Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod Warning: Post #7871

Schwiiing

n32 wrote: »

As some posters alluded to already its very worrying to see how the shape of the squad is developing for next season. At the moment Vidic is definitely gone, Chico looks like he could be gone, Kagawa would be mad not to want to go, Nani is probably off and possibly RVP could be off. Meanwhile CLeverley gets a new deal! What has Moyes been watching this season . Cleverley is not up to standard and should be shown the door. I ve an awful feeling we re going to have clear out of the wrong type this summer and be left with the same rubbish that we ve had all season

Evra and Rio aswell.

Kylo Ren

s.welstead wrote: »

It's the bloody poll. If you vote it breaks view first unread except on mobile.

Bloody Polls. Coming in here, taking our 'View First Unread' abilities away...

Pro. F

No

s.welstead wrote: »

It's the bloody poll. If you vote it breaks view first unread except on mobile.

I voted on the poll and I'm not having that problem.

irishfeen

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

I don't know and maybe I'm just being stupid but if we got beat pool and city I just have this feeling we will somehow get 4th... call me crazy

NTMK

n32 wrote: »

As some posters alluded to already its very worrying to see how the shape of the squad is developing for next season. At the moment Vidic is definitely gone, Chico looks like he could be gone, Kagawa would be mad not to want to go, Nani is probably off and possibly RVP could be off. Meanwhile CLeverley gets a new deal! What has Moyes been watching this season . Cleverley is not up to standard and should be shown the door. I ve an awful feeling we re going to have clear out of the wrong type this summer and be left with the same rubbish that we ve had all season

tbh,
Vidic is past his best, as is rio and evra imo
Im suprissed chico didnt leave already
Nani hasnt played much
where do you play Kagawa?

as much as people bemoan Cleverley getting a new deal youre not going to find a player thats content at being injury cover that isnt either inexperienced or ****. he a cheaper option

Peter Flynt

Former PL referee Graham Poll believes that Van Persie should have been sent off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2576941/GRAHAM-POLL-Manchester-United-pair-Marouanne-Fellaini-Robin-van-Persie-sent-off.html#ixzz2vVblzJ4m

van Persie should have been sent off by Jon Moss for a rash tackle on Steven Reid just a few minutes after he had been correctly cautioned. The Dutchman knew he was in trouble; he jumped up insisting that he had played the ball. He had but was certainly not in control of his forward motion and the follow through wiped Reid out.
Had he not made contact with the ball he should have had a straight red card, as he did, a yellow card was appropriate and therefore a red for a second cautionable offence.

Hard to disagree with that

Red Crow

Everyone in this side is expendable bar maybe De Gea - RVP included. The best 20 minutes we've seen this year has been when he was subbed on Saturday. He's a great player but he's had a mixed bag of injuries and poor form this season. He'll be 31 at the start of next season too. If he wants to leave then I think we should let him go.

Kerrigooney

Keno wrote: »

Off topic.

Lately, whenever I clock 'View First Unread' on this thread it bring me to the last post in the thread as opposed to the last post I had not seen.

Is this happening to anyone else and is there a fix?

I'm having the same problem. I didn't vote so it's not that and it only happens on this thread.

Ye're fairly tearing through this thread anyway so won't be a problem for much longer.

Schwiiing

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Former PL referee Graham Poll believes that Van Persie should have been sent off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2576941/GRAHAM-POLL-Manchester-United-pair-Marouanne-Fellaini-Robin-van-Persie-sent-off.html#ixzz2vVblzJ4m



Hard to disagree with that

:DThe same Graham Poll who didn't understand that 2 yellows in 1 game for Josep Simunic = A red card.

Peter Flynt

Schwiiing wrote: »

:DThe same Graham Poll who didn't understand that 2 yellows in 1 game for Josep Siunic = A red card.

Yea . . Well that's a nice piece of whataboutery there.

