Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod Warning: Post #7871

Pro. F

No

Your Airbag wrote: »

No I think someone calling some dumb is looking for an argument. You said I can't understand, know its you can't discuss it sensibly. You have as you like to say "moved the goal posts" as they are two differnt things.

I'm sure you don't want to discuss the obvious contradictions and rudness in your posts, but not because people won't understand but your point is weak.

"I don't think you understand the basics of defending well enough nor have the ability to discuss things in detail with enough accuracy."
"I don't want to discuss it with you because I don't think you are able to carry on a sensible conversation about it."

Same point both times.

Maximus Alexander

zerks wrote: »

BTW,it's the DM reporting it.

That's why people ask for a link. It's a courtesy. Because the majority of people wouldn't be bothered wasting time on it if they knew if was from DM.

Pro. F

No

zerks wrote: »

I made it up for the craic.

Seriously,the whole link/source? thing grinds my gears,why can't people just do a bit of research themselves?

Not picking on you but just saying in general it's an epidemic on here lately.

BTW,it's the DM reporting it.

People judge the reliability of a bit of news based largely on the source. So when you post a bit of news with no source/link then nobody knows if it is likely to be reliable or not.

Your Airbag

Pro. F wrote: »

"I don't think you understand the basics of defending well enough nor have the ability to discuss things in detail with enough accuracy."
"I don't want to discuss it with you because I don't think you are able to carry on a sensible conversation about it."

Same point both times.

Your were rude both times I'll give you that. I don't think you want to discuss it for other reasons i have already mentioned but thats another thing. I and the thread could do without it. I'm done.

Pro. F

No

Your Airbag wrote: »

Your were rude both times I'll give you that. I don't think you want to discuss it for other reasons i have already mentioned but that another thing. I and the thread could do without it. I'm done.

Thank fúck for that.

Your Airbag

kstand wrote: »

Feillaini?

Yes. He is a good player for club and country who many here wanted. Did you see how well he played against UTD season in the 1-0 defeat and 4-4 draw?

Mikeyt086

No

zerks wrote: »

I made it up for the craic.

Seriously,the whole link/source? thing grinds my gears,why can't people just do a bit of research themselves?

Not picking on you but just saying in general it's an epidemic on here lately.

BTW,it's the DM reporting it.

I would be asking the question why can't the person posting the news copy and paste the link of the webpage he was just on, to save everyone else time.

Nalz

No

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

I would be asking the question why can't the person posting the news copy and paste the link of the webpage he was just on, to save everyone else time.

Well fúcking said mate!!!

TheDoc

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

I would be asking the question why can't the person posting the news copy and paste the link of the webpage he was just on, to save everyone else time.

To play devils advocate, Boards.ie absolutely dropped the ball with the legislation that was brought in, and buying into the bull**** form the press sueing people for sharing links.

There is more threads and forums here then this thread, and I know I've gotten varying degrees of moderation when posting articles, posting links, posting some of an article with reference to a link etc.

A lot of forums here, moderators advised "just summarise in your own words what you read".

Like I said playing devils advocate, its all sorted now, and it's totally fine to post links, and even snippets of articles.

Your Airbag

On my trip to the mail I saw this

Moyes has made the most team changes in the epl this season.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552966/David-Moyes-new-Tinkerman-Manchester-United-boss-team-changes-Barclays-Premier-League-season.html


The article is bascially kick him whilst he's down rag style stuff with them labelling him the Tinkerman with "No wonder they are so inconsistent" in the banner.

It does raise a point though. We have had 13 different CM pairings.

Manchester City have made the second most team changes and Crystal Palace have had the most unchanged line-ups so it cant be an excuse but or can it? Citys sqaud is much stronger and is it forced rotation?



Our team has been altered a lot because of injuries, the constant need to chop and change a fairly inconsistent back four, reasonable squad depth and Most importantly Moyes wanting to see and getting to know the players in a match setting.

Pro. F

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TheDoc wrote: »

To play devils advocate, Boards.ie absolutely dropped the ball with the legislation that was brought in, and buying into the bull**** form the press sueing people for sharing links.

There is more threads and forums here then this thread, and I know I've gotten varying degrees of moderation when posting articles, posting links, posting some of an article with reference to a link etc.

A lot of forums here, moderators advised "just summarise in your own words what you read".

Like I said playing devils advocate, its all sorted now, and it's totally fine to post links, and even snippets of articles.

