When might Eircom to enable vectoring on their eFibre/VDSL service?

ED E

Tonio wrote: »

Just checked. My attainable is now 111 Mb down and 30 Mb up. What would you say is the correct profile for the line post vectoring?

That sounds like its vectored. Start it with 100 and if its unstable then it could be dropped to 90.

GIMickey

how does Vodafone customers find the max attainable speeds. I checked everywhere on that Vodafone modem and cant see it.

Tonio

GIMickey wrote: »

how does Vodafone customers find the max attainable speeds. I checked everywhere on that Vodafone modem and cant see it.

I followed the guide in the first post on the 'Bridging the Vodafone HG658c' thread. You need to display all menus and then you should see it in the line stats.

lmimmfn

GIMickey wrote: »

how does Vodafone customers find the max attainable speeds. I checked everywhere on that Vodafone modem and cant see it.

Using firefox login to the router( might have to use user/pwd admin/admin1234 ), open the page in WAN that shows the speeds, right click "Inspect element" on one of the elements of the table, like download speed or whatever and i think its the top 2 "display=none", change them to just "" and you'll see the attainable speeds.

anotherposter

jmcc wrote: »

Is Eircom enabling vectoring on eFibre and upgrading all their packages? Have any Eircom business eFibre users been upgraded yet?

Regards...jmcc

yes but you need to call in.

roc13x

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 0 hour: 5 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 10.297 Mbps 41.055 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 10.239 Mbps 40.955 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.0 dB 7.2 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 9.0 dBm 10.1 dBm
Receive Power: -6.4 dBm -6.8 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 15.4 dB 17.0 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 15.013 Mbps 49.584 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 5.9 35.8 59.4 N/A 16.4 47.6 75.8
Signal Attenuation(dB): 5.9 34.9 61.9 N/A 13.0 47.1 N/A
SNR Margin(dB): 9.6 8.8 9.1 N/A 6.9 6.9 N/A
Transmit Power(dBm):- 0.6 6.1 4.7 N/A 6.1 7.9 N/A
============================================================================

I'm on a 40mb profile at the moment. Any chance of seeing an improvement if I call? I'm not sure if vectoring was switched on here yet (Tralee)

AlanS181824

Seems to have been a lot of activity with Eircom/KN Vans around Carlow town recently. Wonder is this just people getting Fibre or Vectoring being activated.

arctan

Vectoring involves a physical card update if not up to spec (on initial installed cabs cards weren't up to spec, all cabs are up to spec now)

vectoring is switched on by means of a software update to the hardware in the cab (done remotely)

bar the test cabs, other cabs won't be enabled until April with a couple of hundred a day updated

Nonoperational

roc13x wrote: »

============================================================================
VDSL Training Status: Showtime
Mode: VDSL2 Annex B
VDSL Profile: Profile 17a
Traffic Type: PTM Mode
Link Uptime: 0 day: 0 hour: 5 minutes
============================================================================
VDSL Port Details Upstream Downstream
Line Rate: 10.297 Mbps 41.055 Mbps
Actual Net Data Rate: 10.239 Mbps 40.955 Mbps
Trellis Coding: ON ON
SNR Margin: 9.0 dB 7.2 dB
Actual Delay: 4 ms 8 ms
Transmit Power: 9.0 dBm 10.1 dBm
Receive Power: -6.4 dBm -6.8 dBm
Actual INP: 2.0 symbols 3.0 symbols
Total Attenuation: 15.4 dB 17.0 dB
Attainable Net Data Rate: 15.013 Mbps 49.584 Mbps
============================================================================
VDSL Band Status U0 U1 U2 U3 D1 D2 D3
Line Attenuation(dB): 5.9 35.8 59.4 N/A 16.4 47.6 75.8
Signal Attenuation(dB): 5.9 34.9 61.9 N/A 13.0 47.1 N/A
SNR Margin(dB): 9.6 8.8 9.1 N/A 6.9 6.9 N/A
Transmit Power(dBm):- 0.6 6.1 4.7 N/A 6.1 7.9 N/A
============================================================================

I'm on a 40mb profile at the moment. Any chance of seeing an improvement if I call? I'm not sure if vectoring was switched on here yet (Tralee)

No you're about as good as you will do there at the moment.

kaahooters

Just to clarify, my cab is upgraded, if I ring eircome, I can get a speed boost free upgrade?