KombuchaMshroom

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Former PL referee Graham Poll believes that Van Persie should have been sent off.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2576941/GRAHAM-POLL-Manchester-United-pair-Marouanne-Fellaini-Robin-van-Persie-sent-off.html#ixzz2vVblzJ4m



Hard to disagree with that

Seriously, what is your obsession with trying to bring this up all day while blatantly ignoring that Foster should have been sent off much earlier

Agueroooo

Red Crow wrote: »

He'll be 31 at the start of next season too. If he wants to leave then I think we should let him go.

Again its not just a small matter of "letting him go"

Can't see Utd getting back near the £24mil fee and RVP has every right to stay and collect the ~£28mil his contract states owed over the remainder of it.

Signing such an injury prone player for big fee and wages is never a good thing, and the club/fans knew the risks, but in saying that I don't think he is finished (far from it) and lots if other players I would be looking at rather than a player who less than 12 months ago single handily played a massive role in giving you's another PL title.

Sheepy99

Agueroooo wrote: »

Again its not just a small matter of "letting him go"

Can't see Utd getting back near the £24mil fee and RVP has every right to stay and collect the ~£28mil his contract states owed over the remainder of it.

Signing such an injury prone player for big fee and wages is never a good thing, and the club/fans knew the risks, but in saying that I don't think he is finished (far from it) and lots if other players I would be looking at rather than a player who less than 12 months ago single handily played a massive role in giving you's another PL title.

The word is 'ye' good sir,
Not 'you is'

Agueroooo

Sheepy99 wrote: »

The word is 'ye' good sir,
Not 'you is'

Im a Dub.

'Ye' aint in my vocabulary

irishfeen

Agueroooo wrote: »

Im a Dub.

'Ye' aint in my vocabulary

Sorry for your troubles mate...
















:pac:

LiamoSail

Sheepy99 wrote: »

The word is 'ye' good sir,
Not 'you is'

I think 'ye' is only supposed to be used when the subject being discussed is muck, GAA, farming or badly sun burnt necks

Kylo Ren

Sheepy99 wrote: »

The word is 'ye' good sir,
Not 'you is'

"Two yutes"

High five for everyone who got the reference.

Red Crow

Agueroooo wrote: »

Again its not just a small matter of "letting him go"

Can't see Utd getting back near the £24mil fee and RVP has every right to stay and collect the ~£28mil his contract states owed over the remainder of it.

Signing such an injury prone player for big fee and wages is never a good thing, and the club/fans knew the risks, but in saying that I don't think he is finished (far from it) and lots if other players I would be looking at rather than a player who less than 12 months ago single handily played a massive role in giving you's another PL title.

Who will pick van Persie up? Maybe a Chelsea, Real Madrid, Monaco, PSG, Inter etc. We're not going to have to pay anyone to take him. He may not get £250k a week if he wants to leave but he'd probably be willing to take a hit to play in the Champions League.

irishfeen

Red Crow wrote: »

Who will pick van Persie up? Maybe a Chelsea, Real Madrid, Monaco, PSG, Inter etc. We're not going to have to pay anyone to take him. He may not get £250k a week if he wants to leave but he'd probably be willing to take a hit to play in the Champions League.

If RVP goes it will be to a club outside England...

Sheepy99

Agueroooo wrote: »

Im a Dub.

'Ye' aint in my vocabulary

Of course, only having a bit of fun :P

Agueroooo

Sheepy99 wrote: »

Of course, only having a bit of fun :P

No offence taking ye bőllox.

michael999999

No

irishfeen wrote: »

If RVP goes it will be to a club outside England...

Yep. He would never be as disloyal as to move to another prem club!

irishfeen

Agueroooo wrote: »

No offence taking ye bőllox.

No you see that "ye" is out of context - good grief man, get with the Culchie lingo

irishfeen

michael999999 wrote: »

Yep. He would never be as disloyal as to move to another prem club!