I know the the National Newspapers Ireland said they were going to charge/sue for links online to their articles, but are you saying that you have had moderators on boards telling you to not post links?

TheDoc

Pro. F wrote: »

I know the the National Newspapers Ireland said they were going to charge/sue for links online to their articles, but are you saying that you have had moderators on boards telling you to not post links?

Yup. In their defence it was when the legislation from Sean Sherlock was new and I don't think boards fully understood the implications.

Coupled with the stuff from the papers, I'd imagine they were covering all their bases.

I'm actually pretty sure there is a thread somewhere from Dav with the do's and don't, and if I recall I think it states pasting in articles is a big no no

EDIT**
Found the post from Dav, here is a snippet that's relevant

News Articles:
Re-publishing an article from another website or news paper (and this includes scans of the newspaper) is absolutely 100% breach of copyright unless they have specifically said that they allow the content to be re-published royalty free. 99.9% of the time, this won't be the case. So, if people want to talk about a news story, they cannot copy/paste the whole thing into a thread. If people want to talk about an article somewhere, they should be providing a link back to where it's come from - ultimately this is someone else's work and they should at least get the benefit of being acknowledged.

We have had one newspaper come after us on this already last year - they even conceeded in their letters to us that a re-publishing of a small section of their work was reasonable to them, but entire copying was illegal and in clear breach of not only the law but our own terms and conditions. That concession was prior to Sherlock's Folly, so we're going to have to take a more black and white approach now because there isn't, as far as I know, any clear definition of what's sometimes referred to as "fair use" of content.

Backstreet Moyes

With Mata signed what would people think of the team below as an option. Jones covering and the fullbacks to offer width and Rooney and Mata roaming off RVP.

DDG

Raf Vidic Evans Evra

Jones

Fellaini Carrick

Rooney Mata

RVP

TheDoc

Nuts102 wrote: »

With Mata signed what would people think of the team below as an option. Jones covering and the fullbacks to offer width and Rooney and Mata roaming off RVP.

DDG

Raf Vidic Evans Evra

Jones

Fellaini Carrick

Rooney Mata

RVP

Too narrow for it to be deployed this year I'd say. Also we need to make a call on Jones, we are either going to play him CB, and REALLY play him there, or we will keep using him here there and everywhere and let him turn into another John O Shea. Full of promise young talent who just turns into mediocre squad player. We bought Jones for a premium. Future England captain, future centre back no.1 His time in CM and RB has stunted his growth immensely.

I'd swop Vidic with Jones, put Fellaini in that anchor DM role, and put Cleverly in beside Carrick.

Pro. F

No

TheDoc wrote: »

Yup. In their defence it was when the legislation from Sean Sherlock was new and I don't think boards fully understood the implications.

Coupled with the stuff from the papers, I'd imagine they were covering all their bases.

I'm actually pretty sure there is a thread somewhere from Dav with the do's and don't, and if I recall I think it states pasting in articles is a big no no

EDIT**
Found the post from Dav, here is a snippet that's relevant

Ah, yeah I know about the prohibition on posting entire articles. But I didn't realise any mods had stopped people from posting links.

Still, that is not an issue in this forum. Links to articles are posted every day.

Pro. F

No

Nuts102 wrote: »

With Mata signed what would people think of the team below as an option. Jones covering and the fullbacks to offer width and Rooney and Mata roaming off RVP.

DDG

Raf Vidic Evans Evra

Jones

Fellaini Carrick

Rooney Mata

RVP

Honestly, I think it is make believe stuff that won't work in reality. With that Jones, Fellaini and Carrick in the heart of the midfield the team won't be able to hold onto possession for any sort of decent spells. And with the team having to play without the ball so much then Mata and Rooney will have to track back out wide to help the fullbacks.

UnitedIrishman

No

Nuts102 wrote: »

With Mata signed what would people think of the team below as an option. Jones covering and the fullbacks to offer width and Rooney and Mata roaming off RVP.

DDG

Raf Vidic Evans Evra

Jones

Fellaini Carrick

Rooney Mata

RVP

Problem with the above is that Rooney and Mata would inevitably have to provide the width higher up the field. As much as you would like Raf and Evra to provide the width, someone of that middle 5 is going to have to drop out at different times.

Mind you, given that the mind numbingly boring tactic of giving it out wide is in operation all the time - it might not be a bad idea to have Rooney and Mata coming in off the wings when it seems that's the only way we are able to get them on the ball at the minute.

