Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - 2013/14 Mod Warning: Post #7871

GSPfan

No

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I suspect it's based on Utd not being a reactionary club.

You say that like "reactionary" is a bad thing. Reacting to a mistake is a positive thing.

Paul Tergat

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I suspect it's based on Utd not being a reactionary club.

The precedent we have for this dates back to the late eighties/very early nineties. Times are different now

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

2 years loss of revenue from not qualifying for it would be too much for the glazers, especially if they're bankrolling a summer spending spree

I meant as opposed to 1 year!

ician

No

Paul Tergat wrote: »

The precedent we have for this dates back to the late eighties/very early nineties. Times are different nowThe precedent we have for this dates back to the late eighties/very early nineties. Times are different now

Also the expectations back then were VASTLY different.

bedrock#1

#mufc v @FulhamFC starting XI: De Gea, Rafael, Smalling, Vidic, Evra; Mata, Carrick, Fletcher, Young; Rooney, van Persie

bedrock#1

substitutes: Lindegaard, Ferdinand, Giggs, Valencia, Kagawa, Januzaj, Hernandez.

Pudsy33

No

Almost the perfect team bar Young

ician

No

does that mean Mata is going to be out on the wing?

mobydopy

bedrock#1 wrote: »

substitutes: Lindegaard, Ferdinand, Giggs, Valencia, Kagawa, Januzaj, Hernandez.

whats the formation

IncognitoMan

No

Apart from young its the side most people would have wanted id say. Hopefully now we can actually win this comfortably and take the likes of rvp off later for Arsenal Wednesday

Headshot

No

A real pity to see Young starting, ugh

J. Marston

No

bedrock#1 wrote: »

#mufc v @FulhamFC starting XI: De Gea, Rafael, Smalling, Vidic, Evra; Mata, Carrick, Fletcher, Young; Rooney, van Persie

Mata? Good.

Rooney? Very good.

Van Persie? Great!

Now finish the quartet with Januzaj....













Young ಠ_ಠ

markc91

Anyone here got a star streams account if so could you pm me please

mobydopy

Headshot wrote: »

A real pity to see Young starting, ugh

in all honesty he hasnt been playing that bad recently. links up nicely with evra. hoping the formation is a 4-2-3-1

Will I Amnt

No

Young has probably been our best player over the last 2 games. You can roll your eyes at nearly everybody in that lineup tbh.

Saucy McKetchup

No

Paul Tergat wrote: »

The precedent we have for this dates back to the late eighties/very early nineties. Times are different now



I meant as opposed to 1 year!

We can afford 1 year out of the champions league, 2 and you won't attract any big names to the club, moyes won't be sacked this season or during the summer, if performances continue like they are into next season that's a different story.

Rayne Wooney

Young is there to provide cover for Evra as well as attack

He's so predictable though it just ruins the team, it's either down the wing or cut inside to shoot. It leaves our team out of shape as Mata will be coming inside to try and create while Young is lumping balls into RVP from out wide

Paul Tergat

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

We can afford 1 year out of the champions league, 2 and you won't attract any big names to the club, moyes won't be sacked this season or during the summer, if performances continue like they are into next season that's a different story.

To me, given the squad he inherited, not getting in the top 4 is inexcusable. We aren't getting that and i don't see what he has done, or how we are improving, to warrant a further year

Paul Tergat

Young is there cause Moyes wants at least 1 wide player who will get crosses in.

Giggsy11

ician wrote: »

does that mean Mata is going to be out on the wing?

Never played as winger for ManUtd. He played centrally both games.

ician

No

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Never played as winger for ManUtd. He played centrally both games.

my mistake then, I saw a heat map which showed he spent most of the game on the right.

Giggsy11

Not sure why Young is getting so much stick, it's shame that Januzaj is not starting but Young played well in the last 2 games. At least it's young rather than Valencia.

Giggsy11

ician wrote: »

my mistake then, I saw a heat map which showed he spent most of the game on the right.

Can you post the heat map?

I checked in 2 sites (whoscored.com and soccernet) and both showed he played centrally. You don't even need heatmap, it was there for all to see. Apart from few mins where he drifted to wings he played all game centrally.

TheMilkyPirate

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Not sure why Young is getting so much stick, it's shame that Januzaj is not starting but Young played well in the last 2 games. At least it's young rather than Valencia.

He's one of the fashionable players to mock now ala cleverley & valencia isn't he? If he's not anymore could someone let me know, I want to know whether I can chastise him during the game and still be cool.

bucketybuck

No

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

He's one of the fashionable players to mock now ala cleverley & valencia isn't he?

They aren't mocked because its fashionable, they're mocked because they are shlte.

mrmanunited

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Can you post the heat map?

I checked in 2 sites (whoscored.com and soccernet) and both showed he played centrally. You don't even need heatmap, it was there for all to see. Apart from few mins where he drifted to wings he played all game centrally.

