2014 Free Agency

Tristram

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

When he took himself out of the AFC title game for a little knock and then stood around on the sideline for the rest of the game. I had a gut feeling his priorities lay elsewhere. Absolutely stupid money to pay for a guy who will miss 4-6 games a season. One of the most ridiculously priced CB markets I can remember for along time.

Great signing in terms of what he brings as a top quality player. Tend to agree with Corvus that it doesn't represent good value financially. But I guess if you have the cap space more power to you. Will that count as 4-5 million a year in cap for the Broncos?

adrian522

Jonathan Martin to the 49ers for a conditional 7th round pick.

davyjose

adrian522 wrote: »

Jonathan Martin to the 49ers for a conditional 7th round pick.

I was thinking Indy (high Stanford contingent), or SF (Harbaugh) would be one of the two to pick him up. We need linemen, but it's hard to see him as anything but a mediocre lineman who'll be a distraction.

davyjose

Very happy with Indy's FA so far. Kept the guys we needed to keep, got a few nice pickups. Arthur Jones will be a significant upgrade to our D-line, and DQ a significant upgrade to our D. A solid Free Safety, and we'll automatically be a much better Defense. Not too worried about the Offense, just need to stay healthy there, and maybe grab a center and a receiver.

Rock Lesnar

Donald Brown to the Chargers, if he can reproduce his form from last season in Indy, hes a good signing for them.

adrian522

davyjose wrote: »

I was thinking Indy (high Stanford contingent), or SF (Harbaugh) would be one of the two to pick him up. We need linemen, but it's hard to see him as anything but a mediocre lineman who'll be a distraction.

Decent pickup I think, 2015 7th rounder only becomes effective if he makes the week 1 roster. He'll be backup to Davis/Staley I'd imagine.

Jolly Red Giant

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

When he took himself out of the AFC title game for a little knock and then stood around on the sideline for the rest of the game. I had a gut feeling his priorities lay elsewhere. Absolutely stupid money to pay for a guy who will miss 4-6 games a season. One of the most ridiculously priced CB markets I can remember for along time.

I agree - the CB market has gone off the charts. It started with some teams paying big money for mediocre players.

I think the Broncos overpaid and Elway does like to gamble. Saying that - Elway obviously decided that the Broncos secondary needed to get more physical - signing Ward and Talib does just that. Apparently DRC wanted the same money as Talib and I would take Talib's physicality and injury concerns over DRC's softness and where his head is at (remember his claim he would retire before the SB).

This is one of those - high risk, high reward - type of signings. So far Elway has won the gambles he has taken.

It also appears that Ware is visiting Denver today with the expectation that he will sign before leaving.

adrian522

Pretty bad from the Saints that Sproles needs to find out about this on Twitter...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000333199/article/saints-now-believe-they-can-trade-darren-sproles

helimachoptor

Not sure whats happened with the CB market

4 year 25.5 million with 14 mill guaranteed for a 25 year old CB.. is what Verner got.

Titans FO assumed they'd be blown out by other offers, when they seen the size of the offer on the table, Verner said he didnt feel the love and signed with the Buccs :mad:

Alfred Borden

Broncos favourites to get Ware now too, their defense is going to be so improved.

phatkev

can someone on here explain to me how the Saints can managed to sign Jairus Byrd, i thought they were pretty tight in terms of cap space.

taidghbaby

phatkev wrote: »

can someone on here explain to me how the Saints can managed to sign Jairus Byrd, i thought they were pretty tight in terms of cap space.

Big guarantee over 6 years and an $11 million signing bonus where the cap hit is split over the contract.....I think!
Only a small cap hit this year!

(I could be wrong!)

SameOleJay

Yup, only 4 mill in the first year per what I’ve read.