I think its the case that United would prefer to let him rot on the bench then to strengthen a direct PL opponent - deals from United to Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool etc. have been/are totally non existent over the years.

michael999999

No

irishfeen wrote: »

I think its the case that United would prefer to let him rot on the bench then to strengthen direct PL opponents - deals from United to Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool etc. have been/are totally non existent over the years.

Yep. Chelsea don't consider ye rivals at the top table, hence the mata deal.

Agueroooo

michael999999 wrote: »

Yep. He would never be as disloyal as to move to another prem club!

Rayne Wooney

michael999999 wrote: »

Yep. He would never be as disloyal as to move to another prem club!

michael999999 wrote: »

Yep. Chelsea don't consider ye rivals at the top table, hence the mata deal.

Subtlety eludes you :pac:

irishfeen

michael999999 wrote: »

Yep. Chelsea don't consider ye rivals at the top table, hence the mata deal.

Aye but maybe they are stupid enough to have forgotten that there might actually be a 2014/2015 season too....

Will I Amnt

No

michael999999 wrote: »

Yep. Chelsea don't consider ye rivals at the top table, hence the mata deal.

What has that got to do with United not selling to the clubs mentioned?

michael999999

No

irishfeen wrote: »

Aye but maybe they are stupid enough to have forgotten that there might actually be a 2014/2015 season too....

Maybe. But as you say, its unusual to sell one of your top players to another rival.

But I won't lose any sleep if it comes back to haunt chelsea!

irishfeen

michael999999 wrote: »

Maybe. But as you say, its unusual to sell one of your top players to another rival.

But I won't lose any sleep if it comes back to haunt chelsea!

...and don't you worry, come back to haunt Chelsea it will and I will enjoy every single second of it - Our day will come again!

Peter Flynt

Are MUFC going to spend £30m on Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/463921/Manchester-United-step-up-chase-for-Adam-Lallana-and-Luke-Shaw

Will I Amnt

No

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Are MUFC going to spend £30m on Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/463921/Manchester-United-step-up-chase-for-Adam-Lallana-and-Luke-Shaw

No.

onemorechance

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Are MUFC going to spend £30m on Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/463921/Manchester-United-step-up-chase-for-Adam-Lallana-and-Luke-Shaw

The Express! :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blpe_sGnnP4

The_Kew_Tour

No

Will Galway bate Mayo?

Rayne Wooney

anything to be said for a pre match match thread?

onemorechance

Will the No side pull ahead before thread closes?

Kylo Ren

Peter Flynt wrote: »

Are MUFC going to spend £30m on Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/463921/Manchester-United-step-up-chase-for-Adam-Lallana-and-Luke-Shaw

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Will Galway bate Mayo?

onemorechance wrote: »

Will the No side pull ahead before thread closes?

Tune in next week to find out. Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel!

The_Kew_Tour

No

We are staying up
say we are staying up!!

Kylo Ren

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

We are staying up
say we are staying up!!

I dunno Kew. Nearly 1am. Might hit the hay.

Thatsfootball

Lallana would be a good signing IMO, didn't someone post a few months back about Utd being in advanced talks to sign Lallana in January (didn't happen) or summer?

Also, we should definitely go all out for Shaw. Looks a class act, potential to be first choice for 10-15 years. He might prefer Chelsea, but there's always a chance. The fact that Azpil plays LB now means signing Shaw would cause a problem. LB Shaw/Cole/Azpil RB Azpil/Ivanovic. Unless Chelsea plan on selling a cb and moving Ivanovic in to compete with Terry/Cahill/Luiz.

If he joins Chelsea, Cole probably comes available. Anyone for a free transfer move?

The_Kew_Tour

No

Keno wrote: »

Tune in next week to find out. Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel!

I have William Doziers voice in my head now. Thanks:pac:

2moreMinutes

onemorechance wrote: »

Will the No side pull ahead before thread closes?

We won yesterday so the glory hunters are back in to change their votes to keep him......