GIMickey

@ kaahooters

Yes, if your on the 70mb unlimited package, then it is a free upgrade. But for example if ur only paying for 50mb package then they wont upgrade for free.

Saying that, if currently ur line only supports 40mb out of the 50mb, then they will upgrade you to 50mb from free.

Bog Standard User

arctan wrote: »

Vectoring involves a physical card update if not up to spec (on initial installed cabs cards weren't up to spec, all cabs are up to spec now)

vectoring is switched on by means of a software update to the hardware in the cab (done remotely)

bar the test cabs, other cabs won't be enabled until April with a couple of hundred a day updated

vectoring is all software based. the cabs when installed already have the hardware

domeld

AS far as i know vectoring has been enabled on all exchanges around country.
I don know if cabinet must be enabled as well.

apophis

Hi all,
I am currently with vodafone fibre, do i need to contact them (which i dread) to activate vectoring from their end, or is it applied automatically when the cab is ready, i am currently on 70Mb dl and getting 46Mb at the pc, and about 600m from the cab, can i expect an increase in speed nearer to what i am paying for if i get vectoring sorted.
many thanks in advance,

apophis :cool:

bk

So I've heard that the mass enabling of vectoring on all cabs starts tomorrow and should be complete in about two weeks time.

They will be enabling hundreds of cabs per night.

To be honest I wouldn't bother ringing Eircom to upgrade your profile. I expect Eircom will automatically upgrade all profiles in a few weeks time once the vectoring is enabled on a ll cabs.

Mickalus

bk wrote: »

So I've heard that the mass enabling of vectoring on all cabs starts tomorrow and should be complete in about two weeks time.

They will be enabling hundreds of cabs per night.

Good to hear!

bk wrote: »

To be honest I wouldn't bother ringing Eircom to upgrade your profile. I expect Eircom will automatically upgrade all profiles in a few weeks time once the vectoring is enabled on a ll cabs.

Depends on your current package.. If you're already paying for up to 70, then yes, definitely wait and see what happens.

If you're paying for a smaller package - up to 50 for example and you're actually getting 50...I think you'll need to make that call and up your package to the 70 one for the increased speeds.

Either way, I'd hold off for a week or two until you know for sure when vectoring is all done and dusted.

Nonoperational

Great news. So far the initial results of vectoring appear to be extremely impressive. Very much looking forward to seeing what it does overall.

OneEightSeven

Mickalus wrote: »

Good to hear!



Depends on your current package.. If you're already paying for up to 70, then yes, definitely wait and see what happens.

If you're paying for a smaller package - up to 50 for example and you're actually getting 50...I think you'll need to make that call and up your package to the 70 one for the increased speeds.

Either way, I'd hold off for a week or two until you know for sure when vectoring is all done and dusted.

Did they ditch the "up to" 50Mb packages? Vodafone never even had one.

Mickalus

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Did they ditch the "up to" 50Mb packages? Vodafone never even had one.

Eircom still have them anyway.

red_bairn

bk wrote: »

So I've heard that the mass enabling of vectoring on all cabs starts tomorrow and should be complete in about two weeks time.

They will be enabling hundreds of cabs per night.

To be honest I wouldn't bother ringing Eircom to upgrade your profile. I expect Eircom will automatically upgrade all profiles in a few weeks time once the vectoring is enabled on a ll cabs.

Do people need to restart the routers for a firmware update or was that just for bridging?

domeld

I can supply new firmware for vodafone bridged routers.

OneEightSeven

Mickalus wrote: »

Eircom still have them anyway.

I see it now. It has a 30GB cap, so I don't even acknowledge that as a package for the average customer.

fat-tony

red_bairn wrote: »

Do people need to restart the routers for a firmware update or was that just for bridging?