The more I think of it, the more I'm thinking Carrick might be done soon too. When you look at the midfielders around Europe, all the big sides have midfielders that are comfortable on the ball to the point of being able to beat a man or play one or two touch football all he time. Carrick has been somewhat laboured on the ball this year and our midfield looks incapable at running at the opposition in the same way that the likes of Modric, Lahm and the entire Arsenal midfield have been able to.

I've long been an advocate of defending in midfield with numbers rather than specialist holding midfielders etc. Very few of the top sides have midfielders that just breakers in the middle. Chelsea use a holding midfielder in bigger games with Luiz playing there but that's been Mourinho's style throughout his career. If you have enough intelligent midfielders who are quick enough and good on the ground, then that's enough to beat most sides in midfield.

IamtheWalrus

Your Airbag wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2552966/David-Moyes-new-Tinkerman-Manchester-United-boss-team-changes-Barclays-Premier-League-season.html

The article is bascially kick him whilst he's down rag style stuff

It does raise a point though. We have had 13 different CM pairings.

Mikeyt086

No

Nuts102 wrote: »

With Mata signed what would people think of the team below as an option. Jones covering and the fullbacks to offer width and Rooney and Mata roaming off RVP.

DDG

Raf Vidic Evans Evra

Jones

Fellaini Carrick

Rooney Mata

RVP

While I like the idea of no width, because **** width I'm ****ing sick of width. I don't think you would get the best out of Rooney, and there is very slim chance of seeing that lineup.

Backstreet Moyes

Pro. F wrote: »

Honestly, I think it is make believe stuff that won't work in reality. With that Jones, Fellaini and Carrick in the heart of the midfield the team won't be able to hold onto possession for any sort of decent spells. And with the team having to play without the ball so much then Mata and Rooney will have to track back out wide to help the fullbacks.

The team don't hold onto the ball as it is just look at Rooney last Saturday back in his own half. A solid midfield three offers our stuttering defence more cover and takes out of form wingers out of the side. Mata could drop a little deeper and opt as a deep playmaker with his lovely through balls.

Out of curiosity if you were setting up the team what way would you set it up?

Pro. F

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Nuts102 wrote: »

The team don't hold onto the ball as it is just look at Rooney last Saturday back in his own half. A solid midfield three offers our stuttering defence more cover and takes out of form wingers out of the side. Mata could drop a little deeper and opt as a deep playmaker with his lovely through balls.

The team not holding onto the ball well enough now doesn't result in Rooney having to track back on the wing, in your proposed system it would.

Rooney was back in his own half so much on Saturday because he was playing in central midfield.

Nuts102 wrote: »

Out of curiosity if you were setting up the team what way would you set it up?

If I had to try and find a fix with the current players we have and assuming they're all fit, I'd go with something like:

DDG
Rafa-Jones-Vidic-Evra
Young-Carrick-Cleverley/Fellaini-Mata
Rooney
RvP

If Nani is ever fit then I'd play him on the right. Bring Januzaj in for Mata often enough. And if Rooney or RvP are out then Mata goes to number 10.

It's far from ideal - I wouldn't have bought so many players who don't complement each other - but at least it wouldn't mean Rooney having to defend on the wing which he is completely unsuited to.

Backstreet Moyes

What's peoples opinions on Evans, Jones and Smalling.

Evans has been very good for the past two seasons won't be world class but good enough to be a starting centre back.

Smalling while i see he has potential i just don't think he has improved much. I thought he could be top class but i don't think he will ever be more than a rotation player.

Jones had a horrid start at cb in a United team leaking goals. He showed with Blackburn and when he got a run of games near the end of last season he can be very good. He has the potential to be world class he has a few things to learn but he needs to start getting regular games in his best position. I can;t remember the last time he started a game at cb. I would like to see Jones be given a run of games at cb this season.

Vic Vinegar

Nuts102 wrote: »

Smalling while i see he has potential i just don't think he has improved much. I thought he could be top class but i don't think he will ever be more than a rotation player.

Smalling hasn't really had a consistent run of games as centre back. I think he'll be our best option given some time there.

Vidic is probably on his way out as well as Ferdinand. I think if we sign one top (or top, top) CB we'll be fairly strong there with new guy, Smalling, Jones & Evans.