BloodBath

No

n32 wrote: »

As some posters alluded to already its very worrying to see how the shape of the squad is developing for next season. At the moment Vidic is definitely gone, Chico looks like he could be gone, Kagawa would be mad not to want to go, Nani is probably off and possibly RVP could be off. Meanwhile CLeverley gets a new deal! What has Moyes been watching this season . Cleverley is not up to standard and should be shown the door. I ve an awful feeling we re going to have clear out of the wrong type this summer and be left with the same rubbish that we ve had all season

Vidic is past it, he's no loss. We need to buy 2 CB's in the summer though. The injury problems this season highlight the need for 5 CB's in the squad. Buy 1 world class one to play alongside Jones and a squad CB.

Chico again is no loss. Easily replaceable squad player. Never proved himself as anything more than an impact sub player. Very likeable guy but a mediocre CF and nowhere near the level of Solskjaer as an impact sub.

Kagawa would be a genuine loss. He deserves a proper run. Probably won't get one.

RVP wouldn't be a huge loss as long as the right players are bought in the summer. We're forced into playing Rooney as number 10 because of him which keeps Kagawa out of the team and Mata and Kagawa out of the number 10 spot.

I'd prefer to see Kagawa kept and RVP sold.

Cleverlys new deal is around 60k a week, probably more than he deserves but not big money by our standards. He's a squad player, not a great one but he helps make up the English numbers in the squad and will be fine alongside better talent in the easier Europa/Champions league and cup games.

It's all down to who is bought in the summer but with the huge money we have available and the prestige of the club it shouldn't be a problem to attract the players that we need. Especially when they are guaranteed first team positions. Something they won't get at a lot of other clubs.

We need to buy 2 CB's, 2 CM's, 1 LB, 1 versatile WB, 1 AM (2 if Kagawa or Nani go) and 1 striker if both RVP and Chico go.

I could see Powell definitely coming back into the team. Possibly Lingard as well. They should be solid squad options.

mitosis

michael999999 wrote: »

Maybe. But as you say, its unusual to sell one of your top players to another rival.

But I won't lose any sleep if it comes back to haunt chelsea!

Maybe Chelsea don't see the club in 6th as a rival? They may be rivals next year or at some other time in the future, but not now.

Leftist

No

in for a rude awakening next sunday. west brom were awful.

KH25

No

Thatsfootball wrote: »

Lallana would be a good signing IMO, didn't someone post a few months back about Utd being in advanced talks to sign Lallana in January (didn't happen) or summer?

Also, we should definitely go all out for Shaw. Looks a class act, potential to be first choice for 10-15 years. He might prefer Chelsea, but there's always a chance. The fact that Azpil plays LB now means signing Shaw would cause a problem. LB Shaw/Cole/Azpil RB Azpil/Ivanovic. Unless Chelsea plan on selling a cb and moving Ivanovic in to compete with Terry/Cahill/Luiz.

If he joins Chelsea, Cole probably comes available. Anyone for a free transfer move?

No. Just no. I would hate to see Cole anywhere near United. On top of that his best days are beyond him. If we're going for an English LB it should be Shaw.

kstand

No

Would be very happy if Lallana and Shaw came in the summer - Lallana is a very talented player on the ball and seems quite versatile as well, can play in a lot of roles.
Hope to God these Alex Song rumours are just that - rumours.

Will I Amnt

No

kstand wrote: »

Would be very happy if Lallana and Shaw came in the summer - Lallana is a very talented player on the ball and seems quite versatile as well, can play in a lot of roles.
Hope to God these Alex Song rumours are just that - rumours.

I'd rather Song than Lallana, far superior player.

kstand

No

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I'd rather Song than Lallana, far superior player.

? Did I just read that correct? He was an average player at Arsenal - and they were more shocked than anyone to Barca showed any interest in him - on top of that he was supposed to be a bad influence in the dressing room. He hasn't got the feet Lallana has isn't fit to lace his boots. Barca realised their mistake and he has only played a handful of times. If the extent of our summer transfer ambitions include Song, the most we can hope for is the consolidation of our current position next season.