I think the end-game here could be relinquishing Graham. Otherwise they’ll just be too top heavy.

eagle eye

Jarius Byrd is a fantastic signing even at that money imo. Probably the most underrated CB in the free agent market this year. I'd have loved if the Pats had got him but that was always highly unlikely.

phatkev

Kenny Vaccaro and Jarius Byrd in the same secondary could be scary! Rob Ryan will be having a field day

TJ Mackie

eagle eye wrote: »

Jarius Byrd is a fantastic signing even at that money imo. Probably the most underrated CB in the free agent market this year. I'd have loved if the Pats had got him but that was always highly unlikely.

He's not a CB? And by all accounts, he was pegged as the top rated free agent safety so hardly under-rated.

Himself and Vaccaro could be a great safety duo, and if they put a good starting CB opposite Keenan Lewis, they could suddenly have the best young secondary in the league.

TO.

TJ Mackie wrote: »

He's not a CB? And by all accounts, he was pegged as the top rated free agent safety so hardly under-rated.

He played as a CB in college but moved to FS in the Pros. But by all accounts these days he is a class FS.

helimachoptor

TO.

helimachoptor wrote: »

Titans have signed Demarcus Ware

I would take wiki with a pinch of salt until a real source confirms.

helimachoptor

Yeah it was tweeted as a joke by one of the titans writers, one can hope!

Red Crow

Schefter says he's in Denver today. Are Denver not going to be in trouble with all these contracts?

Mortgage into the future for one big last push for a SB with Manning?

TO.

helimachoptor wrote: »

Yeah it was tweeted as a joke by one of the titans writers, one can hope!

Thought so My joke sarcasm meter is fooked today.

Id say the lure of Denver will be too much for him. Any player that is approached by Denver right now would be mad to turn them down if they want to win a bowl.

TO.

Red Crow wrote: »

Schefter says he's in Denver today. Are Denver not going to be in trouble with all these contracts?

Mortgage into the future for one big last push for a SB with Manning?

They had had 27m after cutting Champ. Id say Talib was minimal monies in his first year of the 6 years. So of the 56m probably 7ish. TJ Ward is 4 years 23m so probably the same as Talib so id say so far they are just under 50% of their cap right now.

TO.

TO. wrote: »

He played as a CB in college but moved to FS in the Pros. But by all accounts these days he is a class FS.

what he was in college is irrelevant hes a great fs and in no way underrated by anyone whos into there football hes been arguably the top fs in the league over the last 4-5 years.

TO.

Jaziel Orange Padding wrote: »

what he was in college is irrelevant hes a great fs and in no way underrated by anyone whos into there football hes been arguably the top fs in the league over the last 4-5 years.

I never said it was relevent but I was pointing out he can play as a CB was a CB at some point. I also have no idea what angle EE was taking so maybe take it up with him. I also did say he is a class FS. I also never said he was underrated.

spiralism

Red Crow wrote: »

Schefter says he's in Denver today. Are Denver not going to be in trouble with all these contracts?

Mortgage into the future for one big last push for a SB with Manning?

Denver beat writers on twitter expecting the team has 15 m to play with at the moment. We're also reportedly interested in Daryl Smith and Jon Beason

Knex*

Leave Beason alone, ye bastids!

spiralism

Knex. wrote: »

Leave Beason alone, ye bastids!

Dont worry, if we sign Ware we won't be able to afford either unless they want to take a cutprice deal for a title shot but the Giants and Ravens are about as far from a Super Bowl title as we are as things stand so it'd be stupid on their part.

Red Crow

spiralism wrote: »

Dont worry, if we sign Ware we won't be able to afford either unless they want to take a cutprice deal for a title shot but the Giants and Ravens are about as far from a Super Bowl title as we are as things stand so it'd be stupid on their part.

I think the Broncos are still a good bit ahead of the Ravens and the Giants. I'd say some players will take a lesser deal to sign with the Broncos but probably not Beason. He's apparently looking for big money with most of it guarenteed!

spiralism

Red Crow wrote: »

I think the Broncos are still a good bit ahead of the Ravens and the Giants. I'd say some players will take a lesser deal to sign with the Broncos but probably not Beason. He's apparently looking for big money with most of it guarenteed!

