Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod Warning: Post #7871

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

The referee probably should have sent him off if he deemed it a foul, which he did but replay showed he got the ball first so it turned out to be the correct decision not to card him.

Doesn't matter if he got the ball first.

It was a dangerous challenge and worthy of a yellow card.

irishfeen

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Nah, I'm right and that's just the way it is OK?!!

Get out of it :pac:

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Doesn't matter if he got the ball first.

It was a dangerous challenge and worthy of a yellow card.

It wasn't dangerous, if it was he would have got a straight red.
I don't hear anybody going on about the two over the top challenges by West Brom players...
If United should have been down to 10, they should have been down to 9.

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

It wasn't dangerous, if it was he would have got a straight red.
I don't hear anybody going on about the two over the top challenges by West Brom players...
If United should have been down to 10, they should have been down to 9.

I didn't see anything particularly dangerous from WBA players. . . besides since when do two wrongs make a right?

We're discussing Van Persie here.

It was a challenge that was worthy of a second yellow card.

This "he got the ball first" lark is irrelevant. Getting the ball does not automatically excuse a poor challenge and nowhere in the laws of the game is this allowed as an excuse for a terrible challenge.

He'd already been booked and he was throwing himself into tackles like that when Man U were 2 Up.

PhlegmyMoses

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Doesn't matter if he got the ball first.

It was a dangerous challenge and worthy of a yellow card.

Would you go away out of that. It wasn't dangerous.

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

I didn't see anything particularly dangerous from WBA players. . . besides since when do two wrongs make a right?

We're discussing Van Persie here.

It was a challenge that was worthy of a second yellow card.

This "he got the ball first" lark is irrelevant. Getting the ball does not automatically excuse a poor challenge and nowhere in the laws of the game is this allowed as an excuse for a terrible challenge.

He'd already been booked and he was throwing himself into tackles like that when Man U were 2 Up.

He wasn't on the pitch when they were 2 up. It wasn't dangerous IMO, genuine attempt to win the ball back. It was still stupid of him to give the opportunity to the ref either way and was rightly hauled off.

There was 2 W Brom players that went over the top of the ball with studs into the ankle of Januzaj and I think the other was Mata.

Pro. F

No

Will I Amnt wrote: »

The referee probably should have sent him off if he deemed it a foul, which he did but replay showed he got the ball first so it turned out to be the correct decision not to card him.

It was a good tackle from what I saw. Not that getting the ball makes a bad tackle okay, but it was a good tackle to begin with.

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

He wasn't on the pitch when they were 2 up. It wasn't dangerous IMO, genuine attempt to win the ball back. It was still stupid of him to give the opportunity to the ref either way and was rightly hauled off.

There was 2 W Brom players that went over the top of the ball with studs into the ankle of Januzaj and I think the other was Mata.

Watching that second tackle going on I felt that he was looking to get himself sent off.

Being a Dutch prima donna he wouldn't be far from petulance, stupidity and downright childishness.

He's been moaning a lot recently.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Moyes sell him in the summer.

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Watching that second tackle going on I felt that he was looking to get himself sent off.

Being a Dutch prima donna he wouldn't be far from petulance, stupidity and downright childishness.

He's been moaning a lot recently.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Moyes sell him in the summer.

What has being Dutch got to do with anything?

Peter Flynt

Pro. F wrote: »

It was a good tackle from what I saw. Not that getting the ball makes a bad tackle okay, but it was a good tackle to begin with.

It was a two footed sliding tackle that cleaned Stephen Reid out of it.

it was a definite second yellow. . . Take off the blinkers.

So this clear-out of playing staff that has been long reported and somewhat overdue, am I the only one who can see mainly quality players leaving us this summer?

RVP, Kagawa, Chico, Vidic. The last definitely gone, the first 3 looking more likely the closer it gets to Summer. I also believe that if Luis Nani were around to be found, he would also be shipped out.

