career is almost certainly done after last week.

Molester Stallone

Buer wrote: »

Good to see Hagan and Sheridan getting games too. I think Sheridan has, incredibly, still played every second of their AP campaign.

Alas, TOL's Irish career is almost certainly done after last week.

I don't think last week has made any difference to his Irish chances to be fair.....he had none before it.

Buer

Molester Stallone wrote: »

I don't think last week has made any difference to his Irish chances to be fair.....he had none before it.

Fair point but I can't see him even ever playing in Ireland again at all now which is a pity. He could do a job.

Molester Stallone

Buer wrote: »

Fair point but I can't see him even ever playing in Ireland again at all now which is a pity. He could do a job.

Leinster will be on the lookout for a new 9 in the next year or so.........*runs away very quickly*

antogz1979

Ireland up at + 5 with PP for the England game, I'll take that thank you

Buer

Molester Stallone wrote: »

Leinster will be on the lookout for a new 9 in the next year or so.........*runs away very quickly*

Ha, I wasn't thinking about Leinster. I think Pienaar could do with better cover than Paul Marshall. The next 18 months will be telling for Leinster.

The Lost Sheep

digzy wrote: »

Ireland are training in Clonmel later in the week, thinking of calling down.
Are these things worth going to or is it just an autograph session for kiddies?

I presume they're hardly on a jolly anyway....I hope:cool:

Its a restricted session so more than just autograph session for kids
Email cluboffice 'at'clonmelrfc.com before tomorrow if you want to have a shot at going.

thomond2006

It doesn't sound good for Tuohy. I imagine Mike McCarthy will replace him?

Buer

thomond2006 wrote: »

It doesn't sound good for Tuohy. I imagine Mike McCarthy will replace him?

How's Ryan getting on? I wouldn't worry about McCarthy, Henderson or Ryan coming into the 23. I think Toner and POC are nailed on regardless of others for time being though. I can't get over how much Toner has come on in a year.