Nah, both have good coaches and can turn it around quickly enough, they've won two of the last three Superbowls after all. There's no evidence the Broncos can but that's another discussion imo and don't want to derail this.

Would be surprised if we land either though, both are on contenders already so them moving is a money move and they wont get it at Denver, we're offering something different.

Alfred Borden

Colts and Davis were discussing 7 million per year but changed when the Shields deal came out :mad: has to be the most annoying move of the offseason totally inflated the market

Knex*

I know it won't happen, but hate the way teams and players straight away cave in to inflation. Its not like Packers can buy every CB at stupid salaries.

taidghbaby

Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman are free agents next year! Good luck with that Seattle!

spiralism

@mikefreemanNFL: Ware is in Denver to basically sign a deal. He won't leave without one.

Looks good there already..

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

The #Giants and Jon Beason have agreed to a new deal, according to @AKinkhabwala.

Called it.

Rock Lesnar

Looks like a 3 yr $30m deal with $20m guaranteed for Ware in Denver

me89

Ware to Broncos, 3 year 30million(20 guaranteed) pending physical.

helimachoptor

jesus, massive massive money

spiralism

10m a year is too expensive, we'll have to let anyone else walk now and barely have enough left over to sign rookies

Signs are there - Elway is panicking. Two serious overpayments in a day

Mind you, i do love that we got those players but the contracts are massive

frostie500

If I was a Broncos fan I'd be happy with 10m a year for Ware. He struggled last year as a DE so put him back as an OBL and he'll be fine. He was beat up last year, maybe because of aging, but he's worth a risk considering he's the best pass rusher of the last ten years.

helimachoptor

Al Woods (DE) from the Steelers has signed for the Titans.. i know nothing about him

eagle eye

TJ Mackie wrote: »

He's not a CB? And by all accounts, he was pegged as the top rated free agent safety so hardly under-rated.

Himself and Vaccaro could be a great safety duo, and if they put a good starting CB opposite Keenan Lewis, they could suddenly have the best young secondary in the league.

Just mistyped, meant to say DB.

spiralism

frostie500 wrote: »

If I was a Broncos fan I'd be happy with 10m a year for Ware. He struggled last year as a DE so put him back as an OBL and he'll be fine. He was beat up last year, maybe because of aging, but he's worth a risk considering he's the best pass rusher of the last ten years.

Denver run a 4-3 so that's the same problem again. Worse is that we had Jared Allen offered a third of that then pulled the offer to blow it on Ware.

frostie500

spiralism wrote: »

Denver run a 4-3 so that's the same problem again. Worse is that we had Jared Allen offered a third of that then pulled the offer to blow it on Ware.

Ah right, thought it was a 3-4 with Ware and Miller as the two OLBs

SameOleJay

2 years 10 mill for Josh McCown at the Bucs.

Great lad, best of luck to him but crazy money.

helimachoptor

SameOleJay wrote: »

2 years 10 mill for Josh McCown at the Bucs.

Great lad, best of luck to him but crazy money.

This extra 10 million of cap space has sent GMs into orbit tbh

Red Crow

10m for Ware is stupid money IMO. Thank Christ we won't have to see him twice a year anymore though. Always played well against us

TJ Mackie

Every other GM on John Elway...

Oat23

SameOleJay wrote: »

2 years 10 mill for Josh McCown at the Bucs.

Great lad, best of luck to him but crazy money.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Glennon starting should the Bucs come to Chicago anytime after October. He is a nice guy and was always behind Cutler even when he was playing great and people were calling for him to start, so I wish him all the best. But he isn't going to be anywhere near as good without Marshall/Alshon/Unicorn and Trest.

TJ Mackie

Seems to me like the Buccaneers spend a lot of money on well known players every free agency these days, and have little to show for it.

TJ Mackie

Revis officially released.