Seriously, about Nani, I think a move was on the cards for him in January, but a genuine injury did hold up the deal. Now though, he is being kept out 'injured' so as to make sure nothing will stall any deal once the transfer window reopens.

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

What has being Dutch got to do with anything?

I'm sure you're aware that Dutch players have been infamously "opinionated" down through the years.

Virtually every major tournament they attend has rumours or reports of discontent in the camp or different cliques within the same squad.

Mars Bar

It wasn't two footed! He didn't even leave a trailing leg. His momentum carried him through and the WBA got knocked over.

RasTa

No

Who cares!

PhlegmyMoses

Mars Bar wrote: »

It wasn't two footed! He didn't even leave a trailing leg. His momentum carried him through and the WBA got knocked over.

Exactly. I'm continually baffled how people can see incidents in sports in such different ways.

Peter Flynt

RasTa wrote: »

Who cares!

Well Van Persie certainly doesn't at this stage.

It's clear he wants out.

Next few months will be interesting.

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

It was a two footed sliding tackle that cleaned Stephen Reid out of it.

it was a definite second yellow. . . Take off the blinkers.

It's hard to take you seriously when you're remembering what you want to have happened and not what actually happened.

RasTa

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Well Van Persie certainly doesn't at this stage.

It's clear he wants out.

Next few months will be interesting.

No, it's not clear.

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

It's hard to take you seriously when you're remembering what you want to have happened and not what actually happened.

If that had been Suarez you'd be agreeing with me.

You're the one with the blinkers on.

It's all over the media

Just three minutes after Van Persie was booked for a tackle from behind on Morgan Amalfitano, the Manchester United striker took out Steven Reid with a two-footed sliding tackle.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-brom-0-manchester-united-3-pepe-mel-fumes-over-referee-jon-mosss-decision-not-to-sendoff-robin-van-persie-9178789.html

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

If that had been Suarez you'd be agreeing with me.

You're the one with the blinkers on.

It's all over the media



http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-brom-0-manchester-united-3-pepe-mel-fumes-over-referee-jon-mosss-decision-not-to-sendoff-robin-van-persie-9178789.html

How about watching the tackle again. Sounds to me like you're just regurgitating other people's opinion.

No

Nice to see Sunderland having a bad week, well done Brucie!

Cantona's Collars

Looks like the new kit deal is finalised,£60 million a year for 10 years from Nike,along with the £35 million a year from Chevrolet,that's a tidy sum rolling in.

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

How about watching the tackle again. Sounds to me like you're just regurgitating other people's opinion.

Nah. . I saw what I saw.

A weak referee who hadn't the balls to send off VP after a two footed terrible tackle.

I'd say Moyes would agree . . .as he hauled him off shortly afterwards.

SherlockWatson

Peter Flynt wrote: »

I'm sure you're aware that Dutch players have been infamously "opinionated" down through the years.

Virtually every major tournament they attend has rumours or reports of discontent in the camp or different cliques within the same squad.

Clueless.


Absolutely Clueless.

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Nah. . I saw what I saw.

A weak referee who hadn't the balls to send off VP after a two footed terrible tackle.

Lol. The hyperbole is in full flow with you today.

Peter Flynt

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Clueless.


Absolutely Clueless.

Is this supposed to constitute an argument?

Your hero is sticking his two fingers up to Man U.

Is that clueless?

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Is this supposed to constitute an argument?

Your hero is sticking his two fingers up to Man U.

Is that clueless?

Stop spouting rubbish.

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Lol. The hyperbole is in full flow with you today.

Yea well.

I'm sure Van Persie will be delighted with your support of him. :rolleyes:

SherlockWatson

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Is this supposed to constitute an argument?

Your hero is sticking his two fingers up to Man U.

Is that clueless?

What are you ****ing on about?

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Stop spouting rubbish.

He'll be off shortly . . . Don't worry about that.

Cantona's Collars

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Nah. . I saw what I saw.