VF published a link to download firmware for those routers supplied without the vectoring firmware and subsequently bridged. It's - https://broadband.vodafone.ie/download/files/HG658c_B214.zip
The modems they are issuing at present still don't have that vector enabling firmware. My daughter's modem (supplied last week) was still on the old firmware and automatically pulled (or was pushed) the new version when I plugged it into the VDSL.
The new firmware also enables the bridging option so you don't have to faff about with browser stylesheets.

I would imagine that the vectoring change would be fairly transparent as it happens at the modem's DSL layer.

red_bairn

fat-tony wrote: »

VF published a link to download firmware for those routers supplied without the vectoring firmware and subsequently bridged. It's - https://broadband.vodafone.ie/download/files/HG658c_B214.zip
The modems they are issuing at present still don't have that vector enabling firmware. My daughter's modem (supplied last week) was still on the old firmware and automatically pulled (or was pushed) the new version when I plugged it into the VDSL.
The new firmware also enables the bridging option so you don't have to faff about with browser stylesheets.

I would imagine that the vectoring change would be fairly transparent as it happens at the modem's DSL layer.

ah, k. Fair enough. Not that it affects me in any way. >.>

AlanS181824

I wonder when Vodafone/Eircom/Digiweb and the like will start advertising these new vectoring enabled profiles?
Like 85/20, 100/20 or whatever they'll have.
Still puzzles me as to why they don't pump the upload when it appears from the stats posted on here that most lines can handle it.

fat-tony

AlanS181824 wrote: »

I wonder when Vodafone/Eircom/Digiweb and the like will start advertising these new vectoring enabled profiles?
Like 85/20, 100/20 or whatever they'll have.
Still puzzles me as to why they don't pump the upload when it appears from the stats posted on here that most lines can handle it.

Unless you are trying to run a website from a home server or are involved in peer-to-peer sharing why do you need high bandwidth upload?

Nonoperational

AlanS181824 wrote: »

I wonder when Vodafone/Eircom/Digiweb and the like will start advertising these new vectoring enabled profiles?
Like 85/20, 100/20 or whatever they'll have.
Still puzzles me as to why they don't pump the upload when it appears from the stats posted on here that most lines can handle it.

20 up is still a 20 times increase for a lot of people. They probably feel there is no need.

KIERAN1

AlanS181824 wrote: »

I wonder when Vodafone/Eircom/Digiweb and the like will start advertising these new vectoring enabled profiles?
Like 85/20, 100/20 or whatever they'll have.
Still puzzles me as to why they don't pump the upload when it appears from the stats posted on here that most lines can handle it.

Eircom has a page. Why not ask one of the reps on there? I'd be interested in knowing the answer.

If it can go higher with no problems. Why not have a higher upload?

ED E

Nonoperational wrote: »

20 up is still a 20 times increase for a lot of people. They probably feel there is no need.

Yeah, for now there really isnt. I'd be a very heavy user and there are 4 others in the household and we dont have any sort of saturation on a 10Mb uplink. No problems on 5Mb either.

10Mb is faster than a dropbox sync server can handle, faster than you'd ever need for the likes of Carbonite, plenty for 5 concurrent video skype calls. Really the common use case for more upstream at the moment is youtube uploads. And the difference between 20 and 30 wouldnt be significant unless you're shooting high bitrate 4k.

KIERAN1

Nonoperational wrote: »

20 up is still a 20 times increase for a lot of people. They probably feel there is no need.

I have 324kb upload it sucks. I can't stand people who complain about having 20 meg upload, but if your line can handle it. Why not just have the increase.

I game sometimes on my xb1 and i love if i could host private lobbies. Since i play with some UK lads it would be better to have more upload speed?

kingtiger

I would love more upload , like being able streaming my sat box remotely in HD without encoding

or uploading large files from my desktop to my Dedi server, the list goes on

domeld

Hi guys,

I have sad news. I got info that whole vectoring deploy has been suspended.
Huaweii discovered bug in switch firmware which is allowing to have a remote access to switch in cabinet.
They have to roll back all of upgraded cabinet already - as far as I know they will be start this night.

