Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod Warning: Post #7871

Deiseboy01

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Please explain how Fellaini is worth 28m? I just can't see it. As a defensive midfield player he's too slow over five yards. Doesn't get close enough to his opposition player. Fouls excessively. Is not a great passer. Does not control the tempo of the game. I'm struggling to see what he does well other than grow hair.

onemorechance

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Closer to 100 if in charge

I don't see what would cause him to be sacked or him quitting before next season.

Already out of title race. Pretty much out of 4th spot race. High chance of being out of CL to the easiest team they could have been drawn against. They have even planned for no Europa League with big-money friendlies.

Losing by some huge scores, or losing more than 50% of the remaining games?

Lord TSC

No

My attitude with Fel was always that had Fergie bought him, I'd have been thrilled. Going into the summer, he was one of my top midfielder targets; a good age, PL proven, and a donkey of a player. Yes, he wasn't a creative force, but then he wasn't bought for that reason, and Moyes should never have let it come across as an alternative when Fabregas didn't work out.

To me, such a fee makes sense when we're talking about a player who is 26, tied down to a contract at Everton, a club who didn't want to let him go (cause he was their best, most iconic player for a season or two) in a position that United were desperate for, to a manager who was snooping round his old club, in the current economic climate where all prices are inflated.

I think you put him beside a creative force player and a strong partnership could blossom.

yermandan

Deiseboy01

Bannerman7 wrote: »

How about this line up for next season (4- 2- 3 -1)
De Gea
Coleman Jones Managal Shaw
Kroos Carvalho
Reus Gundogan Januzaj
Rooney

What did Mata do to deserve being dropped?

Your Airbag

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

What did Mata do to deserve being dropped?

Not enough crosses in training.

DARK-KNIGHT

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

I don't think he's worth 37 million pounds. You do.

End of discussion.

Imo we got mata at a steal price for the calibre of footballer he is and fact are chelsea are huge rivals i reckon we got him cheap... and whats your beef with my man afro? He has been injured he will be a good player for us no doubt...

Rayne Wooney

Fellaini scored for Belgium

Hococop

No

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Fellaini scored for Belgium

wait for the response "its only the Ivory Coast" :rolleyes:

Dicky Pride

No

We went to Dubai during the last break...they could have gone to the moon during this one.

Peter Flynt

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Imo we got mata at a steal price for the calibre of footballer he is and fact are chelsea are huge rivals i reckon we got him cheap... and whats your beef with my man afro? He has been injured he will be a good player for us no doubt...

F**k me. . . 37 million pounds is a steal?

:pac:

Peter Flynt

Hococop wrote: »

wait for the response "its only the Ivory Coast" :rolleyes:

How about. . "It's only a meaningless friendly"?

Rayne Wooney

You could make a good argument for Mata being the best player, at least one of the best, over the past two seasons playing for an English club, he was vital in both of Chelsea's European cup winning campaigns and did very well in the goals/assists department in the league considering Torres was leading the line, 18 goals and 25 assists in 60 games.

37m is what you pay for a player of his quality, I'd say he could have gone for more if he hadn't been sitting on the bench 6 months and wasn't trying to force the move.

Lord TSC

No

Yeap, 6 months earlier and I'd think you'd have been paying 60m for him.

38m is a lot of money, but in the context of football, with the player involved, it really wasn't as much as it could have been.

bucketybuck

No

Juan Mata is worth £37m, little doubt about that in todays market.

But we did not need him, and while £37m was being spent on Juan Mata two areas of the side desperately in need of strengthening were once again ignored.

Hococop

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

F**k me. . . 37 million pounds is a steal?

:pac:

Yeah i think we got a great deal, hell I believe Real Madrid got Ronaldo for a steal when you look at what he has done for them

spiralism

No

37 mill considering the player Mata has been to date in his career...that's a steal, an absolute ****ing steal in all fairness. Considering we got out of that with Mata and not having to send Rooney the other way, the club deserves some credit for that.

Peter Flynt

Hococop wrote: »

Yeah i think we got a great deal, hell I believe Real Madrid got Ronaldo for a steal when you look at what he has done for them

United got an even bigger steal from Sporting Lisbon.

Lord TSC

No

bucketybuck wrote: »

Juan Mata is worth £37m, little doubt about that in todays market.

But we did not need him, and while £37m was being spent on Juan Mata two areas of the side desperately in need of strengthening were once again ignored.

I've not seen a single piece of evidence to suggest that it was one or the other tbh. We keep hearing about the warchests of 100s of millions that Moyes has, so I don't agree with the idea that it was 37m that stopped us buying other players.

bucketybuck

No

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I've not seen a single piece of evidence to suggest that it was one or the other tbh. We keep hearing about the warchests of 100s of millions that Moyes has, so I don't agree with the idea that it was 37m that stopped us buying other players.

Be that as it may, the fact is that we bought a player we did not need and yet again neglected to deal with terminal problems in other areas of the team.

The_Kew_Tour

No

Poor Evra tonight. That looked sore

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Poor Evra tonight. That looked sore

What happened?

The_Kew_Tour

No

M!Ck^ wrote: »

What happened?

Full studs into the face.