Looks like Young played mostly on the left in the last game according to statzone
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2013/matches/695138/player-stats/18892/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

Giggsy11

mrmanunited wrote: »

Looks like Young played mostly on the left in the last game according to statzone
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszone/8-2013/matches/695138/player-stats/18892/OVERALL_02#tabs-wrapper-anchor

I was talking about Mata..

FutureGuy

I'm quite happy for Young to start tbh

mrmanunited

Giggsy11 wrote: »

I was talking about Mata..

sh1t, sorry. he was totally in the middle and then with the injuries went further up the pitch

mrmanunited

FutureGuy wrote: »

I'm quite happy for Young to start tbh

With Arsenal in a couple of days as well, could make a difference having a few players rested. I was expecting a weaker team today. Maybe Kags and Cleverly for Rooney and Fletcher.

But happy with this team today!

Dicky Pride

No

Spine tingling.

alwayssideways

No

No

Oh what a surprise!

bryangiggsy

No

zorro2566 wrote: »

Oh what a surprise!

Fulham park the bus..then. one attack... Goal. Groundhog day

lordgoat

No

bryangiggsy wrote: »

Fulham park the bus..then. one attack... Goal. Groundhog day

Funny how people see things.

United as predictable as ever attack down the wings and cross it in Fulham clear. Repeat.

Fulham break quickly one good pass goal. This is easy for them and they have set up brilliantly.

No

At what point do united think, hang on we lost again, do we stick with moyes? Will they with him if we go down cos we are in relegation form?

Agueroooo

The ironic part is Meulensteen should probably be sitting in the other dugout beside Moyes destroying Fulham now.

Saucy McKetchup

No

lordgoat wrote: »

Funny how people see things.

United as predictable as ever attack down the wings and cross it in Fulham clear. Repeat.

Fulham break quickly one good pass goal. This is easy for them and they have set up brilliantly.

I'm not a fan of our constant one dimensional wing play in every game but today with the way Fulham are som compact and playing 11 men behind the ball it doesn't look like we have a choice

Saucy McKetchup

No

Agueroooo wrote: »

The ironic part is Meulensteen should probably be sitting in the other dugout beside Moyes destroying Fulham now.

No he shouldn't, he decided to leave of his own accord

lordgoat

No

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

I'm not a fan of our constant one dimensional wing play in every game but today with the way Fulham are som compact and playing 11 men behind the ball it doesn't look like we have a choice

Nonsense, you can cut team apart and draw them out with quick passing and pressing. We have no tempo. Fulham are happy to let us have the ball wide, watch how they track runners and push players wide and down the channels.

Every attack we have had so far has been a cross into the box. Except maybe carricks shot which came from a cleared cross.

I reckon you could organise a team of highly trained gibbons to defend how we play.

tallaghtmick

No

Back to our awesome crossing game I see.

Saucy McKetchup

No

lordgoat wrote: »

Nonsense, you can cut team apart and draw them out with quick passing and pressing. We have no tempo. Fulham are happy to let us have the ball wide, watch how they track runners and push players wide and down the channels.

Every attack we have had so far has been a cross into the box. Except maybe carricks shot which came from a cleared cross.

I reckon you could organise a team of highly trained gibbons to defend how we play.

We are pressing and passing the ball well, Fulham aren't being drawn out hence my reply

8-10

zorro2566 wrote: »

At what point do united think, hang on we lost again, do we stick with moyes? Will they with him if we go down cos we are in relegation form?

40pts by Feb is hardly relegation form. Relax! Plenty more games to go including today's

Quandary

No

This is the most disappointed I have felt all season with our play. If anything we could have experimented against this team but no. We are disgusting to watch now.

We're making Fulham look like fcuking Chelsea.

SherlockWatson

Agueroooo wrote: »

The ironic part is Meulensteen should probably be sitting in the other dugout beside Moyes destroying Fulham now.

I find it ironic when people don't know what irony is.

Too Tough To Die

This season is really affecting my quality of life.

lordgoat

No

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

We are pressing and passing the ball well, Fulham aren't being drawn out hence my reply

Tempo. We are not moving the ball quick enough or accurately enough.

The first ball into the box from Mata that's not across = our best chance.

Hidalgo

Saucy McKetchup wrote: »

I'm not a fan of our constant one dimensional wing play in every game but today with the way Fulham are som compact and playing 11 men behind the ball it doesn't look like we have a choice

I assume the idea behind buying Mata was to offer something different,
i.e the ability to play killer balls between CBs or between a FB and CB for RVP or Rooney.

Saucy McKetchup

No

lordgoat wrote: »

Tempo. We are not moving the ball quick enough or accurately enough.

The first ball into the box from Mata that's not across = our best chance.

Fair point

FutureGuy

The gf, sitting beside me playing flappy bird, just said...

"United are like flappy bird. Sometimes they'll get far but most of the time they just fall on their face"

tallaghtmick

No

Young crossed instead of cutting in on his right ugh **** sake!