Kerrydude1981

No

Last nights Pod cast from the Andy Cole,Robbie Fowler and Ray Parlour's Q&A

http://newstalk.ie/player/shows/Off_The_Ball/44703/ray_parlour_andy_cole_and_robbie_fowlerboom

Well worth listening to Cole is on around the 27 minute mark.

J. Marston

No

Nuts102 wrote: »

What's peoples opinions on Evans, Jones and Smalling.

Evans has been very good for the past two seasons won't be world class but good enough to be a starting centre back.

Smalling while i see he has potential i just don't think he has improved much. I thought he could be top class but i don't think he will ever be more than a rotation player.

Jones had a horrid start at cb in a United team leaking goals. He showed with Blackburn and when he got a run of games near the end of last season he can be very good. He has the potential to be world class he has a few things to learn but he needs to start getting regular games in his best position. I can;t remember the last time he started a game at cb. I would like to see Jones be given a run of games at cb this season.

Evans won't amount to much in the long run, half decent squad centre-back will be his peak. Or should be at least.

Smalling could be brilliant. We need to focus on developing him at centre-back. Stop playing him at right back. It's not doing him or the team any good.

The John O Shea-ification of Jones might be already to late to reverse. He's in big danger of becoming a jack of all trades, master of none type of player.

Mikeyt086

No

Nuts102 wrote: »

What's peoples opinions on Evans, Jones and Smalling.

Evans has been very good for the past two seasons won't be world class but good enough to be a starting centre back.

Agree with you here, Evans does a lot well but I'm never totally confident in him. Probably our best CB at the moment though.

Nuts102 wrote: »

Smalling while i see he has potential i just don't think he has improved much. I thought he could be top class but i don't think he will ever be more than a rotation player.

Chris Smalling is a funny one. Sometimes he can have absolutely world class games, but he's a shakey guy, and I don't think he fully believes in himself. His stint at RB damaged his confidence and I'm not sure he can reach a point where he is consistently playing very well.

Nuts102 wrote: »

Jones had a horrid start at cb in a United team leaking goals. He showed with Blackburn and when he got a run of games near the end of last season he can be very good. He has the potential to be world class he has a few things to learn but he needs to start getting regular games in his best position. I can;t remember the last time he started a game at cb. I would like to see Jones be given a run of games at cb this season.

The last time Jones started a game at CB was 5 days ago! :pac: He looked in command against Stoke until he had to go off. I really like him, he's not the finished article yet by any means but he has that ability to dominate from the back. He might be a little bit too eager, in that he gets hurt throwing himself about, but the fact that he is even an option at CM shows how much better than most CB's he is with the ball, and I really would like to see him get a run at CB.

I think one of the 3 needs to step up and secure a spot alongside a summer signing, with the other 2 providing excellent backup/rotation.

Lucas Hood

No

Nuts102 wrote: »

What's peoples opinions on Evans, Jones and Smalling.

Evans has been very good for the past two seasons won't be world class but good enough to be a starting centre back.

Smalling while i see he has potential i just don't think he has improved much. I thought he could be top class but i don't think he will ever be more than a rotation player.

Jones had a horrid start at cb in a United team leaking goals. He showed with Blackburn and when he got a run of games near the end of last season he can be very good. He has the potential to be world class he has a few things to learn but he needs to start getting regular games in his best position. I can;t remember the last time he started a game at cb. I would like to see Jones be given a run of games at cb this season.

I think all 3 are good in their own ways but I wouldn't be confident in any of these combination (Jones/Smalling Evans/Smalling Evans/Jones) in the long term, with Vidic & Rio on their way out we need to get someone else in during the summer.

Pro. F

No

For me, Evans isn't going to be good enough for the top level. He's just too shít in the air and too rash. He could still kick on to the required level, but I doubt he will. He's more than good enough to be 3rd or 4th choice though, so I think he should be kept.

Both Jones and Smalling have all the tools to go on to be top class imo. I think they should be second and third choice behind Vidic.

Liam O

I don't agree with the perception of Evans on here at all, a level above with the ball at his feet and making less and less mistakes. All this without ever really having a consistent partner, sort that out and sky is the limit imo.

GSPfan

No

I knew if I read Pro F's posts long enough I'd eventually agree with one. Ha.

Yeah you've nailed it for me with your last post. I have a serious issue with Evans and I find that he is too much of a whimp in the air. I think he makes a good impression of someone jumping to head a ball but he more or less just closes his eyes and hopes he doesn't get hurt too much most times. Still really like him in the squad. Just don't rate him as high as others for that one reason.