Link http://balls.ie/football/vine-patrice-evra-gets-studs-face-netherlands/

Courtesy Flush

No

spiralism wrote: »

37 mill considering the player Mata has been to date in his career...that's a steal, an absolute ****ing steal in all fairness. Considering we got out of that with Mata and not having to send Rooney the other way, the club deserves some credit for that.

His best position is the same as Rooneys so its a slightly odd point

Peter Flynt

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Full studs into the face.

Link http://balls.ie/football/vine-patrice-evra-gets-studs-face-netherlands/

That's a sending off and the dutch player didn't even get booked.

Rayne Wooney

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

His best position is the same as Rooneys so its a slightly odd point

What?

Lord TSC

No

bucketybuck wrote: »

Be that as it may, the fact is that we bought a player we did not need and yet again neglected to deal with terminal problems in other areas of the team.

But those two facts aren't correlated at all. At least in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I do agree. Just saying your original post seemed to try to paint them as "A happened so B couldn't", which doesn't look to be the case.

bmcc10

Watching bits of Lallana again tonight anyone think he'd be good enough for a top team? Lovely player to watch,

brinty

Bannerman7 wrote: »

How about this line up for next season (4- 2- 3 -1)
De Gea
Coleman Jones Managal Shaw
Kroos Carvalho
Reus Gundogan Januzaj
Rooney

get back to playing FM 2014 and cheating like fcuk

Coleman 15-20 m
Mangala > 30m
Shaw 15 > 20m
Kroos > 30 - 40m
Carvalho > 20m
Reus > 30m
Gundogan > 20m

That's 160m at a conservative estimate to spend plus an extra 1m + in wages a week

Are you kidding me..

if this comes of i'll....agh forget it..

The_Kew_Tour

No

Coleman was awful tonight. Only 1 game, but I cant imagine him getting sympathy from United fans if he made those mistakes at OT.

Y2KBOS86

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

His best position is the same as Rooneys so its a slightly odd point

Mata is better than Rooney in that position and Van Persie is better than Rooney up front.

England tonight had the same problem with Rooney.He was useless as usual for them.

Making him captain will be the end of Moyes.

irishfeen

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Coleman was awful tonight. Only 1 game, but I cant imagine him getting sympathy from United fans if he made those mistakes at OT.

To be fair in the second half not one of them can hold their heads up high - poor night all round.

Mikeyt086

No

brinty wrote: »

get back to playing FM 2014 and cheating like fcuk

Coleman 15-20 m
Mangala > 30m
Shaw 15 > 20m
Kroos > 30 - 40m
Carvalho > 20m
Reus > 30m
Gundogan > 20m

That's 160m at a conservative estimate to spend plus an extra 1m + in wages a week

Are you kidding me..

if this comes of i'll....agh forget it..

Decent go at the prices man.

Neeson

No

Cattermole

Bannerman7

No

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

What did Mata do to deserve being dropped?

Maybe you can post your Utd dream team incl Mata ? :cool:

Liam O

Bannerman7 wrote: »

Maybe you can post your Utd dream team incl Mata ? :cool:

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Schmeichel

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Mata-Stam-Evans-Buttner
Ronaldo-Rooney-Januzaj-Kagawa

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Cantona

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Pique

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tallaghtmick

No

Slow day its 10.22 and there's no bickering going on yet :pac:

Mitch Connor

No

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Slow day its 10.22 and there's no bickering going on yet :pac:

Shut yer mouth! Carrick is a worldie.

patmac

No

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Slow day its 10.22 and there's no bickering going on yet :pac:

I wish they'd hurry up and sack Moyes, so I can bitch about how they should have given him more time.

IamtheWalrus

No top 15 player in the world will ever play for Man Utd again. I've accepted this fact.

DARK-KNIGHT

No

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

No top 15 player in the world will ever play for Man Utd again. I've accepted this fact.

Surely you are messing if you are serious....

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

IamtheWalrus

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Surely you are messing if you are serious....

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Serious. The best modern day footballer will not want to live in Manchester.

Giggsy11

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Serious. The best modern day footballer will not want to live in Manchester.

Why not. Throw enough wages and they will live happily in Manchester.

SherlockWatson

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Serious. The best modern day footballer will not want to live in Manchester.

Ageuro doesn't seem to have any problems, nor Yaya.

IamtheWalrus

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Serious. The best modern day footballer will not want to live in Manchester.

Manchester isn't exactly athlone

IamtheWalrus

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Ageuro doesn't seem to have any problems, nor Yaya.

Not in the Luis Figo category though are they.

Deiseboy01

Bannerman7 wrote: »

Maybe you can post your Utd dream team incl Mata ? :cool:

Not dream more realistic

De Gea
Raf Vertonghen Jones Shaw
Nani Carrick/Fellaini Kroos Jan
Mata
RVP

Manager Carlo Ancellotti

bangkok

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Not in the Luis Figo category though are they.

your not serious are you?? aguero and yaya are world class...would love them both in the united team. Aguero probably my favourite non man utd player in the prem league

bangkok

Deiseboy01 wrote: »

Not dream more realistic

De Gea
Raf Vertonghen Jones Shaw
Nani Carrick/Fellaini Kroos Jan
Mata
RVP

Manager Carlo Ancellotti

wheres rooney?? :eek::eek::eek:

Whatsisname

No

Why is Januzaj continually being put in peoples dream line ups?