A weak referee who hadn't the balls to send off VP after a two footed terrible tackle.

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He got the ball first,when I saw it in real time I even thought it wasn't a great tackle,the replay showed otherwise.Had a centre half done it,we'd be applauding him for a good hard tackle.I don't understand why you have a bee in your bonnet over it??

Peter Flynt

SherlockWatson wrote: »

What are you ****ing on about?

I'm waiting for an argument that goes beyond "clueless"

Peter Flynt

zerks wrote: »

He got the ball first,when I saw it in real time I even thought it wasn't a great tackle,the replay showed otherwise.Had a centre half done it,we'd be applauding him for a good hard tackle.I don't understand why you have a bee in your bonnet over it??

Because he should have been sent off.

It wouldn't have made much difference to the result as WBA were hopeless.

Fair play to Moyes for spotting that he needed substituting immediately - which he did (replacing him with Welbeck).

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

I'm waiting for an argument that goes beyond "clueless"

Then don't act clueless...

Peter Flynt

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Then don't act clueless...

So anyone who doesn't agree with you over Man U is clueless?

Close down the thread so.

Agueroooo

Don't know if you guys are arsed about Europa or not, but with City and Arsenal drawing each other in the semi's of the FA Cup, then 7th place will not be allocated a Europa place this season.

SherlockWatson

Peter Flynt wrote: »

So anyone who doesn't agree with you over Man U is clueless?

Close down the thread so.

Its more to do with your ridiculous hypothesis that RVP is opinionated because he is Dutch.

Nothing to do with Man Utd tbh, I doubt anyone is taking your trollollolling seriously anyway, so enjoy and have a pleasant Sunday buddy.

Cantona's Collars

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Because he should have been sent off.

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Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

So anyone who doesn't agree with you over Man U is clueless?

Close down the thread so.

I didn't say anything of the sort.

Cantona's Collars

Agueroooo wrote: »

Don't know if you guys are arsed about Europa or not, but with City and Arsenal drawing each other in the semi's of the FA Cup, then 7th place will not be allocated a Europa place this season.

Nah,haven't you heard - we are getting 4th place:pac:

Anything to avoid having to watch 3e.

Hococop

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

So anyone who doesn't agree with you over Man U is clueless?

Close down the thread so.

and anyone who doesn't agree with you is nothing but a blind united fanboy in your eyes

Peter Flynt

SherlockWatson wrote: »

Its more to do with your ridiculous hypothesis that RVP is opinionated because he is Dutch.

Nothing to do with Man Utd tbh, I doubt anyone is taking your trollollolling seriously anyway, so enjoy and have a pleasant Sunday buddy.

Well he was very opinionated about the performances of his team mates after the Olympiakos defeat. . . Moaning about others "invading his space".

Agueroooo

Peter&Paul .

Legends of both opposing super threads

mewe

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

A weak referee who hadn't the balls to send off VP after a two footed terrible tackle.

He could have been killed!!!

Pro. F

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

It was a two footed sliding tackle that cleaned Stephen Reid out of it.

it was a definite second yellow. . . Take off the blinkers.

I don't think you care about making sense in this discussion, so I'm going to leave you off making yourself look foolish.

Headshot

No

I just got a big grin on my face

tallaghtmick

No

Headshot wrote: »

I just got a big grin on my face

Where her boobies nice?

Vic Vinegar

Wigan, you beauty!

Lord TSC

No

I don't want RVP gone. And I, again, worry that the wrong players seem to be getting linked away and the wrong ones staying, which should be setting alarm bells off in the heads of the remaining Pro-Moyes group.

But if Moyes is staying, and there is trouble with RVP, then RVP should be moved on over the summer. Not that i want him gone, but if the manager has a problem with a player, then the player should be removed from the equation. No one man is bigger than the club.

Sadly, I just think it's the wrong man being removed, but there you go...

J. Marston

No

Well done, Wigan.