And regarding Smalling ......

Did you see him at CB against Stoke striding out of defense with the ball right down the middle of the pitch? Loved that. He looked nervy as hell though cause it's like he was unsure if he was allowed go or not but if he was played regularly at CB I reckon he would be fantastic when settled.

urabell

Phil Jones is the real deal, can't tell if Smalling has the X factor yet, Evans needs to accept a career as back up or go play for a mid table side. A mid table side that isn't United

GSPfan

No

urabell wrote: »

Phil Jones is the real deal, can't tell if Smalling has the X factor yet, Evans needs to accept a career as back up or go play for a mid table side. A mid table side that isn't United

Evans has always been a back-up so no change for him. He gets loads of games each season. Every United player gets chances and runs in the team if they play well enough. He will happily stay and rotate in and out I'd say. And I'd be delighted with that.

Liam O

urabell wrote: »

Phil Jones is the real deal, can't tell if Smalling has the X factor yet, Evans needs to accept a career as back up or go play for a mid table side. A mid table side that isn't United

But Evans has significantly outperformed both in the last 2 seasons at least. I think Jones has it too though. I think that going forward there should be a consistent partnership and it should be Evans and Jones. Even though Vidic is being played when fit there has to be more consistency in there imo. Evans doesn't have to be elite in the air, he reads the game well and is excellent with the ball. He should be covering a more aggressive CB like Jones or Vidic. There are plenty of DMs fit now so Jones should be moved back and given the reins.

brinty

Liam O wrote: »

But Evans has significantly outperformed both in the last 2 seasons at least. I think Jones has it too though. I think that going forward there should be a consistent partnership and it should be Evans and Jones. Even though Vidic is being played when fit there has to be more consistency in there imo. Evans doesn't have to be elite in the air, he reads the game well and is excellent with the ball. He should be covering a more aggressive CB like Jones or Vidic. There are plenty of DMs fit now so Jones should be moved back and given the reins.

FFS where else has Evans played only CB...

Smalling has been played right left and centre back at times, hardly fair for a younger player

Jones has played fcukin everywhere. Give Jones the same number of games at CB as Evans has had over the past 3 seasons and we'd be selling Evans.

I've said in previous posts the reason the defence is uncertain is because we don't have a settled back 4, its as bad as the 2 at the base of midfield..Thank Christ David De Gea is so good that he is undroppable

At times you'd wonder do they have a lucky dip an hour before kickoff to decide who plays (maybe that's what Rio was suggesting in his criticism re players never knowing)

Next season or this, we need to settle on an eleven and give them a chance to play together and gain an understanding of each other and how they interplay..

Pro. F

No

Liam O wrote: »

But Evans has significantly outperformed both in the last 2 seasons at least. I think Jones has it too though. I think that going forward there should be a consistent partnership and it should be Evans and Jones. Even though Vidic is being played when fit there has to be more consistency in there imo. Evans doesn't have to be elite in the air, he reads the game well and is excellent with the ball. He should be covering a more aggressive CB like Jones or Vidic. There are plenty of DMs fit now so Jones should be moved back and given the reins.

Jones and Smalling have never been given the consistent runs of games and games with the same partner as Evans has. He has been afforded a lot more opportunities than the other two have and he has been a constant liability by being so poor in the air.

All CBs struggle when they are in and out of the side and when the back four isn't settled, even Vidic. Unlike Evans, that's what Jones and Smalling have been dealing with whenever they have played. They look a clear level above him to me.

Liam O

Pro. F wrote: »

Jones and Smalling have never been given the consistent runs of games and games with the same partner as Evans has. He has been afforded a lot more opportunities than the other two have and he has been a constant liability by being so poor in the air.

All CBs struggle when they are in and out of the side and when the back four isn't settled, even Vidic. Unlike Evans, that's what Jones and Smalling have been dealing with whenever they have played. They look a clear level above him to me.

Smalling is getting away with a lot of sub standard play imo. I'm not sure why people rate him as being close to Evans. Evans isn't poor in the air, he's just not great there. His game has everything going for it bar that and he's improving season by season. Smalling has been poor for a while now and coasting by on some impressive early performances in his career at United imo. Always seems unsure of himself. I like him and think he has raw ability but he's not progressed in a while and that's probably why he's being moved around. Not sure how you can be seemingly saying that Evans has had a settled back 4 when he's played as he clearly hasn't?