This is very said, I was so excited to get 100 Mb bb at home

GIMickey

domeld wrote: »

Hi guys,

I have sad news. I got info that whole vectoring deploy has been suspended.
Huaweii discovered bug in switch firmware which is allowing to have a remote access to switch in cabinet.
They have to roll back all of upgraded cabinet already - as far as I know they will be start this night.

This is very said, I was so excited to get 100 Mb bb at home

Yeah just I have a wee read of that article. Sad news. Absolutely raging.

apophis

Ya deffo sad, must look for that article again, now whats today`s date again.

apophis

jimmad

domeld wrote: »

Hi guys,

I have sad news. I got info that whole vectoring deploy has been suspended.
Huaweii discovered bug in switch firmware which is allowing to have a remote access to switch in cabinet.
They have to roll back all of upgraded cabinet already - as far as I know they will be start this night.

This is very said, I was so excited to get 100 Mb bb at home

Move along, nothing to see here.

jca

domeld wrote: »

Hi guys,

I have sad news. I got info that whole vectoring deploy has been suspended.
Huaweii discovered bug in switch firmware which is allowing to have a remote access to switch in cabinet.
They have to roll back all of upgraded cabinet already - as far as I know they will be start this night.

This is very said, I was so excited to get 100 Mb bb at home

This post reads like one of those bank of Ireland 365 phishing email's. ... April fool.

AlanS181824

fat-tony wrote: »

Unless you are trying to run a website from a home server or are involved in peer-to-peer sharing why do you need high bandwidth upload?

I don't run a server or anything of the sort, the more upload the merrier and it seems the lines can handle it so why not an increase?

AlanS181824

domeld wrote: »

Hi guys,

I have sad news. I got info that whole vectoring deploy has been suspended.
Huaweii discovered bug in switch firmware which is allowing to have a remote access to switch in cabinet.
They have to roll back all of upgraded cabinet already - as far as I know they will be start this night.

This is very said, I was so excited to get 100 Mb bb at home

Ah I hope you're just joking for some 1/4 joke.

Can't believe it....

OneEightSeven

If Google Fiber won't allow its residential customers to run a server with their gigabit (1000Mb) upload availability, I highly doubt Eircom would appreciate it.

SpaceTime

Any further cabinets go live this weekend? I still seem to be unvectored.

ED E

OneEightSeven wrote: »

If Google Fiber won't allow its residential customers to run a server with their gigabit (1000Mb) upload availability, I highly doubt Eircom would appreciate it.

They changed TOS recently, you can run non commercial servers with it no problem. Just no financial gain.

Cork981

SpaceTime wrote: »

Any further cabinets go live this weekend? I still seem to be unvectored.

I've read that they will start mass updating then from tonight.

100's being updated per night.

Bk and arctan seem to have the most information about this.

OneEightSeven

Keep an eye on Net Index and see how much we ascend over the next few weeks: http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/. 43rd at the moment.

We've made some serious progress in the last 10/11 months.

AlanS181824

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Keep an eye on Net Index and see how much we ascend over the next few weeks: http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/. 43rd at the moment.

We've made some serious progress in the last 10/11 months.

I'll keep an eye on that, thanks!

domeld

Vectoring enabled in Waterford on O'Connell Street.

SpaceTime

No change here on my cabinet in the Wellington Road Exchange area in Cork.

Anyone in Cork City vectored yet?

Nonoperational

SpaceTime wrote: »

No change here on my cabinet in the Wellington Road Exchange area in Cork.

Anyone in Cork City vectored yet?

Still waiting in Cork

GIMickey

Letterkenny is a bit slow aswell. I have look at 6 different cabinets from my friends modems and nothing yet.

Hopefully soon

GLCC

How can somebody tell if the cabinet they are connected has been enabled ?

bk

OneEightSeven wrote: »

Keep an eye on Net Index and see how much we ascend over the next few weeks: http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/. 43rd at the moment.

We've made some serious progress in the last 10/11 months.

Things are definitely improving, but do remember that so far only 100,000 people have signed up for VDSL so far out if 1.2 million potential Eircom wholesale customers.

Add to that about 350,000 UPC customers and the reality is the vast majority of people (450,000 out of 1.6 million homes) are still on slow ADSL broadband.

So there is a long way to go yet for these figures to be bumped.