Pro. F

No

Liam O wrote: »

Smalling is getting away with a lot of sub standard play imo. I'm not sure why people rate him as being close to Evans. Evans isn't poor in the air, he's just not great there. His game has everything going for it bar that and he's improving season by season. Smalling has been poor for a while now and coasting by on some impressive early performances in his career at United imo. Always seems unsure of himself. I like him and think he has raw ability but he's not progressed in a while and that's probably why he's being moved around. Not sure how you can be seemingly saying that Evans has had a settled back 4 when he's played as he clearly hasn't?

You're ignoring how infrequently Smalling has played at CB, how infrequently he has had the opportunity to play in a settled defence and how consistently shíte at heading the ball Evans has been while playing lots of consecutive games with the same defenders around him.

bucketybuck

No

Isn't it funny how apparently Johnny Evans is the only Manchester United defender to play in a settled defense?

You would think that if he had played lots of consecutive games with the same defenders around him that there would be another central defender that had played with him all those games, but no, seemingly not, its just him.

Pro. F

No

bucketybuck wrote: »

Isn't it funny how apparently Johnny Evans is the only Manchester United defender to play in a settled defense?

You would think that if he had played lots of consecutive games with the same defenders around him that there would be another central defender that had played with him all those games, but no, seemingly not, its just him.

Nobody said that Evans was the only central defender to play in a settled defence. Great strawman.

Backstreet Moyes

brinty wrote: »

FFS where else has Evans played only CB...

Smalling has been played right left and centre back at times, hardly fair for a younger player

Jones has played fcukin everywhere. Give Jones the same number of games at CB as Evans has had over the past 3 seasons and we'd be selling Evans.

I've said in previous posts the reason the defence is uncertain is because we don't have a settled back 4, its as bad as the 2 at the base of midfield..Thank Christ David De Gea is so good that he is undroppable

At times you'd wonder do they have a lucky dip an hour before kickoff to decide who plays (maybe that's what Rio was suggesting in his criticism re players never knowing)

Next season or this, we need to settle on an eleven and give them a chance to play together and gain an understanding of each other and how they interplay..

Evans played lb a few times in his younger days. I don't get this Smalling is a younger player he is 11 months younger than Evans hardly a huge difference.

You have no idea if Jones would have performed better than Evans over the past 3 seasons. In his first season he was very poor at cb but improved the end of last season. Also we would never have sold Evans no matter what Jones would have done.

Mars Bar

Confirmed on Twitter that Vidic will leave the club at the end of the season.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Feb/nemanja-vidic-confirms-manchester-united-exit.aspx

Backstreet Moyes

Pro. F wrote: »

You're ignoring how infrequently Smalling has played at CB, how infrequently he has had the opportunity to play in a settled defence and how consistently shíte at heading the ball Evans has been while playing lots of consecutive games with the same defenders around him.

Why has Smalling played so infrequently at cb? Why at 24 has he only 75 appearances at Premier League level. He has been a Conference player, a rotation defender at Fulham and a backup at United. He has potential yes but he is a level below Evans and that's why he is behind him in the pecking order.

Evans is better than Smalling at every aspect of the game except in the air which he has improved massively on to be fair the last two seasons.

Vic Vinegar

Mars Bar wrote: »

Confirmed on Twitter that Vidic will leave the club at the end of the season.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Feb/nemanja-vidic-confirms-manchester-united-exit.aspx

Was expected really

"However, I have decided that I will move on at the end of this season. I want to challenge myself again and try to make the best of myself in the coming years. I'm not considering staying in England as the only club I ever wanted to play for here is Manchester United and I was lucky enough to be part of this club for so many years. I've got a few options to move on and I will choose the right one for me and for my family

- Vidic Quotes from Guardian

Lord TSC

No

Not surprised. I love Vidic and think he's been a great servant but I also think his time was up at United

GSPfan

No

Wow. Vidic is going. Kinda fits in with the current debate about defenders. Rio is next. And Evra.

Massive Summer for United as we all know.

ShaneU

No

Rio will go too, brilliant partnership in their time

Mars Bar

Time to step up Jonesy boy.

J. Marston

No

Vidic, Rio and Evra all leaving in the summer.

Midfield will have to wait.

newballsplease

Andow was right

hufpc8w3adnk65

J. Marston wrote: »

Vidic, Rio and Evra all leaving in the summer.

Midfield will have to wait.

Jesus I'm sad too see him go